Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes
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I’m not sure what you are arguing as it’s a bit all over the place.
If a senior coach was told “ we don’t know what the issue is” and he sent him out there to play and he gets hurt more, that is 109% negligence because it’s outside of a coaches knowledge or expertise to make medical judgments. coaches get told yes they can play on or no they can’t, and they go based off that. They don’t make the call themselves.
It would have been this:
Scott: what’s going on?
Doctor/physio: we are unsure but we suspect x,y,z
Scott: ok can he play on or not?
doctor/physio: yes, we are giving injection (most likely) and tested it out, he can go back on.
Scott: ok
That’s how it plays out. When the GP and physio say your best player can go back out, you send him back out for a GF.
I am repeatedly addressing this because this isnt the first time I have heard someone claim that the head coach is the one who makes the call if injured players can play on or not, and it is just not true. They have little involvement.
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I'll simplify it for you.
1. Medicos saying he's good to go when they suspect he has a broken arm = gross negligence. I can't imagine any medico saying that.
2. Regardless of the medicos advice, a player has a right to take risks against that advice, which is probably what Cameron did.
3. A head coach absolutely is responsible for making calls concerning subs. In this case the call should have been made, even if Cameron was prepared to play on.
Why would he sub him if the medico team said he is right to play?? You wouldn’t.
And no 1 is a contentious point and more a discussion. When it’s finals they do push boundaries a little more with injury tolerances. In terms of negligence with a broken arm it’s not probably as likely because A) it will most likely require surgical fixation anyway B) if he has had those risks explained to him and agrees to continue it’s his choice. It’s more about pain management at that point. It’s not something that will be worse off for playing on.
Again you keep trying to circle around to coaches making the decisions, again they are distanced. By the way this is also my profession so I can tell you for certain coaches don’t make those calls if they play on or not
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A coach can at least use his eyes and see that a player can't perform basic football actions like tackling, jostling or marking, and make the call. Call it a tactical decision at that point that's for the good of the team. It's precisely what you've got a sub for. I thought it was a huge cop out for him to blame the sub rule after the match for what was a clear failure on the coaches part to respond .
When did they sub Stanley?? I can’t even recall. I can easily see it could have gone either way in the end. If we got ontop around the ball and Cameron got out the back onto some goals it would have looked great, but we ended up getting an ass whooping around the contest and clearance game and then when cameron has zero impact ( let’s be clear, he was doing absolutely nothing prior to the injury either) then people will call it a bad decision to keep him on and not sub him when he was having zero impact after being out for a while on painkillers.
It’s one of those tomatoe tomato things tbh in hindsight. Wasn’t a factor in the result or even something the coaches were focused on given the major concerns around clearances. I would be surprised if it was even in their list of top 5 dilemmas at the time.
Perhaps. Although on the basis of recent posting in this thread, he'd need to win the 26 flag as well.
#readthatagain
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Geez! You guys are talking like it's all Chris Scott's agency (like the Team or the improvement of opposing teams has nothing to do with it). It's like Chris Scott owes some money and he better fess up in 2026. Totally in his hands!
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Look i can remember ( who cant) the day after the shattering loss in the 2008 GF ( mind you there was very little pain because we won the 09 GF - and as Meatloaf says , 2 out of 3 aint bad )
But Glen Archer who had a bit to do with Mark Thompson , because Thompson was an assistant coach at N/Melb when Archer was still playing , and Archer had a column in the Sunday Age
And in his review of the GF , Glen Archer simply said , i dont think Bomber Thompson had his best day in the coaches box , and i think you could say exactly the same thing about [PLAYERCARD]Chris Scott[/PLAYERCARD] in the 2025 GF debacle
But Glen Archer who had a bit to do with Mark Thompson , because Thompson was an assistant coach at N/Melb when Archer was still playing , and Archer had a column in the Sunday Age
And in his review of the GF , Glen Archer simply said , i dont think Bomber Thompson had his best day in the coaches box , and i think you could say exactly the same thing about [PLAYERCARD]Chris Scott[/PLAYERCARD] in the 2025 GF debacle
Very curious to see others thoughts on these comments from Scott
“Scores were level at half-time, close enough to level halfway through the third quarter. But it was rare we thought the game was going the way we wanted.
“There were various reasons for that, so I’ll be thinking about them at 3am often over the next couple of months
What are peoples thoughts on what exactly these reasons are and what went wrong??
And please no dumb comments like: “ we didn’t sub Cameron or take him off early enough, discuss our medical team and their job in a separate thread”.
“Scores were level at half-time, close enough to level halfway through the third quarter. But it was rare we thought the game was going the way we wanted.
“There were various reasons for that, so I’ll be thinking about them at 3am often over the next couple of months
What are peoples thoughts on what exactly these reasons are and what went wrong??
And please no dumb comments like: “ we didn’t sub Cameron or take him off early enough, discuss our medical team and their job in a separate thread”.
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I'd say a huge amount of it would be Harris Andrews and our inability to get around their defensive structure.
In the first half the game was very even around the contest. In our gamelan normally that would be a big tick but the second part which was to kill them on the spread never looked like happening. We just couldn't break down their defence and were left relying on pressure and them making bad turnovers to score.
In the end we took bigger risks to try and be dangerous in attack and it left us exposed when they won the ball in the second half.
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Best news off the offseason to date.
BlakeyNoFlakey
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That'll bring Scotty's tenure as our coach to 18 years in 2029. That's just incredible. What an absolute legend of the game. He could pass Mick Malthouse's record of 718 coached games.
BlakeyNoFlakey
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Just another thought about this. If Scotty leaves or retires in 2029, and he can keep his current record intact (W/L ratio, Finals appearances, etc.) and maybe snatch us another flag (or two), then he'd have to go down as one of the best coaches of the modern era.
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If he maintains a similar win/loss ratio, he'd definitely go down as one of the best H&A coaches of all time, perhaps the best ever. Particularly impressive given how long he's maintained it.
However, "Best-ever H&A coach" is a sentence that will be completed with a clause introduced by "but".
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Dimma hardwick has just jumped ships to a behemoth loaded with first round draft picks something like 16 of them. If he wins 3 flags with that group and goes now to a total of 6 flags, based off your logic he is the best finals coach of all time or at least modern history
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That he will be based on GF wins; fair enough too.
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Nah the afl have stacked the deck with GC the achievement will be tainted.
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This clause i dont understand.
Yes I hate watching Geelong lose GFs but clubs like st kilda or the bulldogs would kill to go deep in finals every year like we do. It's better than what everyone else achieves.
It’s criticized like there are two magic buttons to choose from. One big red one saying “ constantly make top four” while the other one says “ bottom out and then win a flag”.
No club has ever chosen to bottom out, it happens. Hardwick tried to stack Richmond to do a geelong bringing in hopper Taranto and the ship still sunk an he got himself a lifeboat towards GCS.
