F1 2025 Previous Rounds - Vol. 2

[Eaglemaniac]

Oscar shitting the bed big time at the moment.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

How much more room does Oscar need to leave Hulkenberg?

As I said above, it was a high-risk, high-reward move but it would have paid off if Alonso wasn't there.

Well, at least more space than this.



Whether Alonso was there or not, I'm not sure what's expected of Hulkenberg in that situation without knowing what Piastri was going to do. You can call it high risk, high reward if you want, I'll stick with the other assessment of dopey given the worst position he probably would have come out of that Turn 2 having been on the inside was in third.

 

[Barrybran]

Well, at least more space than this.

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Whether Alonso was there or not, I'm not sure what's expected of Hulkenberg in that situation without knowing what Piastri was going to do. You can call it high risk, high reward if you want, I'll stick with the other assessment of dopey given the worst position he probably would have come out of that Turn 2 having been on the inside was in third.

Mate... look at Alonso in that image. Don't get me wrong, you have to go for gaps. But let's not pin this one on Oscar when he's not the only driver trying to take an opportunistic move.

There's a big difference between risky and dopey. Dopey is Lance Stroll cannoning into Esteban Ocon.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Questions should be asked about how much stronger RH (well Max) have been since Horner was given the arse. Can't be all down to upgrades.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Mate... look at Alonso in that image. Don't get me wrong, you have to go for gaps. But let's not pin this one on Oscar when he's not the only driver trying to take an opportunistic move.

There's a big difference between risky and dopey. Dopey is Lance Stroll cannoning into Esteban Ocon.

The only reason I'm pinning it on Oscar is because he's the one changing his line mid-corner and driver etiquette rules place an emphasis behaving in a predictable manner. Yes, it is well down the dopeyness scale for most incidents that end up being discussed on the forum.

I know I've made 4 posts on the subject now but overall I'm not that passionate about it, rather I am just a little surprised to find other people do not see it the same way I do, that's all.

 

[NSWCROW]

This has all the feels of the 1998 Grand Final

You mean 1997 prelim

 

[banzai]

Nah. Max isnt winning the WDC (mathematically too hard) so all Oscar has to do is finish every race ahead of Norris and he will win it.

Max is actually into $3.70 now to win the championship. Lando is 3.8, oscar 1.88.

This is on betfair, his odds hit 400/1 in August.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Max is actually into $3.70 now to win the championship. Lando is 3.8, oscar 1.88.

This is on betfair, his odds hit 400/1 in August.

Thats reasonable value for Lando.

Oscar looks no where near it at the moment. Desperately needs 1 result over Lando and quickly or this WDC is over.

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

Oscar is having a rough patch for sure. Needs to have a clean race and get on the podium.

 

[Black_White]

It’s a pity that McLaren have decided to knobble Oscars car.
Year over.

 

[Cromulant]

Thats reasonable value for Lando.

Oscar looks no where near it at the moment. Desperately needs 1 result over Lando and quickly or this WDC is over.

Lando had a rough patch not too long ago

 

[Duck Farmer]

Well, at least more space than this.

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Whether Alonso was there or not, I'm not sure what's expected of Hulkenberg in that situation without knowing what Piastri was going to do. You can call it high risk, high reward if you want, I'll stick with the other assessment of dopey given the worst position he probably would have come out of that Turn 2 having been on the inside was in third.

The extra space on the inside due to the pit lane entry leading up to T1 encourages moves like the one Alonso did which squeezed Hulkenberg. Very risky for Oscar to cut back inside under those circumstances. If I was Lando I'd be pissed as this was worse than what he did to Oscar in Singapore.

 

[ptrg]

Ultimate will be if Lando wipes Max and himself out kamikazee style at turn 1

 

[satty]

Just gotta let Oscar know the whole of Australia is behind him. We have waited so long for an Aussie champion, just bring it home.

 

[Gasometer]

Just gotta let Oscar know the whole of Australia is behind him. We have waited so long for an Aussie champion, just bring it home.

I was 12 in 1980. It has been longer than a North Brownlow!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There's no guarantee in 6th Oscar makes it around turn 1 here. Right in the middle where a **** up in the lead he could run into someone or a cowboy from behind cannonballs in.

Just needs to be careful in the first few corners. I do think he will get up to 3rd or 4th at worst if he can stay out of trouble.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Max is actually into $3.70 now to win the championship. Lando is 3.8, oscar 1.88.

This is on betfair, his odds hit 400/1 in August.

While oscar and lando are both making errors they aren't having reliability issues and realistically Max will need Oscar or lando to blow up an engine or two in the run home to come from this far back and win. He may get within 20 points and make the last round interesting but he isnt winning it imo.

 

[banzai]

While oscar and lando are both making errors they aren't having reliability issues and realistically Max will need Oscar or lando to blow up an engine or two in the run home to come from this far back and win. He may get within 20 points and make the last round interesting but he isnt winning it imo.

A lot depends on this race for me, if Max is able to win dominantly and drive away from Lando, you would have to atleast consider the possibility of him winning out. A win tomorrow and he's only 26 behind Lando (assuming Lando 2nd). Oscars form has dropped off badly, I'm not confident he can hold on anymore.

If Lando wins tomorrow, I couldn't see Max winning the championship however.

 

[RWnBluey]

Max might catch Norris but hes not catching Oscar without dnfs. So long as Oscar finishes in the top 4 or so at most races Max wont catch him and if hes ahead of lando he will keep the margin he needs.

How can you be so certain given all the evidence that is staring us in the face? If Oscar finishes top 4 (3rd/4th) in the remaining races Max can absolutely win this. That Red Bull is a level above the McLaren’s now and it’s far too late in the season for them to do anything about it from a development perspective.

Oscar desperately needs a win somewhere. Of the remaining races that opportunity is likely to be in Qatar. All three contenders are also on their last ICE before incurring a 10 place grid penalty so anything could happen there.

This race tomorrow will be telling and, make no mistake, if Max has a dominant win here the championship is his for the taking IMO.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Can you stfu about it?

The answer is a resounding, "NO!"

 

[satty]

The fact that the McLaren's have lost the single lap advantage, makes getting pole at any of the future circuits very tough.

It's become apparent that stopping max after he get pole is extremely difficult, so there is a very good chance max is going to outscore the McLaren drivers in each of the remaining races.

The key for Oscar is to be second or steal an improbable race win.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Everybody writing off Oscar already (whilst still leading).

He still outqualified Norris last round and was unlucky with a bump from his teammate. I feel he only needs to out qualify Norris again (in an upcoming race) and have a normal/clean race to finish ahead, which will not only extend his lead but I reckon settle Piastri down for the remaining races (and the deeper it gets, the more desperate Norris will have to get). The battle is definately on, but I'm still backing him in.

 

[Gasometer]

One thing’s for sure and that’s my Math skills are just as bad as today as they were in the 80’s.

 

[banzai]

Everybody writing off Oscar already (whilst still leading).

He still outqualified Norris last round and was unlucky with a bump from his teammate. I feel he only needs to out qualify Norris again (in an upcoming race) and have a normal/clean race to finish ahead, which will not only extend his lead but I reckon settle Piastri down for the remaining races (and the deeper it gets, the more desperate Norris will have to get). The battle is definately on, but I'm still backing him in.

I think people are more worried about Max than Lando. But a lot depends on tonight. I mean the front 2 could collide and the championship is virtually all over.

At the same time if they finish 1-2 and Oscar has a shocker, he nearly becomes 3rd fav for the title.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

I think people are more worried about Max than Lando. But a lot depends on tonight. I mean the front 2 could collide and the championship is virtually all over.

At the same time if they finish 1-2 and Oscar has a shocker, he nearly becomes 3rd fav for the title.

Yeah, I get it.

Max is in better form and is absolutely ruthless - knows how to win.

But with only 6 races (and a sprint) left and still 55 points in front of Max- Oscar is still well and truly in the box seat. He's had some uncharateristic blunders (and some bad luck) lately but he only needs a couple of boring races where he just does what he normally does (to finish top 2) and Max will either need to win every single race or will just run out of runway.

Obviously it's getting close and nerve wracking but writing Oscar off (as some are doing) seems a bit too early.