USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

[Gethelred]

Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.

 

[CarnTheScray]

didn't the shooters own family say he turned to the far left in recent years?

I didn't see what Kimmel said on the show, though he did a pretty good reel in the immediate aftermath of the shooting itself. Was pretty respectful towards Kirk i thought.

Their evidence for him being left wing is that his partner is LGBT and someone who knew him in passing said he was “left wing on everything” though that comment has now been revoked. I actually wouldn’t call any of that “evidence.”

 

[schneebly111]

 

[schneebly111]

Good to see The Chaser hasn’t backed down after right wing Australian idiots attacked them:

Local man fired for giving barista his name instead of saying ‘My name isn’t important, I mourn Charlie Kirk’ – The Chaser

"He's basically celebrating political violence" said tabloid writers

chaser.com.au

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Why would they want the companies that follow their directions to be boycotted?

Im not sure how to say it but Trump wants any business or organization against his philosophy to fail.

Disney is still woke in eyes of Trump, he wants it to fail, organizations associated with it to fail.

If people boycott Disney, it goes under and administration goes with its chant of ‘Go Woke, Go Broke’

That’s what I’m trying to convey

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Im not sure how to say it but Trump wants any business or organization against his philosophy to fail.

Disney is still woke in eyes of Trump, he wants it to fail, organizations associated with it to fail.

If people boycott Disney, it goes under and administration goes with its chant of ‘Go Woke, Go Broke’

That’s what I’m trying to convey

Sounds like Disney can't possibly placate Trump then. Yet they're still trying.

 

[the_interloper]

didn't the shooters own family say he turned to the far left in recent years?

I didn't see what Kimmel said on the show, though he did a pretty good reel in the immediate aftermath of the shooting itself. Was pretty respectful towards Kirk i thought.

Yep, they're a Republican family which is one reason i think people thought he was of that leaning. I'm sure pundits are still arguing what side of the aisle the shooter is on even though it seems pretty clear to me.

 

[QuietB]

Did you not see the filth come out of Kimmels mouth that got him kicked off the air? Totally deranged, give me Trump over this POS

Holy shit - there is thinned skinned, and then there is this.

 

[Gough]

I'd encourage you all to have a look at Babet's Twitter, it's...something.

 

[the_interloper]

Holy shit - there is thinned skinned, and then there is this.

Sounds like someone who never actually watched what Kimmel said, maybe saw a report on Sky News or something.

 

[kranky al]

Sounds like Disney can't possibly placate Trump then. Yet they're still trying.

My family all cancelled Disney this morning.

Yarrrrrrr

 

[spinynorman]

Not the fact that political violence is somewhat justified by 25% of young liberals compared to 4% of young conservatives?

World War Two was political violence. Of course it can sometimes be justified.

 

[spinynorman]

Get to the last sentence of the fifth paragraph for "Kirk did not serve in the armed forces."

 

[Johnny Bananas]

World War Two was political violence. Of course it can sometimes be justified.

Not to mention assassinating Hamas figures. Or maybe they're all free speech martyrs too.

 

[Gethelred]

Not the fact that political violence is somewhat justified by 25% of young liberals compared to 4% of young conservatives?

You've been asked now a few times to provide a source for that statistic, so I'm just going to remind you that on the SRP you are required from time to time to support your claims to fact with evidence. A failure or refusal to do so can result in a ban for misinformation.

So - with that in mind - can you please supply the forum with where that statistic was obtained, because the only recent research I could find on the subject detailed a correlation between political violence and populism rather than affiliation.

 

[CM86]

what side of the aisle the shooter is on even though it seems pretty clear to me.

What side was the shooter? Can you explain your clarity?
There's been so much information and misinformation it's hard to keep up with what's what.

The most recent 'information' I've seen repeated is that he was a 'left-wing' progressive with a transgender partner.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Yep, they're a Republican family which is one reason i think people thought he was of that leaning. I'm sure pundits are still arguing what side of the aisle the shooter is on even though it seems pretty clear to me.

I don’t think any one knows political leaning or views.

What seems clear is the people responsible for prosecuting the case are pushing a narrative, one which compelling evidence has yet to be proven.

 

[Present Not Past]

Get to the last sentence of the fifth paragraph for "Kirk did not serve in the armed forces."

Crusaders are back baby.

 

[Romeoh1]

dunno i haven't been following it closely to be honest. Dunno whats fact or fiction.

Initially there was something about the shooter being a republican however was inactive and didn't vote in the last 2 elections, than there was some commentary from the family saying in recent years the shooter moved to the far left side of political views.

Anyways after watching the bit i didn't think Kimmel said anything that was cancel worthy. Wasn't really disrespectful to Kirks death as much as he was just throwing barbs at Trump. Which he does pretty much every show.

Didn’t see the family say anything about him moving to the far left- just that he’d become more political. And in the end it’ll be yet another messed up American with easy access to guns.
Kimmel was absolutely fine- it was more about trump anyway and really just accurately reported how trump had behaved.

 

[Romeoh1]

Good to see The Chaser hasn’t backed down after right wing Australian idiots attacked them:

Local man fired for giving barista his name instead of saying ‘My name isn’t important, I mourn Charlie Kirk’ – The Chaser

"He's basically celebrating political violence" said tabloid writers

chaser.com.au

That’s funny-that’s how absurd America has become- that something so whacky is now pretty well how things are

 

[Nikita Blue]

CALL TO ACTIVISM (@calltoactivism.bsky.social)

🚨NEW: "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" just dropped its first response to ABC, FCC chair, and Disney firing Jimmy Kimmel. Trump ain't sleeping tonight. 🤣 This is a must-watch. 🔥

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[Not Important]

Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com)

According to the New York Times, "The text exchange between Mr. Robinson and his partner was reproduced by prosecutors in the charging document." Reproduced? So no one has seen the actual messages? No screen shots? No time stamps? Also, weren't they on Discord and not SMS? 1/

bsky.app

 

[Not Important]

Charlie Kirk’s Rules of Free Speech

Republicans want to prosecute the left for incendiary words that could lead to violence. They should read Kirk’s own incendiary words first.

www.thebulwark.com

 

[CarnTheScray]

I'd encourage you all to have a look at Babet's Twitter, it's...something.

I’d rather not.

 

[CarnTheScray]

My family all cancelled Disney this morning.

Yarrrrrrr

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I finished Andor just in time.

The only sub I have now is HBO.

 

[Retzlaff]

Thinking of reporting the anti Charlie Kirk sentiments shared by the cast members of Bounce