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Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVIII

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I would like to note that Hawthorn didn't bring in anyone this trade period, after all that posturing about being aggressive and making their footy club better.

Sam Mitchell after Geelong dismantled his team in the pre-lim:

“The game doesn’t stand still for anyone,” Mitchell said.

If we play exactly as well as we did this year, we probably won’t make the eight next year.

“We’ve got work to do, every club. Fifteen clubs now - finished. Everyone’s getting to work on how to improve for next season.

“We start back at ground zero and we’re gonna have plenty of work to do like every other club.”

Could that include trading for Essendon skipper Zach Merrett?

He already met with Mitchell and while the Bombers captain is reportedly keen on the move, Essendon has been adamant it won’t be trading him despite the situation growing increasingly ugly.

When one reporter posed to Mitchell that a loss like the one to Geelong on Friday night summed up why they would go after a player of Merrett’s calibre, the Hawks coach said a lot without saying much at all.

“I feel like you made a pretty good argument just there,” he simply replied.

While Mitchell clearly didn’t want to go into too much detail when it came to Merrett, he did promise the Hawks would once again be “aggressive” in trying to improve their list ahead of next season.

“I don’t think it’s any surprise that we’re going to be aggressive in trying to make our list the best it can be and I think every club is doing that,” Mitchell said.

“So I’m not ready for this yet but free agency, the draft, trade period — they’re all ways we can improve our list and we’re going to need to do that. Everyone is.

Even if we’re the same as we are this year, that’s not going to even make the eight next year. The game goes forward every year.

“We’ve got progress to make and I’m enormously proud of the whole journey. Some of that has been aggressive development, some of it has been aggressive free agency.

“But the aim isn’t to sit here in the preliminary final week as a loser and say we’ve achieved.

“I’ve got a level of pride but I also have a level of desperation to go a couple of steps further than this.”


I hope you're right Sammy-boy, you're not even the same, you've gone backwards! Keep up that aggressive trading you flog.
 
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Just to add to the LOLs, the Hawthorne trade thread has had 57 pages since the closing of the trade period, in a period they didn't trade in a single player.

Glorious.
 

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Hawthorns trade period can be summed up for them like this.

Gained 22, a future 3rd and a future fourth.

For this haul they gave up

Slid from pick 9 to 10, Worpel, Jiath, Serong, pick 31 and a future fourth.
Oof! No wonder the fans here are melting. They really didn’t get this trade period right at all.
 
Hawthorns trade period can be summed up for them like this.

Gained 22, a future 3rd and a future fourth.

For this haul they gave up

Slid from pick 9 to 10, Worpel, Jiath, Serong, pick 31 and a future fourth.
Why are you being so critical? SEN gave it a B- even though their list is weaker than it was at the end of the season now 🤔


SUMMARY: Missed out on their No.1 target in Zach Merrett, but they couldn’t have fired a better shot to make it happen. Jiath has ability but was out of the best 22 late in the year, Worpel costs them a bit of depth but opens the door for Henry Hustwaite once Essendon decided not to take him and they landed an extra first-round pick in a swap with Carlton.
 
Why are you being so critical? SEN gave it a B- even though their list is weaker than it was at the end of the season now 🤔


SUMMARY: Missed out on their No.1 target in Zach Merrett, but they couldn’t have fired a better shot to make it happen. Jiath has ability but was out of the best 22 late in the year, Worpel costs them a bit of depth but opens the door for Henry Hustwaite once Essendon decided not to take him and they landed an extra first-round pick in a swap with Carlton.
B is above average! That’s ok. All we really did was bring in Fiorini.
 
B is above average! That’s ok. All we really did was bring in Fiorini.
Was heavy sarcasm with my post.

This is what they said for Freo. They brought in a defender entering "the prime of his career" but then questions if they've done enough to improve their list and gives them a C. Odd

IN: Judd McVee (Melbourne), Picks 20, 23, 47, 50, 69, 103
OUT: Will Brodie (Port Adelaide), Liam Reidy (Carlton), Picks 12, 23 (on-traded), 33, 44, 50 (on-traded), 53, 71
DRAFT HAND: 20, 47, 69, 90, 103, 108
SUMMARY: Managed to lure a young defender home just as he enters the prime of his career, while helping a couple of depth players find what are likely to be more AFL opportunities. The question is whether they have done enough to take the next step from finals to premiership contenders?
GRADE: C
 
Hawthorns trade period can be summed up for them like this.

Gained 22, a future 3rd and a future fourth.

For this haul they gave up

Slid from pick 9 to 10, Worpel, Jiath, Serong, pick 31 and a future fourth.

Did really follow much so this is a hilarious surprise as I thought Hawkes had automatically owned the trade period cause you know, Sammy....
 

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Why are you being so critical? SEN gave it a B- even though their list is weaker than it was at the end of the season now 🤔


SUMMARY: Missed out on their No.1 target in Zach Merrett, but they couldn’t have fired a better shot to make it happen. Jiath has ability but was out of the best 22 late in the year, Worpel costs them a bit of depth but opens the door for Henry Hustwaite once Essendon decided not to take him and they landed an extra first-round pick in a swap with Carlton.
Yeah that review was bewildering. It was never that they 'couldn't' have done better, it was that they didn't.
That was McKenzie's choice.
Hasks fans are grieving. When the dust settles, the supporters will start to grumble the he should be sacked. How long the delusion continues is where the speculation should be.
 
Not sure about current day coaches coaching the origin teams, they have too much skin in the game. Scott probably protects his flock and cooks whoever he's playing early...behind that calm exterior is a steely guy who does whatever it takes to bend rules, just gotta look at the shenanigans with team selection each week.

Perfect for a Simpson or Horse (not long out) or a Buckley type (next in line)

Keep the current crew away
 
Not sure about current day coaches coaching the origin teams, they have too much skin in the game. Scott probably protects his flock and cooks whoever he's playing early...behind that calm exterior is a steely guy who does whatever it takes to bend rules, just gotta look at the shenanigans with team selection each week.

Perfect for a Simpson or Horse (not long out) or a Buckley type (next in line)

Keep the current crew away
Nothing more than an exhibition game IMO. Nobody wants to get injured in this.

Became irrelevant when VFL became AFL.
 

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