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USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

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Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.
 
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Kappa said:
All the gun experts ive heard who've commented on this say its not a particularly hard shot if u have the right equipment.
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Not a particularly hard shot to hit someone who is notorious for figiting, with one bullet from a roof 200 yards away dead center in the jugular?

Can't tell if you're trolling or not.

99% of people couldn't hit a still target 100 yards away with a rifle
 
Aristotle Pickett said:
You're the rasism apologist.
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bluesboy23 said:
You say trust me like you're the leader of the world or something lol.

What youth movement are you referring to?
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The bloke needs to put the bong down. I've seen this shit too many times growing up in Tasmania.

It's not long before we start hearing about chemtrails and otherworldly beings.
 

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BigLefty said:
If their weren't that assumption, there'd be no need for a quota. People would be hired on merit.
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I think you are very white naive to assume that racial minorities have equal opportunity and visibility when it comes to certain fields and industries.

But all that is besides the point. The assumption that Charlie Kirk was making and that you were making that the only way to increase the hiring of racial minorities is to lower the standard is inherently a racist position based around the notion of white supremacy.
 
bluesboy23 said:
Not a particularly hard shot to hit someone who is notorious for figiting, with one bullet from a roof 200 yards away dead center in the jugular?

Can't tell if you're trolling or not.

99% of people couldn't hit a still target 100 yards away with a rifle
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Can't tell if you're trolling, he obviously wasn't aiming for the neck, he would've been aiming for the chest or head and simply didn't account for bullet drop accurately. Just because someone is hit somewhere doesnt mean thats exactly where the shooter was aiming for 😂

When he was hit he was sitting down and when answering a question he isn't going to randomly jump off his seat for no reason.

Again, a modern sniper rifle has no issue hitting a target 100-150 meters away.
 
Kappa said:
Can't tell if you're trolling, he obviously wasn't aiming for the neck, he would've been aiming for the chest or head and simply didn't account for bullet drop accurately. Just because someone is hit somewhere doesnt mean thats exactly where the shooter was aiming for 😂

When he was hit he was sitting down and when answering a question he isn't going to randomly jump off his seat for no reason.

Again, a modern sniper rifle has no issue hitting a target 100-150 meters away.
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Ever shot a rifle at a target before?
 
Kappa said:
Can't tell if you're trolling, he obviously wasn't aiming for the neck, he would've been aiming for the chest or head and simply didn't account for bullet drop accurately. Just because someone is hit somewhere doesnt mean thats exactly where the shooter was aiming for 😂

When he was hit he was sitting down and when answering a question he isn't going to randomly jump off his seat for no reason.

Again, a modern sniper rifle has no issue hitting a target 100-150 meters away.
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The point is, that at the end of the day, when the chickens have come home to roost, a shot to the carotid artery is not recoverable. But every cloud has a silver lining.
 

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I'm having trouble remembering where I was and what I was doing when I got the news that Charlie Kirk was shot, so I guess I'm just gonna say I read it online.
 
Kappa said:
Apparently he was using a high powered sniper rifle.

Which means a hit virtually anywhere on the body would've been almost impossible to survive.
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Doubt it was a “sniper “ rifle. Probably a hunting rifle. At that range you don’t need anything that sophisticated.
 
Rusty Brookes said:
Great call. There's no joy to be taken from this. Sure the irony can be pointed out but at the end of the day, another politically motivated murder has occurred in the US. The place is screwed. Both sides are guilty here.
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One side openly instigates it.

One side has a president who openly told his followers to beat up the opposition and he would pay their legal bills. One side encouraged an insurrection and pardoned the people who committed it.

These things are not the same.
 
With the amount of Kirk supporters demanding people lose their jobs or worse for commenting on his death it's like his message of free speech has been completely lost on them and he's died for nothing.
 

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Killed because he went around to Colleges debating his viewpoint. To all those celebrating, remember no matter how woke you are there is always someone woker ready to call you a fascist.

There were millions of middle age women who voted for Biden in 2020. Then after the Lia Thomas debacle where she waved her erect penis at minors in the swimming change rooms decided they didn't support biological males in their daughters change rooms. Suddenly they were labelled fascist transphobe bigots who deserved to die and kicked out of the democratic party. Trump wins in 2024

The majority of Jewish folks were loyal democrats until the October 7 attacks, then they found out they were fascist bigot racists too

In England's 2nd biggest city, Birmingham, over 50 % of the under 18 population is Muslim. So in 20 years when it is a totally Islamic city the LBGTQ community will also be labelled nazi racist bigot fascists. Ironic since some LBGTQ folks in this thread are calling for all "nazis" to be killed.

The left always eats its own until only the wokest remain
 
Gough said:
With the amount of Kirk supporters demanding people lose their jobs or worse for commenting on his death it's like his message of free speech has been completely lost on them and he's died for nothing.
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