Autopsy Collingwood Past Trades Circular Discussion

[Seedsfan]

Per other stats I've shown that Shooter is a more rounded player, and that goal difference is completely irrelevant in that context.
You still haven't told us who Ginnvan replaces in our best 23 - because its not Shooter

Ginivan would have played every game this year. Keep your head in the sand as we continue to butcher the list through horror trades

 

[No SPIN]

Ginivan would have played every game this year. Keep your head in the sand as we continue to butcher the list through horror trades

replacing whom in our best 23??? make your case.

 

[Seedsfan]

replacing whom??? make you case.

There would be at least 6 players he would be ahead of FMD look at who actually got a game Hayes, Steele, Allen, Sullivan, Lipinski and even Schultz we need to be able to score. Against the good sides we can’t do that. It’s all well and good to beat up on shit teams

 

[No SPIN]

There would be at least 6 players he would be ahead of FMD look at who actually got a game Hayes, Steele, Allen, Sullivan, Lipinski and even Schultz we need to be able to score. Against the good sides we can’t do that. It’s all well and good to beat up on shit teams

only Lipinski and Schultz are best 23 - and Ginnivan is not replacing either of them.
The others are not best 23 - so Ginnivan would not make our best 23 nor played the whole season as you insist.
He'd have played in the VFL for much of this season with is mates Hayes, Steele, Allen, Sullivan.

I think I've made my point.

 

[Seedsfan]

only Lipinski and Schultz are best 23 - and Ginnivan is not replacing either of them.
The others are not best 23 - so Ginnivan would not make our best 23. He'd have played in the VFL for much of this season with is mates Hayes, Steele, Allen, Sullivan.

I think I've made my point.

He would not have played VFL for much of the year. Possibly the dumbest post ever. Sullivan also played a 14 of a possible 16 games before he did his knee

As to not getting picked over Lipinski he did in his last game at the club

To try and argue that a 30 goal a year small forward is no good and would play VFL shows you bias

 

[No SPIN]

He would not have played VFL for much of the year. Possibly the dumbest post ever. Sullivan also played a 14 of a possible 16 games before he did his knee

As to not getting picked over Lipinski he did in his last game at the club

To try and argue that a 30 goal a year small forward is no good and would play VFL shows you bias

you said post #51 above
"Ginivan would have played every game this year."

Given you concede per bolded that was not going to happen - you're damned by your own words.

 

[Seedsfan]

you said post #51 above
"Ginivan would have played every game this year."

Given you concede per bolded that was not going to happen - you're damned by your own words.

He would have played every game I was clearly disagreeing with your statement that “he would have played much of the year in the VFL” it’s the single stupidest post on this forum

 

[No SPIN]

He would have played every game I was clearly disagreeing with your statement that “he would have played much of the year in the VFL” it’s the single stupidest post on this forum

Like I said damned by your own words - you failed to make a case including by offering 4 VFL names as players Ginnivan could replace, knowing the 2 you offered in our best 23 were a stretch.

It wasn't even a serious debate in the end.

 

[Seedsfan]

Like I said damned by your own words - you failed to make a case including by offering 4 VFL names as players Ginnivan could replace, knowing the 2 you offered in our best 23 were a stretch.

It wasn't even a serious debate in the end.

It never was going to be when you think that he was going to play the majority of the year in the VFL. It shows you strong bias

Your fascination with best 23 we never lined up without one of the players that I said he would play in front of this year.

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

Yeah remind me what is the objective of the game? To out score your opponents.

Ginni has a greater goal, disposal and score involvements per game average over his career than Schultz. Literally the only statistical category Schultz is ahead of him is tackles per game.

Schultz is already starting to pick up a lot of soft tissue injuries and you don’t see too many pressure forwards playing deep into their 30s

As far as I’m concerned Ginni sealed his own fate with us.
That aside both Hawks and Pies played in a Preliminary Final this year so you’d have to say both trades worked for both “teams”.
Every thing else is pure conjecture and not worth the worry IMO.

 

[Seedsfan]

As far as I’m concerned Ginni sealed his own fate with us.
That aside both Hawks and Pies played in a Preliminary Final this year so you’d have to say both trades worked for both “teams”.
Every thing else is pure conjecture and not worth the worry IMO.

We got a shit deal for Ginni leaving in comparison to what we paid for Schultz

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

We got a shit deal for Ginni leaving in comparison to what we paid for Schultz

We got what we thought Ginnivan was worth. We paid what we thought Schultz was worth. I’m comfortable with both outcomes.

 

[Seedsfan]

We got what we thought Ginnivan was worth. We paid what we thought Schultz was worth. I’m comfortable with both outcomes.

Then that shows the ineptitude of the people handling the list management

 

[Spuddd]

We got a shit deal for Ginni leaving in comparison to what we paid for Schultz

Its the intangibles that you cant measure, but he was hardly a club house favourite

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

Then that shows the ineptitude of the people handling the list management

Was just suggesting that both players and both clubs seem happy and both achieved similar team success this year so you could say both list management teams got value. I’ll leave it that. All good.

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Ginnivan wouldn't have played 1 game this year.
Publicly troll the coach by wearing silks after the 23 win...
Fly was never going to give him another game.
He's a good football player, albeit, as useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle in gf23.
But a self promotion tool