FriendlyJordies- and friends

[Taylor]

I agree to an extent, but I'd also say that criticism of a party can be accepted by its rusted on base when the party room is being more moderate than the base is. Sky News and various online commentators routinely criticise the Liberal Party for not being conservative enough, and that doesn't annoy the rusted on Liberal voters because they want to see that too.

In theory something like that could also happen for Labor. But it hasn't, because Labor turned moderate many years ago. In that time, many of the more idealistic people on the left have switched to the Greens. Labor's current base is composed of either centrists who generally support where the party room is at, or pragmatists who are willing to park their ideals if they think it'll help Labor win elections. So they're not as willing to agree with complaints that Labor aren't progressive enough. This is why I call Labor a centrist party more than a centre-left one nowadays.

It helps that Labor politicians seem to be much more antagonistic to the Greens than Liberal politicians are to One Nation or other figures to their right. This "us and them" tribalism makes the Labor base annoyed at the more idealist left, and consequently more accepting of less ambitious Labor governments. The same is true of their counterparts in Britain with Jeremy Corbyn (and it could be argued the British Conservatives should have done the same with Nigel Farage) and of the US Democrats with AOC and Zohran Mamdani.

That is a fantastic point, the ALP in opposition are far more progressive than the ALP in government. It's been quite interesting to see the switch.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

That is a fantastic point, the ALP in opposition are far more progressive than the ALP in government. It's been quite interesting to see the switch.

Again, I agree to a point, and I'd also say that Albanese played a small target strategy with respect to policy, certainly compared to Shorten. This wasn't a great outcome for those who want to see ambitious progressive policy. If Labor lost with Shorten's reformism and won with Albanese's small target, what message does that send to the Labor party room about what they should be like in government? The last three years have been a natural consequence of that.

But more broadly, it's easier to take a stand when you don't have to worry about retaining government. And I think this will leave the Liberals in the wilderness for a long time unless they're gifted victory by Labor destroying themselves. People like Jacinta Price and Matt Canavan weren't exactly shy when they were in government, but they're more prominent now and their strong conservative views put a lot of people off. The more they and their allies speak their mind, the more likely they are to remain in opposition.

That's all a bit unfortunate for FJs business model. Ironically, he'd get more views under a Liberal government because there would be palpable discontent like when Scummo and Gladys were ruling the roost. The same is true in reverse for Andrew Bolt. They're all promoting outcomes that will shrink their audience.

 

[lloydbraun]

Jordies will criticise the ALP, albeit tepid, and very infrequently, particularly on is main YouTube channel.

If you listen to his podcast, which clearly, I do, his main reasoning is trying to paint a counternarrative to the MSM which, I'm sure most will agree, dunk on Labor at every opportunity.

I enjoy his content as a refreshing perspective, compared to hearing how 'they both suck' constantly.

On the other hand, I bought one of his shirts and it's been over 2 months and still hasn't arrived, so screw you FJ.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

It's amazing seeing people crticise FJ for being *** checks notes - not left enough.

Shows you just how truly insane some people here on BigFooty and in the world are.

 

[Gralin]

It's amazing seeing people crticise FJ for being *** checks notes - not left enough.

Shows you just how truly insane some people here on BigFooty and in the world are.

for someone who allegedly has a political science degree you don't read good

 

[Gough]

for someone who allegedly has a political science degree you don't read good

This is where you hang shit on someone for being a dreaded Arts grad.

 

[Gralin]

This is where you hang shit on someone for being a dreaded Arts grad.

Nothing wrong with arts degrees

 

[Gough]

Nothing wrong with arts degrees

Quite agree, FBI I would have thought sees them as petri dishes for the murderous left though.

 

[Gralin]

Quite agree, FBI I would have thought sees them as petri dishes for the murderous left though.

Don't really care about that just find it interesting that they read complaints about being partisan as not being left enough and claim to have a tertiary education that should including actual understandings of those words but apparently don't

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Don't really care about that just find it interesting that they read complaints about being partisan as not being left enough and claim to have a tertiary education that should including actual understandings of those words but apparently don't

It was largely in response to a post about FJ daring to not glowingly endorse the Greens.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

It's amazing seeing people crticise FJ for being *** checks notes - not left enough.

Shows you just how truly insane some people here on BigFooty and in the world are.

Oh no, some people think differently to you. This must come as a tremendous shock and I hope you had your smelling salts handy.

Also, it is very courageous of you to call people insane without tagging or quoting them. I applaud how confident and self-assured you must be.

 

[Gethelred]

Also, it is very courageous of you to call people insane without tagging or quoting them. I applaud how confident and self-assured you must be.

 

[Gralin]

It was largely in response to a post about FJ daring to not glowingly endorse the Greens.

How would anyone know?

 

[CM86]

It's amazing seeing people crticise FJ for being *** checks notes - not left enough.

Shows you just how truly insane some people here on BigFooty and in the world are.

People can hold positions on multiple axis...
It's a claim you've repeatedly made over the years to try and pretend you're not MAGA/alt-right etc.

People can be 'left', and not support FJ.
Most are.
The fact that you're completely unable to comprehend this is something you need to justify.
You can't. So ignore this, or do whatever you need to, to dismiss this.

'A centrist isn't -left- enough'. If only you'd question MAGA as much as you question random posters...

 

[Gethelred]

He all but accuses the ABC of knowing who specifically arranged the firebombing of his house in here.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

He all but accuses the ABC of knowing who specifically arranged the firebombing of his house in here.

I missed the original 'Corination' video that he was forced to take down, is the argument that Barilar*o has gone into business with some dodgy developers who have connections in the underworld who then have taken umbrage with FJ's investigations into Barilar*o and his business dealings, and that Barilar*o has favourable ears in the ABC who he feeds stories - is that effectively the argument?

 

[Gethelred]

I missed the original 'Corination' video that he was forced to take down, is the argument that Barilar*o has gone into business with some dodgy developers who have connections in the underworld who then have taken umbrage with FJ's investigations into Barilar*o and his business dealings, and that Barilar*o has favourable ears in the ABC who he feeds stories - is that effectively the argument?

In the Coronation vid, FJ went over the dubious network of association between Coronation, the Alameddine crime family and Barilaro.

Here's a reupload:

 

[CM86]

In the Coronation vid, FJ went over the dubious network of association between Coronation, the Alameddine crime family and Barilaro.

Here's a reupload:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/bik...ver-friendlyjordies-text-20251021-p5n495.html Paywall

Mahmood Fazal, a former member of the Mongols bikie gang who has worked as an investigative reporter with the ABC since 2021, has accused former associate Ryan Naumenko of fabricating an explosive text message in which Fazal speaks out against YouTube figure Jordan Shanks, known online as FriendlyJordies.​

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In the encrypted text exchanges between the pair, screenshots of which have been seen by this masthead, Fazal sent a text to Naumenko on the evening of October 2 saying: “F--- Jordies and his people they’re dogs I wanna kill him so bad.”​

The previous day, Shanks had released a video, They Tried to Kill Me, in which he complained that the only person who had been jailed over the November 2022 firebombing of his home had been the hired “muscle” for the Alameddine organised crime gang.​

“I don’t know why hes [sic] crying…comes with the territory…u want to shit on gangsters and make fun of them in ur [sic] video,” said Fazal in one message. In another, he said, “nah he [Shanks] has to get what he gets…”​

 

[nut]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/bik...ver-friendlyjordies-text-20251021-p5n495.html Paywall

Mahmood Fazal, a former member of the Mongols bikie gang who has worked as an investigative reporter with the ABC since 2021, has accused former associate Ryan Naumenko of fabricating an explosive text message in which Fazal speaks out against YouTube figure Jordan Shanks, known online as FriendlyJordies.​

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In the encrypted text exchanges between the pair, screenshots of which have been seen by this masthead, Fazal sent a text to Naumenko on the evening of October 2 saying: “F--- Jordies and his people they’re dogs I wanna kill him so bad.”​

The previous day, Shanks had released a video, They Tried to Kill Me, in which he complained that the only person who had been jailed over the November 2022 firebombing of his home had been the hired “muscle” for the Alameddine organised crime gang.​

“I don’t know why hes [sic] crying…comes with the territory…u want to shit on gangsters and make fun of them in ur [sic] video,” said Fazal in one message. In another, he said, “nah he [Shanks] has to get what he gets…”​

Absolutely shilling… corruption to its core.

 

[CM86]

Absolutely shilling… corruption to its core.

I don't know if this is really brave by FriendlyJordies and his team.
Or if it's the only form of protection they have left.


Considering the number of news stories that have been done on him over the years... How is this not getting the same attention?

I mean, pretty easy slam dunk for Labor here. You'd expect them to be pulling this up and talking about it all the time under Parliamentary privilege.
Instead they're still making deals with Coronation, and doing media ops with them etc.

Coronation are lucky that they aren't a Union...

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

 

[Over The Post]

I haven't followed FJ for a while, just got sick of the incessant Labor toadyism. I may have to watch the above, scuttlebutt is he is actually taking Labor to task.