Certified Legendary Thread Covid, Life, UFOs, Food, & Wordle :( Part 2

[JoinDate]

WTF dude?
Give it a rest.

Speaking of which, I hear tensions between Thailand and Cambodia have escalated recently. Everything okay over there?

 

[FatJesus]

Speaking of which, I hear tensions between Thailand and Cambodia have escalated recently. Everything okay over there?

Thailand demanding a ceasefire mate.
Thai army there now so it has settled a little.

 

[Tadpole]

Wordle 1,644 4/6

 

[granniewolf]

Today 19/12

Wordle 1,644 4/6

 

[manicpie]

Another terrorist attack foiled yesterday. Thank God because these gronks came from Melbourne with the intention of carrying out another attack in Bondi. Thanks Albo

 

[jmac70]

Another terrorist attack foiled yesterday. Thank God because these gronks came from Melbourne with the intention of carrying out another attack in Bondi. Thanks Albo

Mate, I hope you are ok.
I think you should stop posting for a while.

 

[Antz]

Another terrorist attack foiled yesterday. Thank God because these gronks came from Melbourne with the intention of carrying out another attack in Bondi. Thanks Albo

Mate, they were released without any charges. The police are understandably cautious given the current circumstances.

 

[ZEV]

Mate, they were released without any charges. The police are understandably cautious given the current circumstances.

Wonder why they drove up instead of flying?

 

[granniewolf]

Today 20/12

Wordle 1,645 5/6

 

[Tadpole]

Wordle 1,645 4/6

 

[gouki88]

I'm taking the post at face value that he's paying his respects to the people who lost their lives at Bondi.

I'm sure he's just as upset at all the children dying of starvation in Gaza because Netanyahu ceasing aid because after all, this isn't about race, religeon or ethnicity. It's about people needlessly losing their lives - anywhere in the world.

Given he posted the flag representative of the regime doing this, I wouldn't be. That plus jumping the gun about the blokes arrested yesterday for the crime of being brown Muslims suggests less balance than you're giving credit for

 

[jathanas]

I'm taking the post at face value that he's paying his respects to the people who lost their lives at Bondi.

I'm sure he's just as upset at all the children dying of starvation in Gaza because Netanyahu ceasing aid because after all, this isn't about race, religeon or ethnicity. It's about people needlessly losing their lives - anywhere in the world.

I'm more upset about the Australians who were killed in Bondi due to their religion.

 

[gouki88]

I'm more upset about the Australians who were killed in Bondi due to their religion.

Is sadness at innocent life lost some kind of zero-sum game? Genocide and terrorist incidents both seem worthy of distress to me

 

[jathanas]

Is sadness at innocent life lost some kind of zero-sum game? Genocide and terrorist incidents both seem worthy of distress to me

Not to me. This happened on our shores.

 

[gouki88]

Not to me. This happened on our shores.

Through no sin beyond the circumstances of their birth, and due to something as constructed as a border, the genocide of some is less sad than the murder of others? I find that at best pretty bizarre and cold

 

[jathanas]

Through no sin beyond the circumstances of their birth, and due to something as constructed as a border, the genocide of some is less sad than the murder of others? I find that at best pretty bizarre and cold

I find the way posters have so easily detached from what has taken place in Bondi and abstracted the situation by saying “all terrorism is very bad” equally odd.

Makes one wonder.

 

[gouki88]

I find the way posters have so easily detached from what has taken place in Bondi and abstracted the situation by saying “all terrorism is very bad” equally odd.

Makes one wonder.

Go on, state what you're trying to imply. Having vicious brutality livestreamed to our phones for over 2 years has almost certainly desensitised people to images and reports of violence.

How is it abstracting to try and apply the same value of life universally? What is the point you're trying to make?

 

[JoinDate]

I'm more upset about the Australians who were killed in Bondi due to their religion.

A life is a life. We're incredibly lucky we're born here. I often think about if my family weren't so lucky, and were born in a part of the world where fighting and war is the norm. I imagine what it would be like for my daughter to starve to death, or die from something as simple as diarrhea, simply because we were born in a specific area of the world, and I feel empathy for those living through it.

 

[JoinDate]

I find the way posters have so easily detached from what has taken place in Bondi and abstracted the situation by saying “all terrorism is very bad” equally odd.

Makes one wonder.

Exactly how have we detached from it? It's an incredibly horrific incident, no one is denying that.

 

[jathanas]

Go on, state what you're trying to imply. Having vicious brutality livestreamed to our phones for over 2 years has almost certainly desensitised people to images and reports of violence.

How is it abstracting to try and apply the same value of life universally? What is the point you're trying to make?

I’m not trying to be cryptic.

Valuing all life universally is obviously right — but it can also become a way of dodging what actually happened here. Jewish Australians were murdered in Australia. That isn’t abstract, and it isn’t a proxy debate about Gaza or Israeli policy.

What strikes me is how quickly the focus shifts from protecting Australian Jews to worrying about overreach or limits on protesting Israel — as if the main risk right now is to political expression rather than to a community that’s just been targeted.

Whatever your views on Gaza, Australian Jews aren’t killing Muslims in Australia. They’re citizens. And the violence here overwhelmingly flows one way.

I think there’s a real fear on the left of being labelled Islamophobic, but jihadist violence is a global reality. Acknowledging that isn’t abandoning universal values — it’s applying them honestly to what’s happening in this country.

This will be my final post on this topic.

 

[Ludovico]

I’m not trying to be cryptic.

Valuing all life universally is obviously right — but it can also become a way of dodging what actually happened here. Jewish Australians were murdered in Australia. That isn’t abstract, and it isn’t a proxy debate about Gaza or Israeli policy.

What strikes me is how quickly the focus shifts from protecting Australian Jews to worrying about overreach or limits on protesting Israel — as if the main risk right now is to political expression rather than to a community that’s just been targeted.

Whatever your views on Gaza, Australian Jews aren’t killing Muslims in Australia. They’re citizens. And the violence here overwhelmingly flows one way.

I think there’s a real fear on the left of being labelled Islamophobic, but jihadist violence is a global reality. Acknowledging that isn’t abandoning universal values — it’s applying them honestly to what’s happening in this country.

This will be my final post on this topic.

Everything you wrote feels right at an emotional truth. And in some ways it resonates a little with my reaction to the Tom Silvagni thing too. It's easy to become absorbed by discourse that focusses on the perpetrator and lose sight of the victims and the horrible reality of what was done.

I would freely admit to being still in a form of shock. We are lucky here that atrocities of this magnitude are so rare in our experience it is almost impossible to assimilate the reality. But we have to understand for those directly involved, or who feel like they are in the line of fire because of it, its not remote. Its all too easy to assimilate the reality and the fear that bites into the soul like a cancer.

I don't know what the solution is. But I can only hope it lies somewhere in our power, and comes from rejecting the forces that led to this; the hate and dehumanisation that makes a group become a target. And hope that if I faced the test, I would take the same route as Ahmed al Ahmed. I guess his act is what I cling to to give me hope.

One of the hardest things I have found is talking about events like this with my son. I can't hide from him the fact the world at its core can be a ****ed up place and I dont have the answers and I wish I had easy answers or comforting words. He goes to school in Brighton and several of his mates are Jewish and he feels the attack on them as an attack on brothers.

I guess maybe there too lies some hope. Maybe him and his generation will do better than us.

Sorry for the rambling words. It has been a hard day at home, and it scrambles the brain. And I continue the challenge of life, to mix the strength to oppose and stand against the worst of humanity, with the love, patience, and compassion to give the best, and the hope that we can make inroads to move from one to the other. But if the time comes...meet it with fortitude too.

Love to you all and have a great Christmas and holiday season. Except Carlton **** those assholes.

 

[jathanas]

Everything you wrote feels right at an emotional truth. And in some ways it resonates a little with my reaction to the Tom Silvagni thing too. It's easy to become absorbed by discourse that focusses on the perpetrator and lose sight of the victims and the horrible reality of what was done.

I would freely admit to being still in a form of shock. We are lucky here that atrocities of this magnitude are so rare in our experience it is almost impossible to assimilate the reality. But we have to understand for those directly involved, or who feel like they are in the line of fire because of it, its not remote. Its all too easy to assimilate the reality and the fear that bites into the soul like a cancer.

I don't know what the solution is. But I can only hope it lies somewhere in our power, and comes from rejecting the forces that led to this; the hate and dehumanisation that makes a group become a target. And hope that if I faced the test, I would take the same route as Ahmed al Ahmed. I guess his act is what I cling to to give me hope.

One of the hardest things I have found is talking about events like this with my son. I can't hide from him the fact the world at its core can be a ****ed up place and I dont have the answers and I wish I had easy answers or comforting words. He goes to school in Brighton and several of his mates are Jewish and he feels the attack on them as an attack on brothers.

I guess maybe there too lies some hope. Maybe him and his generation will do better than us.

Sorry for the rambling words. It has been a hard day at home, and it scrambles the brain. And I continue the challenge of life, to mix the strength to oppose and stand against the worst of humanity, with the love, patience, and compassion to give the best, and the hope that we can make inroads to move from one to the other. But if the time comes...meet it with fortitude too.

Love to you all and have a great Christmas and holiday season. Except Carlton **** those assholes.

Thank you. Love to you, and yours.

 

[Ludovico]

Thank you. Love to you, and yours.

Same to you mate. Well, except that LFP.

 

[jimmy35]

Merry Xmas to my Magpie brethren and may your festive season be all you hoped it would be.
Hoping our Pies can stay healthy and fit and take us to great heights next season.
Enjoy the time with family and friends and hold those special to you just a little bit closer

 

[FatJesus]

Wonder why they drove up instead of flying?

What's so suspicious about driving to Sydney?
I have done this 200 + times in my life