List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

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  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Over Barnett 2.0? Sure

Now I'm not necessarily advocating we take CDT with pick 1 or 2, but calling him Barnett 2.0 is an ignorant take.

In my opinion even calling our current guy Barnett 1.0 is incredibly generous

 

[RanaNaved]

Sumich on radio this morning laughed at the prospect. Quote " I know Lachie and no way he comes to WCE as will only be for money and he has enough".

Please Please WCE list management - Pay what ever to get Neale on list. Worth the price to shut him up.

Sumich said it ain't happening??

You know what that means????






























It's happening!!!!!!!

 

[flamingEMBERS]

He had a monstrous 2018. Would of won the Gary Ayres medal as well if you took out Collingwood's extra game.

Stupid rule that, penalises the top teams that win through.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Pretty relieved to hear Neale isn't considering a move. We have a list spots squeeze and don't need it further complicated.

You're totally right. Adding a two time Brownlow medal winner who still puts up monster numbers compared to our starting midfielders would really complicate things.

I'd hate to see it throw our structure out and potentially force a talented player off the worst team and list of all time.

We'd be a real basket case then.

 

[Chris_6678]

And they said the Oscar Allen situation was a debacle. Got nothing on this

Helps he wasnt our best player somewhat lol/

 

[Chris_6678]

Apparently Jacob Blight had some attitude issues at Richmond. Refusing to play a certain way in a system, perhaps a reason why he was cut despite being good enough to play AFL.

Overheard him at the Perth v Claremont game saying the Tigers have shocking culture in his time there.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Loved Reddo but you don't drop pick 2 for him. Carltons 1st on the other hand would be around the mark.

You do if he's the second best player in the draft

 

[eaglevision]

Overheard him at the Perth v Claremont game saying the Tigers have shocking culture in his time there.

Interesting. MCQ, Baker and Graham will know exactly what went on. If we don’t list him I could only presume it’s due to attitude.

 

[Obeanie1]

Overheard him at the Perth v Claremont game saying the Tigers have shocking culture in his time there.

Take that with a grain of salt.

The Tigers board saying he was the problem not getting along with others.

So prob somewhere in the middle?

 

[flyinghi64]

Until I hear Brad Hardie prattling on about how West Coast are fools for recruiting Lachie Neale I won’t believe it’s happening

Well he did say he saw 2 pigs flying across the screen when talking about it this morning.

 

[MaxHunt]

You do if he's the second best player in the draft

Thats just poor drafting then. You move out the pick or do something else with it.

 

[stinger05]

Not just did Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

make us trade away and entire decade, now he's list clogging players like Chesser out of the side.

I heard from a friend he was in Utah yesterday.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Thats just poor drafting then. You move out the pick or do something else with it.

Assuming you can find decent value, which may well not be the case if a redden equivalent is the second best player.

 

[TY24]

Not just did Tim Kelly make us trade away and entire decade, now he's list clogging players like Chesser out of the side.

I heard from a friend he was in Utah yesterday.

Not sure how TK going on a holiday in his time off is related to Chesser wanting to leave

 

[FatPizza]

Thats just poor drafting then. You move out the pick or do something else with it.

If it's a poor draft, why would you think other teams would be interested in the pick? If no-one else wants it you'd have to make do.

 

[TY24]

Thats just poor drafting then. You move out the pick or do something else with it.

'Taking the 2nd best player with Pick 2 is poor drafting' is certainly a take

 

[TerryFilk]

You do if he's the second best player in the draft

Has there ever been a draft in AFL history where Jack Redden would be top 2? I’m not even sure there’d be one where he’s top 5.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Not just did Tim Kelly make us trade away and entire decade, now he's list clogging players like Chesser out of the side.

I heard from a friend he was in Utah yesterday.

 

[Keys]

Not sure how TK going on a holiday in his time off is related to Chesser wanting to leave

So long as his holiday hasn’t included running across a university rooftop…

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Yeah, it was, I don’t want to draft him. They’re not even close to the same player. The comparison is Luke Jackson and he averages half the hit outs he did at his Jackson’s age. He’s wank in the ruck, inaccurate shot on goal. I just don’t see it, and I’m probably just digging myself a hole and convincing myself more by saying it but if we draft him with 1 or 2 I’ll be livid.

So you're aware of where I stand with him...If we're only taking two picks inside of the top 5 and not getting cute with our draft hand then I'd take Duursma #1 and Sharp #2. I still think CDT is a very interesting prospect though, and wouldn't sook if we somehow ended up with him.

I just find comments like "Barnett 2.0" to be arrogant. It implies that you think you know more than professional, full-time scouts and recruiters, in that you somehow already know he's a complete bust despite the general consensus being that he's a talented and very high ceiling prospect. Some players are ranked highly on their tangible output (Sharp being an example). Other players are ranked highly on their raw potential. That is CDT. You might not like it, but that is just the way it is.

Clearly, the pros are seeing something (or many things) that you are not. For all you know, he might be incredibly driven, have outstanding leadership qualities or other less tangible aspects to his game/persona that recruiters are well aware of and that you are not. Do I profess to know exactly why he's ranked so highly? No I don't, but on the flip side I'm not getting all worked up about how shit he is and calling him a bust before he's even had a shot in a professional environment. You don't know what you don't know. Save your tears for 3-4 years time if he's on our list and has gone backwards. THAT, would be Barnett 2.0.

 

[Dark Sharks]

*Draft and list discussion going on....

Out of nowhere: Tim Kelly made us trade away and entire decade, now he's list clogging players like Chesser out of the side. He also in Utah the campaigner.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

You're totally right. Adding a two time Brownlow medal winner who still puts up monster numbers compared to our starting midfielders would really complicate things.

I'd hate to see it throw our structure out and potentially force a talented player off the worst team and list of all time.

We'd be a real basket case then.

Sure, hopefully we'll announce the delisting of Barnett, Owies and Johnston soon. We did it with Langdon, why not these guys?

 

[Bender_]

*Draft and list discussion going on....

Out of nowhere: Tim Kelly made us trade away and entire decade, now he's list clogging players like Chesser out of the side. He also in Utah the campaigner.

 

[Doashuey]

Pretty relieved to hear Neale Harley Reid isn't considering a move to Hawthorn. We have a list spots salary cap squeeze and don't need it further complicated with an arrogant overrated spud.

This is what this sounds like

 

[txbyhull]

So you're aware of where I stand with him...If we're only taking two picks inside of the top 5 and not getting cute with our draft hand then I'd take Duursma #1 and Sharp #2. I still think CDT is a very interesting prospect though, and wouldn't sook if we somehow ended up with him.

We for the most part agree.

I just find comments like "Barnett 2.0" to be arrogant. It implies that you think you know more than professional, full-time scouts and recruiters, in that you somehow already know he's a complete bust despite the general consensus being that he's a talented and very high ceiling prospect. Some players are ranked highly on their tangible output (Sharp being an example). Other players are ranked highly on their raw potential. That is CDT. You might not like it, but that is just the way it is.

I never claimed to know any more than anyone else. It is simply 'here is number 1 ruck in the class he can be Luke Jackson in the future', is half the ruck that Luke Jackson was, and I end up obviously displeased. If he was actually a good ruck I wouldn't have any issues with it, but the problem is that he isn't dominant and we are in no place to be taking speculative picks. We need talent AND production that while not guaranteed IS bankable. That's Sharp in my eyes.

Clearly, the pros are seeing something (or many things) that you are not. For all you know, he might be incredibly driven, have outstanding leadership qualities or other less tangible aspects to his game/persona that recruiters are well aware of and that you are not.

Like Sharp? Who's such qualities are widely reported and praised? I'm not saying he's not like that, but we would've probably heard about it by now in the draft process when we have about other players.

Do I profess to know exactly why he's ranked so highly? No I don't, but on the flip side I'm not getting all worked up about how shit he is and calling him a bust before he's even had a shot in a professional environment. You don't know what you don't know.

I don't think he's going to be a bad player, but I don't think he is our long term ruck, and frankly he doesn't look like he'll be anyone's ruck any time soon.

Save your tears for 3-4 years time if he's on our list and has gone backwards. THAT, would be Barnett 2.0.

Exactly why I called him Barnett 2.0 in the first place. Best ruck in their class that looks a sure thing. Obviously it is massive hyperbole to describe CDT as Barnett 2.0, CDT will at least be a good KPF in the future. I just don't see #1 ruck in the next 5 years nor do I see #1 pick over at least 5 or 6 other names.