List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Elite Pete]

Has cole even signed ? Heard we offered him a contract but he is a free agent and clubs will be sniffing for depth

I reckon we are waiting for what our assistance package will be.

Cole and Cripps might be moving to the rookie list if we gain extra rookie spots. Allows us to match our NGAs/FS if a bid comes in the main draft or take X amount of draft picks and bring in mature age players.

 

[Barrybran]

To be fair, it's pretty much only the WCE posters on this board who are touting him as a potential #1.

Nobody else is.

Which hopefully works to our advantage. My gut feel says Richmond don't take him but with no confidence.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Not sure too many if any clubs, will be sniffing around Tom Cole TBH.

Clubs don’t want a future captain, B&F winner, CEO and all round good bloke and handsome? Unlikely

 

[bzparkes]

Which hopefully works to our advantage. My gut feel says Richmond don't take him but with no confidence.

Depends on how they view Smillie. They could still do with a defensively minded mid though, as the ones they took last draft seem to be about ball-winning/attacking.

Whilst Sharp's obviously a great clearance mid himself, he's also very good defensively.

 

[Elite Pete]

I'm going to really try and limit replies here.

Our ITK has already said on our board that Starcevich and Ah Chee are gone. Many on our board know of his (the ITK) connections with the club, it just doesn't get discussed, because he's easily identifiable by the club.

He's was also the person to mention late last year that we had a key forward on the hook for this trade period.

Anything about Tunstill or OG Dev?

Tunstill best position at afl level? Would be make a decent hbf?

 

[Jootube]

I'm both of these things, also your dad

Dad, we're worried about you.
Please take your schizophrenia medication

 

[TOA.]

How ? I feel with so many senior players unavailable or having issues (kelly) we were forced to play kids not ready in positions not suited to them.

The biggest trick we missed was not bringing in Parfitt as SSP as soon as sheed went down .

He would have played every game and been top 10 at our BnF if his replicated his wafl form

I'm referring to the dropping of Gross soon after he showed promise and then subbing him and essentially took the wind completely out of his sails. I'm also referring to his managemnet of Allan with things like seemingly forgetting about him for a game he was sub and playing him for 5min, and also constantly playing him sub and he wasnt getting a run either at AFL or WAFL which stunted his time amongst being injured. I'm also referring to the lag in playing Greggo who showed really good signs in the WAFL early and them seemed to lose his way as the season went on but he played the last game and looked really positive - made me think he could definitely have played earlier in the year. Our list is utter tripe and we were playing list cloggers like we were competing for the 8.

 

[Coasters7]

I'm referring to the dropping of Gross soon after he showed promise and then subbing him and essentially took the wind completely out of his sails. I'm also referring to his managemnet of Allan with things like seemingly forgetting about him for a game he was sub and playing him for 5min, and also constantly playing him sub and he wasnt getting a run either at AFL or WAFL which stunted his time amongst being injured. I'm also referring to the lag in playing Greggo who showed really good signs in the WAFL early and them seemed to lose his way as the season went on but he played the last game and looked really positive - made me think he could definitely have played earlier in the year. Our list is utter tripe and we were playing list cloggers like we were competing for the 8.

I think it was fair though. He showed late in the year that he wasn’t up to running games out. Did good things when he was on but always faded badly

 

[Farmer Lister]

We are. I would be surprised if the AFL went along with it though.

What we're asking for is in line with what North got in their second year of assistance so a better comparison imo. Surely the AFL have to go along with it. Unless they're total hypocrites.

...Right?

 

[Hasselhough]

Crows are no longer bottom 4 so they need to pay market value in trades.

Ah chee won't get there otherwise.

Ah chee isn't worth Adelaide 1st pick 15 .
Maybe they split that pick but Adelaide has good home town draft opinions around that pick .

Will be interesting either way

 

[shooshka]

To be fair, it's pretty much only the WCE posters on this board who are touting him as a potential #1.

Nobody else is.

Post 2024 draft he was viewed as one of the top few. ESPN had him #1

Way-too-early AFL Draft Power Rankings: The top 10 in 2025

The 2024 AFL Draft may be over, but the draft watch never stops. Jasper Chellappah shares his way-too-early top 10 Power Rankings for 2024's draft class.

www.espn.com.au

 

[bzparkes]

Post 2024 draft he was viewed as one of the top few. ESPN had him #1

Way-too-early AFL Draft Power Rankings: The top 10 in 2025

The 2024 AFL Draft may be over, but the draft watch never stops. Jasper Chellappah shares his way-too-early top 10 Power Rankings for 2024's draft class.

www.espn.com.au

Yeah but pretty much everyone has him around 5-6 currently.

If he tests well at the combine, I can see him rising up. I imagine the major concerns are around his athleticism more than anything else.

 

[Barrybran]

What we're asking for is in line with what North got in their second year of assistance so a better comparison imo. Surely the AFL have to go along with it. Unless they're total hypocrites.

...Right?

Except it wouldn't be in line with what they've previously done. What we're asking for is more in line with North's second assistance package.

 

[Jootube]

Yeah but pretty much everyone has him around 5-6 currently.

If he tests well at the combine, I can see him rising up. I imagine the major concerns are around his athleticism more than anything else.

This makes a lot of sense to me too.
If Sharp tests well at the combine, he's a no-brainer top 3 pick.
Although, if he tests poorly (especially on the sprint & agility test) - we're back to navel gazing about where to draft him.

 

[bzparkes]

This makes a lot of sense to me too.
If Sharp tests well at the combine, he's a no-brainer top 3 pick.
Although, if he tests poorly (especially on the sprint & agility test) - we're back to navel gazing about where to draft him.

Well, it's always interesting how much clubs seem to overrate athleticism and not pure footballing ability.

It's probably why Geelong's been up for so long, because they bring in players who are footballers first and while being athletic is important to break away on transition, as well as defend, it's useless if you can't win the ball, or maintain possession, to begin with.

 

[Godfather32]

Yeah but pretty much everyone has him around 5-6 currently.

If he tests well at the combine, I can see him rising up. I imagine the major concerns are around his athleticism more than anything else.

Pretty much everyone has him top 3 out of the players that will be available to us

 

[Jootube]

Well, it's always interesting how much clubs seem to overrate athleticism and not pure footballing ability.

It's probably why Geelong's been up for so long, because they bring in players who are footballers first and while being athletic is important to break away on transition, as well as defend, it's useless if you can't win the ball, or maintain possession, to begin with.

I'm not sure I completely agree.
Geelong has taken a heap of non-natural footballers (numerous Irish players) and pure athletes (Blicavs and Holmes both middle distance runners/athletes).

But I'm with you on the athleticism being overrated.
If you look at the top 10 combine results there are surprisingly few All Australians.

Out of 100 or so top 10 results, it's like:
Nic Nat: running vertical jump
Elliot Yeo : agility test
Caleb Daniel: beep test
Josh Kelly: 3km time trial
Andrew Brayshaw/Sam Walsh/Dylan Moore: Yo-Yo test

That's 7 players out of about 100 top 10 results that have gone on to be All-Australians.

Draft Combine - AFL.com.au

View the Draft Combine records of prospective AFL players

www.afl.com.au

 

[bzparkes]

I'm not sure I completely agree.
Geelong has taken a heap of non-natural footballers (numerous Irish players) and pure athletes (Blicavs and Holmes both middle distance runners/athletes).

But I'm with you on the athleticism being overrated.
If you look at the top 10 combine results there are surprisingly few All Australians.

Out of 100 or so top 10 results, it's like:
Nic Nat: running vertical jump
Elliot Yeo : agility test
Caleb Daniel: beep test
Josh Kelly: 3km time trial
Andrew Brayshaw/Sam Walsh/Dylan Moore: Yo-Yo test

That's 7 players out of about 100 top 10 results that have gone on to be All-Australians.

Draft Combine - AFL.com.au

View the Draft Combine records of prospective AFL players

www.afl.com.au

I think the best current example would be Patrick Cripps.

Slow 20m, not that agile but can just get from contest to contest, knows how to get the ball inside and outside and is just an all round smart footballer.

Lachie Neale another. Doesn't have the size advantage that Cripps has but is just elite at knowing where to be to receive the ball, win the ball and usually takes the right options. Fit as a fiddle obviously but I don't think he has any elite athletic attributes that someone like Dangerfield has/had.

 

[eaglevision]

This makes a lot of sense to me too.
If Sharp tests well at the combine, he's a no-brainer top 3 pick.
Although, if he tests poorly (especially on the sprint & agility test) - we're back to navel gazing about where to draft him.

Recruiters will be looking at his 2km time trial more than any of the other testing to show how he can get from contest to contest.

We know he can get first hands to the footy and dish it off even if he tests poorly in agility. Likewise his role won’t be to be an outside receiver requiring him to run at high speed. Different player but Langford for example slow as shit but for his role it really didn’t matter.

 

[Hasselhough]

Yeah but pretty much everyone has him around 5-6 currently.

If he tests well at the combine, I can see him rising up. I imagine the major concerns are around his athleticism more than anything else.

Very much the same as Langford last year . Best performed player of the season but drops due to lack of athletism.

Langford and ashcroft probably the best performers in the top 10 this year .

 

[JackOutback]

Plenty of Larke medalists got at later picks.

OAllen went at #21 and Jack Graham won the year before and wasn't taken until #53.

At least we can get one Larke medallist in… come on down, Dev.

 

[shooshka]

Yeah but pretty much everyone has him around 5-6 currently.

If he tests well at the combine, I can see him rising up. I imagine the major concerns are around his athleticism more than anything else.

Yep his rating has dropped, which is kind of my point (or more so question as to why).

Was rated #1 or thereabouts last year, wins AA, Larke Medal, plays a lot of senior football.

I get the athleticism question, but his CV is probably close to as good from a junior that anyone has seen for a long time.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yep his rating has dropped, which is kind of my point (or more so question as to why).

Was rated #1 or thereabouts last year, wins AA, Larke Medal, plays a lot of senior football.

I get the athleticism question, but his CV is probably close to as good from a junior that anyone has seen for a long time.

Not Victorian like Duursma and CDT?

 

[Monocle]

Not Victorian like Duursma and CDT?

Argh ................. indeed ............... and then there is that.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

To be fair, it's pretty much only the WCE posters on this board who are touting him as a potential #1.

Nobody else is.

He’s been pretty consistently ranked top 3 behind Duursma and then him and CDT.

obviously not counting the 2 or 3 academy kids as well.