List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - Top 10 Candidates

[Stylo]

Haha what a keyboard warrior.
Richmond don’t tell anyone they are drafting them this far out.

We did tell Hotton after his ACL last year to be fair

 

[_RT_]

it wasn’t 1 bad game, it’s 4 in a row, I just singled out the worst one.

His 9th in my top 10, which excludes academy & father/son picks, which makes him about 13th overall, which I think is a fair landing point for the kids based on potential & output across the whole year. Those I have below him haven't really done enough IMO to warrant being ranked above him. Be a bit boring if we all ranked players the same now wouldn't it.

 

[_RT_]

A great piece. Thanks for putting this together. A very honest assessment of each draftee. Based on our needs, which two do you think we’ll select this year.

My top 2 picks for us at this stage are:

1. Cumming
2. Grlj

Right now I'm all in on Cumming with our first pick if Sharp & Duursma are both gone, then depending on Combine results either Greeves or Robey could replace Grlj as my 2nd pick as I've always liked a bit of size through the midfield

 

[Cherki]

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[lalorGOAT]

Other way round mate

Robey is not getting past west coast?

 

[Toadvine]

Haha what a keyboard warrior.
Richmond don’t tell anyone they are drafting them this far out.

I think the context is that we weren't going to let him go undrafted. Not that we'd be using one of our top picks.

Just like Stylo said when we told Horton after he did his knee.

That's if this twitter dude is telling the truth at all. The campaigner can barely construct a sentence.

 

[Morro]

Put a Richmond scarf on him

 

[guruisatiger]

it wasn’t 1 bad game, it’s 4 in a row, I just singled out the worst one.

Are you hitting that ??

 

[Calcium Man]

His 9th in my top 10, which excludes academy & father/son picks, which makes him about 13th overall, which I think is a fair landing point for the kids based on potential & output across the whole year. Those I have below him haven't really done enough IMO to warrant being ranked above him. Be a bit boring if we all ranked players the same now wouldn't it.

If we take out the academy game, what was his 2nd best performance this year that he wowed you with his kicking and taking a game apart?

 

[lalorGOAT]

My top 2 picks for us at this stage are:

1. Cumming
2. Grlj

Right now I'm all in on Cumming with our first pick if Sharp & Duursma are both gone, then depending on Combine results either Greeves or Robey could replace Grlj as my 2nd pick as I've always liked a bit of size through the midfield

I haven't seen much of cumming. What's his style like?

 

[Cherki]

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If we take out the academy game, what was his 2nd best performance this year that he wowed you with his kicking and taking a game apart?

His first 2 games in the champs I thought highlighted the type of player he could be when playing in the right structure that allows his kicking to be utilized best, granted it didn't always come off in those 2 games but his willingness to take on kicks others generally won't makes him a top rated player IMO and part of the reason the kid has been around the top 10 throughout the year despite some inconsistent performances during the season. Drafting is more about a player's potential than how well they play in their draft year. As I said having Lindsay in the 12-15 range is about right for where I feel he'll be drafted based on what I've seen this year.

 

[Wrenny]

Grouse

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[Wrenny]

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I haven't seen much of cumming. What's his style like?

Classy strong quick midfield/forward with a good tank that allows him to cover plenty of ground. Would balance up our midfield group as someone who can win his own footy, but then weave through traffic to get himself clear.

 

[tiger_tough]

My September Top 10 Rankings excluding academy/father son:

1. Dyson Sharp - one of most consistent and proven players in the open pool. Dominated the midfield at the Champs and has played well enough against senior competition to lock him in as the number 1. Sharp accumulates possessions, works hard defensively when not in possession, and can go forward and hit the scoreboard when having a spell from the midfield.
2. Willem Duursma - jack of all trades master of none? Duursma has shown that he can play across all 3 areas of the ground and have an impact. When he played VFL for Casey he showed that he could impact at senior level as a distributor across HB, but the question that needs to be answered is can he step up and become a dominant midfielder at AFL level? Only time will tell. Right now though I have him as the 2nd best available.
3. Sam Cumming - was challenging for my number 1 spot before he got injured such was his impact when he played senior SANFL footy. Strong debut against a red hot Sturt side was followed by a 21 disposal 5 tackles 5 clearances & 3 goal performance which showed that playing against mature bodies isn't going to be a concern for him once drafted. Cumming could start as a high HF initially before being slowly integrated into a midfield rotation where his ability to win his own footy as well as spread from the contest make him a handy addition to a developing midfield unit.
4. Oliver Greeves - another player who has consistently performed at a high level through the midfield not just at CTL, but also in the Champs. Greeves is a big bodied midfielder who can hurt teams in a number of ways, he can create off HB, can roll through the middle and amass possessions or he can go forward and his the scoreboard. His last 2 finals has seen him average 29.5 disposals 10 marks 3 tackles and 3 goals as he has led his Eastern side through to the CTL Grand Final.
5. Sam Grlj - like Cumming, Grlj is another kid who shot up in my rankings once he had an chance to show his wares against senior opposition when he lined up for the Richmond VFL side for a couple of games. Grlj showed playing against mature bodies wasn't an issue as he showed a willingness to put his body on the line when needed, and when he got possession he wasn't afraid to take the game on and try and make things happen. I see him starting as a HB in the same way Sheezel and McKercher did for North where his ball use and run and carry could be used with great effect, before transitioning into the midfield once he got a bit of size on his frame.
6. Sullivan Robey - the bolter of this years draft class has come from nowhere to sit just outside my top 5, with the main reason being that the others have more exposure at the level that leaves less questions to be answered about the ability to perform at a consistent level. That's not to suggest that Robey is just a flash in the pan kid who is having a purple patch at the right time. Reading about the kid he did everything possible to earn his spot in the Eastern line up after being cut from Dandenong previously. So you know the commitment is there to get the best out of himself and in an AFL environment I think he can improve even more than he has this year.
7. Cooper Duff-Tytler - I'm not as keen on CDT as some others are as I just have too many questions about him. Can he be a number 1 ruck long term? Or is he better suited to being a KPF long term? Or is he going to be a ruck/forward hybrid? The kid has shown he can play both roles well enough, but to be picking him as high as some would suggest I'd like to have seen a more definitive answer to the above questions during the year.
8. Mitchell Marsh - Marsh is one of those players who if he was 3-4cm taller would be much higher in my rankings as I think he would be a very good KPF, but given he is listed at 191 currently he is probably a little undersized to be one at AAFL level. That said Marsh could still be a very good pick up for a side as a mid sized marking target who has shown an ability to play on the wing and be a link up option through the middle. Could possibly climb higher if he has had a late year growth spurt to push him closer to the 195cm mark.
9. Josh Lindsay - a damaging ball user when given the chance to get into space, Lindsay could become a weapon for a side as a rebounding HB initially and perhaps a wing long term. Not sure he has the ability to become a genuine centre square midfielder as I've yet to see him truly show he can play that role at U18 level, but someone who can use the ball as well as he can certainly has a role to play in a side moving forward with the way the game is being played.
10. Xavier Taylor - a mid sized defender who can not only shut down an opponent, but can intercept mark and then also provide rebound run and carry that can turn defense into attack quickly with his sub 3 second 20m speed. Taylor is just as comfortable playing on smalls as he is taller opponents so would add versatility to any back line he is added to.

Feel free to give your feedback

 

[eaglevision]

Classy strong quick midfield/forward with a good tank that allows him to cover plenty of ground. Would balance up our midfield group as someone who can win his own footy, but then weave through traffic to get himself clear.

If you don’t mind a foreigner adding to that he’s also very, very good overhead for his size. Has a similar game to Finn O’Sullivan in the way he moves the ball from inside to out but doesn’t have the same kick penetration. My favourite player in the draft and just as high of a ceiling as Duursma, no issues if we took Sharp-Cumming and left Duursma and CDT for you guys.

 

[tiger_tough]

If you don’t mind a foreigner adding to that he’s also very, very good overhead for his size. Has a similar game to Finn O’Sullivan in the way he moves the ball from inside to out but doesn’t have the same kick penetration. My favourite player in the draft and just as high of a ceiling as Duursma, no issues if we took Sharp-Cumming and left Duursma and CDT for you guys.

 

[eaglevision]

Look I’m not a big fan either given our list state but in a draft very bereft of top end talent I can’t see him going past 4 selections.

 

[tiger_tough]

Look I’m not a big fan either given our list state but in a draft very bereft of top end talent I can’t see him going past 4 selections.

Hopefully top 2

 

[eaglevision]

Hopefully top 2

Yeah after your list manager trades pick 1 and 2 to the Bombers for pick 5 and a packet of Twisties.

 

[Calcium Man]

His first 2 games in the champs I thought highlighted the type of player he could be when playing in the right structure that allows his kicking to be utilized best, granted it didn't always come off in those 2 games but his willingness to take on kicks others generally won't makes him a top rated player IMO and part of the reason the kid has been around the top 10 throughout the year despite some inconsistent performances during the season. Drafting is more about a player's potential than how well they play in their draft year. As I said having Lindsay in the 12-15 range is about right for where I feel he'll be drafted based on what I've seen this year.

So his “elite kicking” in his 2nd and 3rd best games of the year often missed targets, but that’s fine because taking on risky kicks is good… because it’s not like screwing up a risky kick ever ends badly, right?

If those were two of his better games, we can safely assume the other seven or so were worse with the ball in hand. Across ~20 CTL or higher games he’s managed 0 goals 11 points, seems like a pattern of inconsistent kicking.

So the track record is inconsistency, with turnovers and wasted chances, and we’re meant to believe that entrusting him to keep taking risky kicks will suddenly flip the percentages?

Eventually your percentages are your percentages. No matter how confident Giannis feels lining up a three, it’s still about a 25% chance of going in — but sure, sometimes he’ll hit 4 in a row.

So putting aside the kicking — what else does he actually bring?

Also Schubert should be in your top 10.

 

[Punt Road Feral]

We did tell Hotton after his ACL last year to be fair

I thought for context we reassured him we’d still consider him for selection post ACL but didn’t actually promise we’d select him.

 

[tiger_tough]

I thought for context we reassured him we’d still consider him for selection post ACL but didn’t actually promise we’d select him.

“I suppose the first few days, he was really flat after doing the knee as you can expect,” Hotton told SEN Breakfast.

“But he got a text or a call from Richmond that night (after the injury), I think, saying, ‘Look, don't worry, we're still going to pick you up’.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

1. WCE - Sharp
2. GC - Uwland (WCE bid matched)
3. WCE - Cumming (Allen Compo)
4. Rich - Duursma

Rich trade 5 to Essendon for 6 + 19

5. Ess - CDT
6. GC - Patterson (Rich bid matched)
7. Rich - Robey
8. Bris - Annable (Ess bid matched)
9. Ess - Lindsay
10. St.K - Greeves
11. Carl - Dean (Ess bid matched)
11. Ess - Marsh
12. Syd - X.Taylor
13. Rich - Grlj (From Dogs for Young + F3)
14. Frem - Farrow
15. GWS - NHH
16. Ade - Phillipou
17. WCE - Dovaston
18. Geel - Schubert
19. Rich - O.Taylor

Simples.