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Will not happen. Russia has spent nearly 4 years just trying to capture/hold the one area of the former USSR they actually care about.

Hey im praying it doesnt. However, while your statement is factual its not that simple.

When the USSR broke up in the late 80s and officially by 1991. Russia was severely financially weak until the mid 2010s and could barely look after themselves.

Some countries as soon as they gained independence from Russian Control joined Nato as soon as stability allowed. This was before Russia could do anything to stop it.

Instead of establishing the USSR Putin has often sought to install puppet regimes and keep the countries virtually under Russian control.

Ukraine tried to join Nato which would have blocked it from Russian control, Ukraine is a country that outright told no to Putin and being under Russian control. He invaded before they could sign. He and Russia have been outspoken stating Zelensky is an illegitimate leader and they want Ukraine to have an Election. Now why on earth would they want that to occur. Best chance to put a pro Russian puppet in place. Weakening Russia against the rest of Europe.
 
Well it makes no sense given his readership was slowly falling off the perch and the younger generations saw thru the hypocrisy.

They are a business at the end of the day and frankly the 'old man yells at cloud' style of reporting combined with 'down with the left' was almost certainly going to lose them readership long term. Basically sky news australia not to mention his newspapers were nothing but a bunch of old people trying to lecture the younger generations and by younger generations we are talking adults still. They are so out of touch its embarrassing and they contributed to the LNP disaster.

What I think got lost in Murdochs arrogance is he forgot that sometimes people actually give a shit about issues that cross the political divide and for many its not just left v right. He promoted his paper and every issue as left v right. That is an entirely black and white way to look at the world and whats worse is completely idiotic in general because who the **** lives their life that way, checking to see if its all good with the murdoch press. I would say Lachlan would run it better but he has been a hopeless moron half the time anyway.
 
This is interesting and somewhat predictable. Now this isnt Trumps fault. I have had the same observations about the USA since the financial collapse in 2007. The way the USA spends money is insane. You do have to wonder how long before everything does collapse.

 

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Hey im praying it doesnt. However, while your statement is factual its not that simple.

When the USSR broke up in the late 80s and officially by 1991. Russia was severely financially weak until the mid 2010s and could barely look after themselves.

Some countries as soon as they gained independence from Russian Control joined Nato as soon as stability allowed. This was before Russia could do anything to stop it.

Instead of establishing the USSR Putin has often sought to install puppet regimes and keep the countries virtually under Russian control.

Ukraine tried to join Nato which would have blocked it from Russian control, Ukraine is a country that outright told no to Putin and being under Russian control. He invaded before they could sign. He and Russia have been outspoken stating Zelensky is an illegitimate leader and they want Ukraine to have an Election. Now why on earth would they want that to occur. Best chance to put a pro Russian puppet in place. Weakening Russia against the rest of Europe.
Russia tries to influence pro-Russia candidates in neighbouring countries the same way the US/EU spends vast amounts trying to install pro-Western governments.

The US considers the entire world to be part of their sphere of influence, which frequently leads to meddling in far-away regions with disastrous results. This is a good article on everything they've done wrong regarding NATO and specifically Ukraine that has gotten us to this point.

 
Russia tries to influence pro-Russia candidates in neighbouring countries the same way the US/EU spends vast amounts trying to install pro-Western governments.

The US considers the entire world to be part of their sphere of influence, which frequently leads to meddling in far-away regions with disastrous results. This is a good article on everything they've done wrong regarding NATO and specifically Ukraine that has gotten us to this point.


Of course the USA meddles too much thats not the point here. People dont want to be under Russian control for a very good reason. If you have travelled to Eastern Europe around the old USSR its like going back in time. All the buildings are old, the infrastructure looks straight out of 1950s. To sum up the old USSR wasnt just a huge alliance it was mainly only in existance so Russia could drain every resource it could get its hands on at the expense of every other country. Its why it was so economically fragile to begin with. Got to remember Russia is without doubt one of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Not only are they all very rich, they get Oligarchs to spend this money overseas and invest to keep the money coming in.

I dont even know why you are defending this? are you pro russian? So if Russia decides to invade Australia you are fine with it because USA meddles to much. Am I interpreting your point here?
 
Of course the USA meddles too much thats not the point here. People dont want to be under Russian control for a very good reason. If you have travelled to Eastern Europe around the old USSR its like going back in time. All the buildings are old, the infrastructure looks straight out of 1950s. To sum up the old USSR wasnt just a huge alliance it was mainly only in existance so Russia could drain every resource it could get its hands on at the expense of every other country. Its why it was so economically fragile to begin with. Got to remember Russia is without doubt one of the most corrupt governments on the planet. Not only are they all very rich, they get Oligarchs to spend this money overseas and invest to keep the money coming in.

I dont even know why you are defending this? are you pro russian? So if Russia decides to invade Australia you are fine with it because USA meddles to much. Am I interpreting your point here?
Explaining why something happened is neither defending nor condoning it. Did you even read that essay?

Anyone who questions the wisdom of Washington warhawks about using NATO to keep Russia as a permanent enemy is accused of being 'pro-Russian' rather than anti-war.
 
Explaining why something happened is neither defending nor condoning it. Did you even read that essay?

Anyone who questions the wisdom of Washington warhawks about using NATO to keep Russia as a permanent enemy is accused of being 'pro-Russian' rather than anti-war.

I dont think you understand what anti war means. You are too focused on being called pro russian.

Anti war doesnt mean you have to blame both sides. There is only one country and one country alone at fault for the war and only one that undermines any peace process. Pretending their is 2 or 3 to back up your pro Trump narrative is rubbish of the highest order.

Putin invaded a stand alone independent country to prevent it from joining NATO and the EU. The only reason is because Putin wants to control the block. Its why he establishes puppet regimes where he can.

You do realise all those countries en mass crave western democracy. Yes the USA meddles and the USA pushing Ukraine to join Nato was the catalyst for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The issue no matter how its spun is Ukraine is its own country and are entitled to do as it wishes. So no matter your spin you are 10000% wrong if you blame anyone else than Russia for the war.
 
I dont think you understand what anti war means. You are too focused on being called pro russian.

Anti war doesnt mean you have to blame both sides. There is only one country and one country alone at fault for the war and only one that undermines any peace process. Pretending their is 2 or 3 to back up your pro Trump narrative is rubbish of the highest order.

Putin invaded a stand alone independent country to prevent it from joining NATO and the EU. The only reason is because Putin wants to control the block. Its why he establishes puppet regimes where he can.

You do realise all those countries en mass crave western democracy. Yes the USA meddles and the USA pushing Ukraine to join Nato was the catalyst for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The issue no matter how its spun is Ukraine is its own country and are entitled to do as it wishes. So no matter your spin you are 10000% wrong if you blame anyone else than Russia for the war.
Being anti-war is to understand that wars are dangerously easy to start but very difficult to end, as we are now experiencing. When even the folks trying to advance liberal democracy in post-Soviet Russia were opposing NATO expansion on the basis that it would likely cause a future war, it pays to listen.

Saying now that Putin was wrong to invade Ukraine is futile even though it's true. It happened, so what do you do about it? Putin won't withdraw because it would end his leadership and the US/EU don't care enough about Ukraine to risk their own troops in direct conflict with Russia.

Your last paragraph is a dangerously naive view, consistent with many of your posts through the lens of how you want the world to be rather than how it is. Countries with powerful neighbours are only theoretically free to do whatever they want. You could say Cuba was free to host Soviet missiles, or Mexico is free to join a military alliance with China, but in reality they are not because of the devastating US reaction.
 
Being anti-war is to understand that wars are dangerously easy to start but very difficult to end, as we are now experiencing. When even the folks trying to advance liberal democracy in post-Soviet Russia were opposing NATO expansion on the basis that it would likely cause a future war, it pays to listen.

Saying now that Putin was wrong to invade Ukraine is futile even though it's true. It happened, so what do you do about it? Putin won't withdraw because it would end his leadership and the US/EU don't care enough about Ukraine to risk their own troops in direct conflict with Russia.

Your last paragraph is a dangerously naive view, consistent with many of your posts through the lens of how you want the world to be rather than how it is. Countries with powerful neighbours are only theoretically free to do whatever they want. You could say Cuba was free to host Soviet missiles, or Mexico is free to join a military alliance with China, but in reality they are not because of the devastating US reaction.


Fair play. Probably your best post btw

So I agree its not that easy and black and white. Ive watched countless geopolitical experts outline the war and how the USA played a big part in provoking the war.

However, Ukraine is still 100% free to do what it likes within the bounds of international law. Russia invaded it so its wrong. Your inclusion of Cuba is interesting as there there was every intention of Russia using Cuba as a secret base of attack in the event of war. Its highly unlikely the USA was going to utilise NATO and simply attack Russia just because Ukraine joined.

Im beginning to think there is only one way to end the war and thats Ukraine doing a full surrender to Russia and full back into permanent Russian control. The Russian mindset has always been to never show weakness. So you can only conclude we are past any point of peace, There will be no honourable draws.

Honestly the only way I see this war ending is with Russia removing its troops like it should. It may end up being by force. Which is why so many are starting to fear ww3. I guess the question is whether the expection is Ukraine should fall on its sword and just surrender to Russian control so the world avoids a world war. Sounds great in principle but what if Putin fresh from winning Ukraine decides to go after Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia, all nato nations. My guess is this is why Trump is trying to destroy Nato so the alliances would be dead and Putin can storm back into any country he likes.

But is this ok by you? Are you happy for the world to force Ukraine to surrender, dismantle nato and giftwrap multiple countries for russian control just so it doesnt end in a world war? Which is easy to say because we are in Australia. But the exact same argument can be said if China decided to invade us and threatened world war to do it. We should just accept our fate I guess, tell the USA and Britain and the wider commonwealth we are taking one for the team, dont protect us. All fair play. **** alliances hey.
 
Russia also up to their old tricks... they really don't give a shit about anyone else.

Finnish police seize vessel suspected of damaging underwater cable | Finland | The Guardian https://share.google/4kPOFztGUmhaXs4k7
 

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China looking at new renewable technologies...


I misread the article title and thought it said 'bought' and my first thought was where can I get one of those online?

Anyways...

Climate change is such a hoax the worlds biggest polluter that the worlds far right used as the pinup as to why the world should do jack shit and its a hoax because one poorly educated scientist on the far right pay role claims it to be proving the thousands of other scientists in the actual field wrong,....lost my track of thought.

Oh right. China clearly believes in it. So now they are just back to Trump said...and what about coal mine jobs.
 
Russia also up to their old tricks... they really don't give a shit about anyone else.

Finnish police seize vessel suspected of damaging underwater cable | Finland | The Guardian https://share.google/4kPOFztGUmhaXs4k7

If they are looking to damage critical communication channels and it was earmarked for a voyage to Israel, if I read that right, then there is every chance it was going to try and cut most of the communication cables around Europe.

That could mean an attempt to create short term chaos so Russia can move its military unnoticed into areas so that it can strike targets in wider Europe and even invade its old USSR countries like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

You wouldnt bother doing it unless there is a clear plan for it to be worth it.
 
Israel up games again...

Surely don't want the return of the al-Assad regime.


The world needs more peace in 2026.

You have to question how much these days does Israel do without the go ahead from Trump. You would suspect now that Israel want to remove Palestine all together and are trying to sure up support around its border so they it can happen.
 

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Good breakdown on the Epstein files. This administration is an absolute clownshow.


Thanks- worth watching.

Clearly DOJ & FBI more intent on covering up those involved than protecting the victims.

Should be an immediate release of the remaining 7 or 10 persons of interest.

Reckon his dodgy lawyer may be one of them.
 
You have to question how much these days does Israel do without the go ahead from Trump. You would suspect now that Israel want to remove Palestine all together and are trying to sure up support around its border so they it can happen.
Israel government preventing aid agencies once again...

 
Hopefully he is on charges of crimes against humanity eventually.
Benji is a war crininal like Putin.

World would be better off without both of them.

Likely Bondi would not have occurred if Benji's government hadn't obliterated Gaza.

Hate breeds hate.
 

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