Feels a little desperate to include him tbh. England would rather face Neser or Doggett than Richardson at his best for sure but how close is Richardson to his best? And for how long can he sustain performances somewhere near his best?
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swanny1234
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Nah totally flies in the face of the Sheffield shield.
It would be like us picking a bloke that had 10 touches in the WAFL over one that had 30 week in week out,
Disgraceful selection picking Murphy, utter vic bias.
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As opposed to the utter WA bias of carrying Green, playing Inglis as a specialist bat and Richardson jumping the queue.
Saw him in the BBL recently and he was throwing over arm.Very gingerly.But a totally different action throwing to bowling.
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No one outside of West Australians seems to have any issues picking Murphy.
If it was solely about picking the players with the best shield stats George Bailey's job wouldn't exist and a player like Nathan Lyon never plays a test match.
Murphy was the obvious selection. Simple as that. Plus he's averaged 23 with the ball this season - hardly ignoring shield form. Played less games because he got selected for Australia A.
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Exactly right. Lyon was being outperformed by Beer, Holland, Doherty and O’Keefe when he was picked. And that went alright.
I actually don’t think there’s much difference between Murphy and Rocc as prospects. But Murphy seems to be bowling well this year in less games and is more suited to the MCG. Certainly nothing to be upset by.
Although I like the bit about Bailey’s job not existing…
swanny1234
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Murphy just isn’t very good. Got dropped in Sri Lanka for Connolly, got dropped in England for Green, Smith showed absolutely zero trust in his bowling over in Sri Lanka - gave Head overs ahead of him at times.
Outside of Murphys debut on a Nagpur dustbowl, he’s shown little to no reason to think he’s good enough for test cricket.
The guy bowls darts. Rocchi is a more attacking spinner that gets bounce, perfect for Australian conditions and is the form spinner over 2 seasons in shield cricket. He also played Australia A cricket and did well.
Absolute slap in the face to Rocchi, what else could he possibly do?
swanny1234
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Richardson hasn’t jumped any queue - he was the next man in before he got injured, no reason for him not to be the next man in now he’s fit.
Green is out of form I agree.
There's been plenty of players overlooked with good shield stats for players with average records.
Also saying Murphy bowls darts is just plain wrong.
No one outside WA has any issue with this selection.
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And Murphy has been next man in outside of the subcontinent for the last few years, no reason for him to not be now.
Like him or dislike him Bailey's job needs to exist because selectors need to watch shield cricket and make a judgement on whether a player's form will stack up at the next level. Sometimes that's the guy with the best stats, sometimes it's not.
If it was all about stats then the coaching staff could just decide when someone needs to be dropped and select the guy from below with the best stats. That's never been how it works though - even when we were one of the best teams ever we'd overlook players that were performing very well in the shield for players doing not quite as well.
Also those names we overlooked to pick, O'Keefe aside, are enough to give Aussie cricket fans nightmares.
Not complaing about Murphy getting the nod.But not sure your points re Murph and The Rocc are right.
Sure I saw the other day where the Rocc has almost double the wickets at a better average.
And Kerry O'Keefe has constanly said that the Rocc is the most like Lyon. High action, over spin and bounce and get wickets wher ever he plays.
It seems a bit odd… did he injure himself in that one test, or did they genuinely plan for him to only play one?
Murphy has a much better average this season but tbh the sample size isn't all that high.
The sample size being small is why Rocc has more wickets.
He missed a game because he got picked for Australia A, which the selectors overlooked Rocc for.
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The irony of course is that they played much better in Adelaide off the Noosa prep than they did earlier off the Key/McCullum prep.
This is the damning one for me (from BBC chief cricket reporter Stephan Shemilt):
"Strength and conditioning coach Pete Sim invited the entire group for a run along the coast at 07:45am. Smith, Bashir and Tongue were the only players to turn out."
"Strength and conditioning coach Pete Sim invited the entire group for a run along the coast at 07:45am. Smith, Bashir and Tongue were the only players to turn out."
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That reads like something out of a Warwick Todd diary!
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His form doesn’t warrant selection ahead of Rocchiccioli who has been a lot better.
The statistics can be doctored either way. Rocc simply hasn't been a lot better.
Murphy is taking wickets at 5 runs less on average since he was last selected for Australia. Rocc was overlooked for that series.
Rocc has bowlers overs and taken more wickets in the shield this season.
Take your black and gold glasses off.
It's like Freo selecting a midfielder who's been in the best 2-3 on the ground three times from four games and emergency twice over the guy that had done it 3-4 times from six games but never been emergency all season then us on here complaining that the second midfielder was hard done by because he'd had more disposals.
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Pretty sure Rocky is still going at 28s
It's not like his average is leagues apart from Todds
I think Kerry O’Keefe is a good judge of talent re spin bowlers. I remember that many years ago during a test commentary, the subject of a successor to Warne was discussed. O’Keefe ventured the opinion that the most promising spin bowler currently playing state level was someone called Lyon.
He was probably right.
He was probably right.
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As I’ve said, I don’t really care either way. I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other.
But there’s just no way to argue that Murphy hasn’t been in good form this year.
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