Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3
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Still keen to try to get Emmett with our next, although North has apparently done a bit of work on him too. If not him, another tall - maybe Thredgold.
Should look for a smaller defender/ half back with rookie pick. I think Felix Kneipp was flagged a while back?
Hopefully Mellor can then slip through to end up cat B rookie.
Rongdit a candidate for VFL list - we have taken our quota of ACLs for this draft already.
Should look for a smaller defender/ half back with rookie pick. I think Felix Kneipp was flagged a while back?
Hopefully Mellor can then slip through to end up cat B rookie.
Rongdit a candidate for VFL list - we have taken our quota of ACLs for this draft already.
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Ok, I took a punt around mid year, but as you suggest, they may decide that caution is the better judgement.
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Best could find was a report saying the injury was " last weekend" dated 11th July.
Mini-preseason around April with some limited minutes May-June maybe?
My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
I suspect that's a pessimistic outlook.My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
Better than recruiting someone we really didn't want or is surplus to requirements. Cal Twomey's
At least we won’t be waiting all night to hear our next pick read out. And there still should be some reasonable talent to choose from albeit that this draft is pretty uninspiring.
Pessemistic maybe, but I think it's easy to see drafts picks through rose coloured glasses more often than not. We (Geelong fans) tend to belive we've found a unicorn every year just because we had an extremely good run of things at the back end of the draft for a period of time in the past.
My gut feeling is our KPD stocks will take a hit over the coming years. SDK is likely to get more time up the ground given our ruck stocks are bare bones, Henry may be suspect for durability given his foot, and throw Kolo in that basket too. I think we're going to be left thin on the ground in that area compared to what we're accustomed to.
Extremely pessimistic outlook. Taj Hotton was able to play 3 vfl and 7 afl games this year after doing his ACL in his draft year. Much easier to break into the tigers side obviously but it’s encouraging. Harley will also have Baz to help and by all reports he’s got an elite work ethic. Curious to know who you would have wanted us to take that would have made a big difference for us? I’m more than happy for them taking someone that they think has the highest upside.My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
Mind you, his highlights tape had me thinking, "Holy shit!"
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My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
First round draft picks sign a 3yr deal straight up - so unless he's traded, he'll be in the hoops until at least 2028 before he's played a game
While coming off an ACL isn't ideal, he could easily be in a position to play some VFL from June/July next year and build into the pre-season when he'd be ready to hit the ground running
There's zero reason that without any set backs he wouldn't be in a position to play some senior football in 2027 - unless they're really raw or in need of development, a good number of our early draftees play senior football in their first year or in this case, likely second year to get a taste of things
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I think it's only top 20 that get 3 year deals.
But yes if his recovery goes to plan he'll be at the same point as any other draftee for 2027. It's just his first year that will be compromised and we don't put expectations on guys in their first year. Even guns like Holmes, O'Sullivan and Dempsey had very little impact in their first year so it's pretty pointless worrying about that.
I think maybe with Tanner Bruin coming back into the side, they thought that kind of made it easier to take the delay on Barker starting in exchange for a chance at him being a very high end player.
I am hoping for Thredgold for the next pick - will take a year or two to develop but will be another solid citizen in our pipeline of good versatile tall backs.
That would then be 2 Sturt team-mates to come over together, which can’t be a bad thing.
I am hoping for Thredgold for the next pick - will take a year or two to develop but will be another solid citizen in our pipeline of good versatile tall backs.
That would then be 2 Sturt team-mates to come over together, which can’t be a bad thing.
All that matters is the end product.My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
Next year is nothing when compared to the entirety of a career.
I don’t know how good/bad he will end up… but I’d take a gun who misses his first year due to an ACL over a spud/or meh level player that is ready to roll from the get-go every day of the week.
If Wells thinks he is the best player available, then fair enough.
Like all draftees… time will tell.
With there being currently 8 picks til our next selection, my preferences in order are:
1. Phillipou
2. Ludowyke
3. Thredgold
4. Onley
5. Kondogiannis
6. Greeves
7. Blamires
8. Swadling
Rookie hunter Holmes or Mellor
1. Phillipou
2. Ludowyke
3. Thredgold
4. Onley
5. Kondogiannis
6. Greeves
7. Blamires
8. Swadling
Rookie hunter Holmes or Mellor
That list goes to show how shallow this draft is. Hardly an accurate kick between them.
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Clubs using picks in the 20s/30s to match bids for Academy players.
Not my list but has me confident that there still will be quality available at our pick
That's ridiculous.My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
The only way he's a 2029 prospect is if he's not ready until then anyway. The knee won't make any difference.
He's pretty solidly built for his age already, and next year will be an opportunity to put on more upper body muscle in the gym while he rehabs his knee, aiming for some VFL time at the end of the season.
Then with a full year in the professional environment, another year of physical and mental maturity, plus the 2027 preseason under his belt, there's no reason he wouldn't be able have an impact at AFL level in 2027. If he's good enough.
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Yeah...Nah... I don't agree.My issue with our pick isn't the kid himself or his ability. It's drafting in a player to spend a year in rehab.
If he manages to rehab his knee in an expected timeline, he MIGHT get a look at a game in the VFL late season (but I expect the club will put him in cotton wool).
He then has to get through the 2027 preseason without injury, and play some VFL that year.
If he manages that and keeps his spot on the list, at best he gets a look at AFL level in 2028 as a fringe player. Everything would need to go above expectations for that to happen, so I'd suggest more likely 2029, if at all.
I think we have some holes to fill before that with player retirements which we'll do through trade period, so he may be overlooked in that scenario also.
Time will tell I guess
I don't care too much if needs to be rehabbed... as it wouldn't have mattered if he was good to go or anyone else who was selected playing through the midfield for that matter.
There isn't a spot this year in our starting senior 18 slash 23 selected team.
With our list as it is.... Needing Bruhn and Worpel to be added along with Clark getting more midfield time.
The selection was always gonna be a longer term prospect in what was dubbed a shallow draft.
And what better way is it than to get a higher ranked prospect that has to sit out 6 months.
The way i see it Wells & Co have done this dance for over 20 years with results that is the envy of the other 17 teams/clubs.
They have the list in a great position, unfortunately injuries have hindered the process by a year or two, but thats footy.
Another thing that many don't realise is what they have planned for the 2026 Free Agency/trade/draft period or/and the 2027 period.
Without that knowledge.
We are playing cricket in the nets blind... well, with one eye closed at least.
So. I'll stick with Wells/Mack & Co in the acquisition of talent.
As they know talent more than 99% of the BF Posters (Sorry Guys) on here. Including me. Even though i watch a lot either in person or via the tube. Means didly squat in the end when selections are made.
For your take on the young fella.
I think you are miles off with too much doomsday the sky is falling Y2K stuff.
6 months ago he was considered a top 2 or 3 wingman in the country.
A Captain with Leadership and a Toughness along with a great Footy IQ.
Those qualities you don't lose whilst rehabbing.
Anyways... This is BigFooty and everyone has a say and an opinion.
You've had yours and i've had mine and we all move along hoping for the best outcome.
Coz in the end we all want success.
Club Team Players Members Supporters alike.
Cheers!!
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Well that's just silly - should just be first round selections, regardless of how long the first round goes for
We started with pick 19 and if taken at that pick he gets a 3yr deal, but due to 7 academy and F&S bids, our pick gets pushed back and that 3yr guarantee is gone
It would be even worse if a team had pick 20, used it to bid on a player with that bid matched meaning the matched player gets a 3yr deal, but the team who had pick 20 now has pick 21 and their selected player only gets a guaranteed 2yr deal
Seems a bit meh with that decision
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The thing that stood out for me with Barker's video highlights was that he constantly hit targets. (Mind you, they are only highlights).
That is the thing with Hawthorn, particularly in their successful years, they draft players who kick well. They often draft left footers, but they have to be able to kick the footy accurately.
