Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack IV - Probable Case of Genocide

[Saint]

Meanwhile in the totally non-apartheid Israel, Jewish teens are filming themselves attacking Arab workers.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-teens-accused-of-assaulting-two-arab-public-workers-in-jerusalem/

Transit officials reported a spike in racist violence against Arab bus drivers in Jerusalem in particular last month, after 12 assaults were reported within a single week. A driver who was injured in one of the attacks told The Times of Israel that he was called a terrorist and spat on.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Just call them draft dodgers as that's what they are.
They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk, and conscriping them might change some israelis pro war stance.

Ultra-Orthodox conscription bill threatens crisis for Israel's government

Lawmakers are considering a draft bill to end the exemption granted to ultra-Orthodox men enrolled in full-time religious study.

www.bbc.com

 

[Saint]

I wonder if the rock-throwers or "terrorists" as the news article has described people who allegedly threw rocks were children. Doesn't really matter, the IDF kills them anyway. In the West Bank, Palestinian territory. Tell me again how it's not an apartheid state of occupation.

IDF: One dead after stone attack near Azun | The Jerusalem Post

The actions of the suspects "endangered the civilians who were driving along the route," the IDF said.

www.jpost.com

 

[RCAB]

The thread title should be changed. Grossly misleading.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

It's a multi-part thread but I see that Aristotle Pickett the3rd started this part and has had their account either banned or deleted (Oops! We ran into some problems. This user's profile is not available).

Chief, Gralin - hows about renaming the thread to something more wholly reflective of the crimes against humanity that Netanyahu's Israel is perpetuating against Gaza?

 

[Harlott]

Who or what exactly is BF waiting for to reflect in the thread title that it is flat out genocide rather than just “probable”?

 

[Present Not Past]

Meanwhile in the totally non-apartheid Israel, Jewish teens are filming themselves attacking Arab workers.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-teens-accused-of-assaulting-two-arab-public-workers-in-jerusalem/

Transit officials reported a spike in racist violence against Arab bus drivers in Jerusalem in particular last month, after 12 assaults were reported within a single week. A driver who was injured in one of the attacks told The Times of Israel that he was called a terrorist and spat on.

Where Israelis continue to persecute innocent individuals purely based on their race.
I mean, the world just continues to baffle me.
Is Gaza City just a huge concentration camp, guarded by Israeli citizens?
Israeli citizens probably descended from family members murdered in concentration camps?
Benjamin Netenyahu - stoking the hate for political gain, supported by a demented and sickly Donald Trump?

 

[Not Important]

lousie will be one of many honorable jews who will be on the right side of history. and she's paid a price for her advocacy. zionists are a vengeful lot.

 

[Not Important]

should have occurred years ago.

 

[Not Important]

a woman of honour, decency, and stoicism.
"The ferocity of the witch hunt against Albanese is not accidental; it is a panic response. She is dangerous to the establishment not because she is a politician using slogans, but because she wields the unassailable, technical weapon of International Law against a propaganda machine built on lies"

Witch Hunt: The Heretic and the Inquisition: Why the West Fears Francesca Albanese

Francesca Albanese, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, represents

www.counterpunch.org

 

[Not Important]

 

[Aussie in exile]

1500 buildings in Gaza destroyed since the ceasefire and dumb donny says the war there is over

Israel has destroyed more than 1,500 buildings in Gaza since ceasefire

Entire neighbourhoods controlled by Israel have been levelled in less than a month, the images show.

www.bbc.com

 

[Saint]

Israel are single-handedly trying to start a world war. Much more than Russia which has only attacked one country. Israel has attacked
Syria
Palestine (genocide in Gaza, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank)
Lebanon
Qatar
Iran
Yemen
Iraq

They're waiting for a co-ordinated response to drag the USA into all these conflicts.

 

[Present Not Past]

Israel are single-handedly trying to start a world war. Much more than Russia which has only attacked one country. Israel has attacked
Syria
Palestine (genocide in Gaza, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank)
Lebanon
Qatar
Iran
Yemen
Iraq

They're waiting for a co-ordinated response to drag the USA into all these conflicts.

Despots love wars. They're distractions.
Mussolini invades Ethiopia, Libya and threatens Egypt. Hugely popular at home.
Hitler invades Austria, Czechoslovakia and finally Poland. Hugely popular at home.
Putin invades Ukraine - evades assassination.
Netenyahu invades Gaza - evades prosecution and jail.
Trump only threatens to invade Greenland, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela.
Trump is still just a despot on training wheels.

 

[tazaa]

The thread title should be changed. Grossly misleading.

I said as much months ago.

Its not accurate at all.

"Israel declare war against Palestinians in 1948. Struggle is ongoing, amidst genocide in Gaza"

 

[tazaa]

It's a multi-part thread but I see that Aristotle Pickett the3rd started this part and has had their account either banned or deleted (Oops! We ran into some problems. This user's profile is not available).

Chief, Gralin - hows about renaming the thread to something more wholly reflective of the crimes against humanity that Netanyahu's Israel is perpetuating against Gaza?

Who or what exactly is BF waiting for to reflect in the thread title that it is flat out genocide rather than just “probable”?

I would say a change in the thread title would cause more headaches for Chief

Not withstanding any pro-Israel mods and posters on here, of which there are a few who have the Israeli flag as their profile picture.
A change would be met with some venom. Remember, we are onto our 4th edition of this thread now.


So the title remains as "Israel declares war after hamas attack" - for the sole purpose of setting the narrative as Israel being blameless victims in this. Which is totally bullshit.

 

[DaTBird187]

We can at least propose our more accurate thread titles in here though.

Mine would be 'Israel is committing genocide in Palestine. Continue to blatantly defy ceasefire by murdering civilians.'

It is wordy, but certainly accurate.

 

[RCAB]

I said as much months ago.

Its not accurate at all.

"Israel declare war against Palestinians in 1948. Struggle is ongoing, amidst genocide in Gaza"

You can take umbrage with the word genocide, or possible genocide, I'd even argue from my POV it's a "clear genocide", and many genocide experts agree with me... The international court decision on whether it's a genocide is still pending... so I don't have issue with that part of the title.

The issue I have with title is... The war on Hamas. Particularly saying it's "a war". A dystopian open air prison for decades, resistance groups form and then some of them broke out and decided to go on a killing spree. Where is the war?

During the Holocaust, would you have condemned the Jews if they broke out of the Warsaw Ghetto and formed resistance groups, then went on a killing spree? Would you call it a war?

 

[Saint]

You can take umbrage with the word genocide, or possible genocide, I'd even argue from my POV it's a "clear genocide", and many genocide experts agree with me... The international court decision on whether it's a genocide is still pending... so I don't have issue with that part of the title.

The issue I have with title is... The war on Hamas. Particularly saying it's "a war". A dystopian open air prison for decades, resistance groups form and then some of them broke out and decided to go on a killing spree. Where is the war?

During the Holocaust, would you have condemned the Jews if they broke out of the Warsaw Ghetto and formed resistance groups, then went on a killing spree? Would you call it a war?

By the Israeli definition, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising was terrorism. They hid in, and emerged from, sewers, they hid weapons in schools, synagogues and other similar locations and attacked the occupying authority. Yet, they have monuments for these terrorists in Israel.

The ŻOB's tactic was to fire at approaching enemy forces from bunkers while a second group would attack from behind after emerging from a secret exit in the bunker system.

Sounds familiar.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

By the Israeli definition, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising was terrorism. They hid in, and emerged from, sewers, they hid weapons in schools, synagogues and other similar locations and attacked the occupying authority. Yet, they have monuments for these terrorists in Israel.

The ŻOB's tactic was to fire at approaching enemy forces from bunkers while a second group would attack from behind after emerging from a secret exit in the bunker system.

Sounds familiar.

I think during a war , its considered " resistance " but.... there was a "war " in Gaza right ?

 

[Saint]

I think during a war , its considered " resistance " but.... there was a "war " in Gaza right ?

Hamas and Hezbollah call themselves resistance fighters against the occupiers.

 

[Chief]

Who or what exactly is BF waiting for to reflect in the thread title that it is flat out genocide rather than just “probable”?

Yes. Not doing it is definitely a STATEMENT, instead of just something we haven't thought too much about.

 

[tazaa]

Hamas and Hezbollah call themselves resistance fighters against the occupiers.

Under international law, the civilian population of an occupied territory is not obligated to obey the occupying power. The right to resist foreign occupation is supported by the principle of self-determination of peoples. The UN General Assembly has affirmed the legitimacy of struggles against foreign occupation, including armed struggle.

By the US, the UK, Aus and Europe calling them terrorist it delegitimises their rights and the justful cause.
And Israel can then carpet bomb whoever they want with impunity.

 

[Deliverance]

Who or what exactly is BF waiting for to reflect in the thread title that it is flat out genocide rather than just “probable”?

There's a war crimes thread on the crime board.

 

[Chief]

"According to a letter from experts in this field to the Lancet, studies of other wars – most of them far less destructive than Israel’s on the tiny enclave – indicate that between three and 15 times more people are killed by indirect, rather than direct, methods of warfare.

The authors conservatively estimate an indirect death toll four times greater than the direct death toll. That would mean, at a minimum, 350,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza through Israel’s actions.

The reality is likely to be even worse. That is without even mentioning the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who have been left with horrific injuries and psychological trauma."

Israel's biggest con trick: Hiding the true numbers it has killed in Gaza

Israel has penned us all into a 'debate', one entirely divorced from reality, that relates only to those killed directly by its bombs and gunfire – not the genocide it is waging by other means

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