Cricket Discussion - Part 3

[philreich]

Warne getting caught at deep square on 99 and it turned out it was a massive front foot no ball.

Ponting LBW for 96 on debut despite it looking like missing high and down leg.

It worked both ways - Symonds given not out caught behind at the SCG, goes on to make a huge hundred.

Mark Taylor plumb LBW first ball in Pakistan - goes on to make 334 not out.

 

[Doctor Feel]

if adelaide oval were worried the test would be over before the weekend, they would be in acceptance now.

 

[tribey]

It worked both ways - Symonds given not out caught behind at the SCG, goes on to make a huge hundred.

Mark Taylor plumb LBW first ball in Pakistan - goes on to make 334 not out.

I’d definitely trade that Tubby triple ton for Warne getting to raise his bat

 

[Doctor Feel]

Really enjoying actually seeing some spin for the first time this series.

 

[afl2004]

Archer better batter then Joe root

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

As good as Carey is standing up to the stumps has been, it gives me a better appreciation of baseball catchers ability.

A pitcher pitches the ball from the pitcher's plate which is 61 feet from home plate, and a fast ball is between 95and 102 miles per hour ( 153 and 164 km/hr) and there is no slowing down the speed because the ball bounces on a pitch.

Wicket to wicket its 66 feet, so Carey standing up at the stumps is about the same distance as a baseball catcher is from the pitcher.

During the first test, I think it was the Fox Cricket commentators, might have been someone on radio, were talking about the slower ball and how Aussie MLB catcher Dave Nilsson helped Craig McDermott develop his split finger slower ball in 1996 for ODI cricket, he then passed it on to Glen McGrath and McGrath later reached out to Nilsson to help him develop it further than what McDermott had showed him.

Whoever was the pommie commentator - if it was on Fox Cricket it would have been Vaughan, asked, did McGrath ring up Nilsson to ask him about it and to help him out.

The Aussie commentator (can't remember who it was) replied with no, and that Nilsson went out in the middle with McGrath and they practiced it over and over. Nilsson said start off bowling your normal line and length ball and then we will change it to the split finger seam placement bowling. Nilsson stood up to the stumps and McGrath said you are too close for the pace I bowl my normal ball at.

Nilsson told McGrath that if he puts the ball where he said he would, then he will have no problem catching it with his baseball catchers glove. He told him he catches 100 m/hr pitches no problem just behind a batter. Nilsson stood up had no problem taking McGrath's normal deliveries and then they worked on him developing a baseball style split finger slower ball and McGrath ended up mastering it and used it in both white ball and red ball cricket.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Why can they not bowl to Jofra Archer? They persist with bowling short to leg side fields and he keeps thrashing runs off them. Just bowl properly to him! They make him look like an all-rounder.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Earlier today I heard a commentator say that only in Australia, is snicko/ultra edge used.

I saw Athers and Nasser in their daily sum up 15 minute you tube video for Sky Cricket say that in England they use hot spot and not snicko/ ultra edge.

It was 2 or 3 years ago, maybe more, that in Oz we found out hot spot was faulty, think it didn't show up fine edges if a batsmen had repair tape on his bat, so after years of the broadcasters using it, it was ditched.

This is where England, Australia and now India the last decade or so, haven't given the ICC enough power to impose standard technology rules across all test playing nations and all nations that have ODI status and can play in an ODI WC have the same technology, and that the ICC have to fund the technology, not the host broadcaster.

Nobody Runs Cricket - is Jarrod Kimber's favourite saying and he is right.

The ICC is nothing like FIFA, or FIBA, or World Athletics or World Aquatics where they control the overall rules for the whole world and make sure every nation has to implement them consistently.

In cricket the big boys can chisel out of ICC recommendations and can sign bi-lateral test playing conditions that are different to conditions other nations play by. The MCC write the Laws of the game and they control them, not the ICC, but technology use is discretionary.

Test Cricket is basically a gentleman's club that restricts who gets to play.

In soccer FIFA lets American Samoa have a national team and if they play Australia and lose 31-0 then bad luck, they don't say no that will affect the history books and we will ban American Samoa from internationals. If Nepal wants to play Oz in test cricket then they should be allowed to, just like minnow nations get to play the giants in soccer, basketball, volleyball, baseball etc.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Trent Copeland's take on the DRS farce.




Simon Taufel's take on what is going on, how the ICC has said umpires no longer are required to make a soft call before they call for a review if they aren't sure if its out and why the 3rd umpire is restricted on what he can and can't adjudicate. There is a bit of defending the party line by Taufel

 

[Grave Danger]

Haha - ol' Peter Siddle still going around in the BBL at age 41. All salt and no pepper these days, no need for peroxide with him.

 

[afl2004]

 

[TazD]

Howabout Joe Burns. Tried to get Italians to work harder, and they sacked him.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Earlier today I heard a commentator say that only in Australia, is snicko/ultra edge used.

I saw Athers and Nasser in their daily sum up 15 minute you tube video for Sky Cricket say that in England they use hot spot and not snicko/ ultra edge.

Australia and New Zealand use Snicko. They use Ultra Edge in England, India and South Africa. They're different products.

Snicko is the original one, Ultra-edge was developed by Hawkeye. And it also uses tracking.

Hot spot, as well as being dodgy is also extremely expensive. So its not used enough.

 

[tribey]

Howabout Joe Burns. Tried to get Italians to work harder, and they sacked him.

“Only Joe Scuderi can save me now”

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Lift your standards!

 

[tribey]

Making Archer look like Sir Garfield Sobers

 

[afl2004]

Embarrassing bowling to tail enders yet again , have to be way better at finishing the job to have any chance against south Africa

 

[philreich]

Making Archer look like Sir Garfield Sobers

Which shows how good the pitch is.

Just read that Crawley has become the first Test opener in history to score less than 3000 runs from his first 100 innings.

 

[Greasyrhys]

Embarrassing bowling to tail enders yet again , have to be way better at finishing the job to have any chance against south Africa

100%.

 

[Doctor Feel]

This is garbage. You would think we were told to make the test go longer.

 

[TazD]

Finally

 

[Rising Power]

Thank fk for that. Lead should've been 150 but 85 is better than nothing. Need to put on 400 to put it beyond any doubt.

 

[1954]

Making Archer look like Sir Garfield Sobers

Agreed, the Aussie bowlers should have given Archer some short pitched chin music as soon as he walked to the crease, but instead they let him get on the front foot way too easily and a potential 150 plus lead was unfortunately cut in half.

 

[philreich]

Agreed, the Aussie bowlers should have given Archer some short pitched chin music as soon as he walked to the crease, but instead they let him get on the front foot way too easily and a potential 150 plus lead was unfortunately cut in half.

But there's still so much time left in the game, and if their number 10 can pass 50, our batsmen should cash in if they cut out the silly shots from day 1.

 

[tribey]

Yeesh