Current Claremont Murders Discussion & Edwards trial updates pt4 - Beyond the Verdict

[Kurve]

Here is
- Claremont Murders - Part One and Part Two and Part 3
- Media
- The Bunker

• Hey Bret? Stalking Claremont the book.
• Justice Hall's Decision 619 pgs

 

[StevieMac]

But Cables Water Ski Park is no where near Wellard or a wind mill???? And what do you mean by no more than three meters? Also, there are huge power towers near where JR was found could they be what you are looking for? They are man made? Respectfully.

A little while ago this thread noted that the likelihood of any of Sarah's remains being found after c. 30 years is small. Clothing, therefore, is the only realistic clue to where BRE left her body. I am highly sceptical that anything but an accidental uncovering of clothing (like by a dog or building work) might answer that question, with respect to the sleuths on here.

 

[Wombot]

A little while ago this thread noted that the likelihood of any of Sarah's remains being found after c. 30 years is small. Clothing, therefore, is the only realistic clue to where BRE left her body. I am highly sceptical that anything but an accidental uncovering of clothing (like by a dog or building work) might answer that question, with respect to the sleuths on here.

Or a confession from the suspect. Maybe someone close to him could appeal to him.

 

[Macca180]

A little while ago this thread noted that the likelihood of any of Sarah's remains being found after c. 30 years is small. Clothing, therefore, is the only realistic clue to where BRE left her body. I am highly sceptical that anything but an accidental uncovering of clothing (like by a dog or building work) might answer that question, with respect to the sleuths on here.

Or a confession from the suspect. Maybe someone close to him could appeal to him.

Or dangle something in front of him. I don't know his jail conditions etc. But something like you are not getting out campaigner but if you want a play station or better tv (for example) tell us where the body is for the family etc.

 

[StevieMac]

Or a confession from the suspect. Maybe someone close to him could appeal to him.

Yes, indeed: if only there were the merest flicker of humanity in that particular person.

 

[Eaglette01]

IMO The Spectacles area is often mentioned in this case, (where oh where is dear Sarah)

Today/tonight it burns (yet again)

 

[Krusty Crab]

Or dangle something in front of him. I don't know his jail conditions etc. But something like you are not getting out campaigner but if you want a play station or better tv (for example) tell us where the body is for the family etc.

does he still have any possibility of appeal through the courts? if he reveals SS body location it pretty much locks him in as guilty, with possible more time. I think the only way he would reveal SS location is via possibility of earlier parole. At the moment he has a slim chance of some time being free (48 years old at arrest, plus 40 years before parole = possible parole at 88 years old). at the moment there is not much worth trading for the delay or removal of that parole date.

Also do we know if he is close to his parents? could be he wont discuss SS location while they are still alive as it confirms his guilt.

 

[Ostins_Park]

I wouldn't hesitate to break out the waterboarding gear in pursuit of the truth here.

 

[StevieMac]

does he still have any possibility of appeal through the courts? if he reveals SS body location it pretty much locks him in as guilty, with possible more time. I think the only way he would reveal SS location is via possibility of earlier parole. At the moment he has a slim chance of some time being free (48 years old at arrest, plus 40 years before parole = possible parole at 88 years old). at the moment there is not much worth trading for the delay or removal of that parole date.

Also do we know if he is close to his parents? could be he wont discuss SS location while they are still alive as it confirms his guilt.

If I recall he was refused legal aid to appeal, which course he didn't pursue. Hence the appeal window has run out, I reckon. A more comfortable prison life albeit at a later stage is probably the only gambit open to him should he tell where he left Sarah.

 

[Fifty n Closing]

does he still have any possibility of appeal through the courts? if he reveals SS body location it pretty much locks him in as guilty, with possible more time. I think the only way he would reveal SS location is via possibility of earlier parole. At the moment he has a slim chance of some time being free (48 years old at arrest, plus 40 years before parole = possible parole at 88 years old). at the moment there is not much worth trading for the delay or removal of that parole date.

Also do we know if he is close to his parents? could be he wont discuss SS location while they are still alive as it confirms his guilt.

I think it’s basically going to continue to be an unofficial agreement between the on going hierarchy of the powers that be in Western Australia that BRE will never be released.

That said is anyone familiar with the guidelines/laws that parole is governed by?

As in let’s say for instance if BRE continues to be a model prisoner for his entire non parole period and when eligible for release that he’s also deemed absolutely no risk to the community eg say due to his age/poor health/mobility etc, can he still be denied parole “just because”?

 

[Two Planks]

Has anyone ever asked Wendy Davis or the Karakatta cemetery girl why they didn't nominate BRE as a suspect when the Claremont murders started. Watched a few docos and can't see that question ever being asked. I know that they didn't know his identity in the cemetery attack at the time, but they could have publicly linked them.

 

[Macca180]

I know that they didn't know his identity in the cemetery attack at the time, but they could have publicly linked them.

Wasn't he wearing a balaclava?

 

[Ostins_Park]

Has anyone ever asked Wendy Davis or the Karakatta cemetery girl why they didn't nominate BRE as a suspect when the Claremont murders started. Watched a few docos and can't see that question ever being asked. I know that they didn't know his identity in the cemetery attack at the time, but they could have publicly linked them.

Wendy Davis explains in her book, 'Don't Make a Fuss...' that she was effectively stonewalled by authorities, including BREs employer Telstra.

Good point though about the overall failure to link the CSK crimes to any of BREs prior rap sheet. I mean, the Huntingdale prowler and the discarded Kimono were reported as unsolved crimes in Perth for years, it's amazing no one thought to link them to CSK.

The kimono was a very well known piece of evidence, and all along BREs DNA was on it, albeit that particular technology never came into play until many years after the crimes.

 

[Wombot]

does he still have any possibility of appeal through the courts? if he reveals SS body location it pretty much locks him in as guilty, with possible more time. I think the only way he would reveal SS location is via possibility of earlier parole. At the moment he has a slim chance of some time being free (48 years old at arrest, plus 40 years before parole = possible parole at 88 years old). at the moment there is not much worth trading for the delay or removal of that parole date.

Also do we know if he is close to his parents? could be he wont discuss SS location while they are still alive as it confirms his guilt.

If he is close to his parents maybe they could appeal to him and tell him it’s the right thing to do. Yes, he will have to admit guilt but he has already pled guilty to the Karrakatta attack. So what integrity does he have left after such a horrendous crime? (Maybe he claims he only pled guilty to that to help fight the murder charges).

Any facade he maintains to anybody that he is innocent is ridiculous. Anyone close to him needs to be straight with him for the sake of another family who want to know the closure of fate of their daughter.

In fairness, maybe those close to him have tried.

 

[Fifty n Closing]

If he is close to his parents maybe they could appeal to him and tell him it’s the right thing to do. Yes, he will have to admit guilt but he has already pled guilty to the Karrakatta attack. So what integrity does he have left after such a horrendous crime? (Maybe he claims he only pled guilty to that to help fight the murder charges).

Any facade he maintains to anybody that he is innocent is ridiculous. Anyone close to him needs to be straight with him for the sake of another family who want to know the closure of fate of their daughter.

In fairness, maybe those close to him have tried.

He never had a leg to stand on and could plead nothing but guilty with respects to the Karrakatta attack in any case as the DNA samples obtained from her were compelling and directly linked him.

It would be interesting to know what if any involvement the likes of his parents have with him nowadays?