Coach Josh Carr - AFL Senior Coach

[Steve Dore]

It was caused solely by mismanagement.
Basically a one off thing.

I agree it was caused by mismanagement but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Also you seem to have missed the sarcasm of my earlier post.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Very few people actually liked Hinkley for Hinkley, the vast majority are just the sort of types who will mindlessly "back the club" regardless of what the club does.

The same people who were defending Hinkley's record on winning percentage will immediately abandon that when [PLAYERCARD]Josh Carr[/PLAYERCARD] says that Premierships are all that matters.

[PLAYERCARD]Josh Carr[/PLAYERCARD] is going to blow these people's minds.

 

[Andre]

Very few people actually liked Hinkley for Hinkley, the vast majority are just the sort of types who will mindlessly "back the club" regardless of what the club does.

The same people who were defending Hinkley's record on winning percentage will immediately abandon that when Josh Carr says that Premierships are all that matters.

Josh Carr is going to blow these people's minds.

All the supporters (well except for a handful of nutjobs) will support Carr. We're just going to be trading in 'Kenny is great, remember 2012!' from the idiots for 'Kenny built the list for Carr and deserves lots of the credit' whenever Josh does well. At least it'll be easier to ignore the latter, without Hinkley still around.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

If you watched Hinkley press conferences from 2012, he was a completely different person

Hungry for success, no excuses type and genuinely wanted the club to achieve something

 

[Steve Dore]

Very few people actually liked Hinkley for Hinkley, the vast majority are just the sort of types who will mindlessly "back the club" regardless of what the club does.

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There seemed to be quite a few Kenny Hinkley Football Club rather than Port supporters posting on here. The fact that a number have stopped posting since their beloved Kenny left suggests that they won't throw their support behind Carr.

 

[Steve Dore]

If you watched Hinkley press conferences from 2012, he was a completely different person

Hungry for success, no excuses type and genuinely wanted the club to achieve something

Agree, 2013 and 2014 Hinkley was a completely different person. 2015 was the season he started to change beginning with the preseason deckchair coaching.

He admitted to Caroline Wilson in an interview in early 2017 that his passion for the job ceased at the end of 2016. After that it was just a way to pay the bills. Didn't stop him hanging around for another nine years with Koch and his dumb board happy to keep extending his contract despite the lack of results.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

It’s so hilarious and ironic that the people who clung onto “Remember 2012? Kenny saved da club!” genuinely don’t realise that after too long, Ken Hinkley was not even a shell of the man who came through the doors in October of 2012.

We may as well be talking about two different people here.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

I've been watching a few videos on YouTube of "SANFL History" recently.

Most recently watched a bit of the interview with Neil Balme (yeah '84 still hurts but I do like to listen to an array of footy people), and he was talking about when he was appointed Norwood coach.

He said something like "things have changed to my day; these days they ask you 100 questions and get a psychologist in, etc etc".....and so I thought, yes we really are a bunch of amateur yobbos compared to the rest of the football world (but I also see the irony of Keith Thomas as a Norwood person pushing Kern through without a decent interview process).

 

[Butters and Pepper]

It’s so hilarious and ironic that the people who clung onto “Remember 2012? Kenny saved da club!” genuinely don’t realise that after too long, Ken Hinkley was not even a shell of the man who came through the doors in October of 2012.

We may as well be talking about two different people here.

Yeah,I think there are 2....Ken Hinkley,......and then there was "Kern". I think h the cartoon images of Kern and thought he was someone to emulate, about 3 or 4 years into his stint.

 

[1954]

Re the ken becoming kern bit, as has already been said kokhead and his `I want to make Ken Hinkley a 10 year coach' which came from a Sydney based house wive's tv `star' with a virtually non existent connection to the PAFC and less than zero football knowledge or what was the clubs major reason for existing was the number 1 cause of the multiple seasons of mediocre close enough is good enough BS, and the ridiculous contract extensions for a coach who was obviously well past his use by date!

Regardless of anything else he achieves I am confident [PLAYERCARD]Josh Carr[/PLAYERCARD] will coach as he played, and win, lose, or draw return the playing group to the traditional PAFC values that made the club so successful throughout its golden eras, and I expect players who don't buy into that may not be at the club in 2027!

 

[rignanv]

There's also the group of fans who aren't happy with the Carr appointment, instead preferring someone like Buckley, Simpson or Longmire. My brother in law is like that, already calling Carr a shocking coach and refusing to listen to any interviews he does. FWIW, he also highly rates Hinkley because of the number of prelims and the win/loss record. Says he is a very good coach even though he concedes he's not great. Gave an analogy where Hinkley was a Ferrari being replaced by a Nissan lol.

But I agree with what others have said, some good performances and they'll forget about Hinkley pretty quickly.

 

[Steve Dore]

.... Gave an analogy where Hinkley was a Ferrari being replaced by a Nissan lol.

....

He's close but the Ferrari is actually a clapped out Fiat 500 and the Nissan is a V8 Patrol.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

There's also the group of fans who aren't happy with the Carr appointment, instead preferring someone like Buckley, Simpson or Longmire. My brother in law is like that, already calling Carr a shocking coach and refusing to listen to any interviews he does. FWIW, he also highly rates Hinkley because of the number of prelims and the win/loss record. Says he is a very good coach even though he concedes he's not great. Gave an analogy where Hinkley was a Ferrari being replaced by a Nissan lol.

But I agree with what others have said, some good performances and they'll forget about Hinkley pretty quickly.

I was one who didn't like how he was just given the job without the club going through a proper process to find the best available. I wanted someone from outside of Hinkleys sphere of influence to reset the clubs culture. These were Valid concerns at the time.

But the messaging coming from Carr so far has been really good and I've changed my tune and willing to give his a few seasons to mold the team into what he wants. Hopefully this brings success. His messaging has been
spot on so far.

 

[240volt]

I was one who didn't like how he was just given the job without the club going through a proper process to find the best available. I wanted someone from outside of Hinkleys sphere of influence to reset the clubs culture. These were Valid concerns at the time.

But the messaging coming from Carr so far has been really good and I've changed my tune and willing to give his a few seasons to mold the team into what he wants. Hopefully this brings success. His messaging has been
spot on so far.

100% agree on everything in that post.
All the talk has been very positive since he’s taken over.
As someone posted the other day Carr has taken over with a bag of potatoes which I also strongly agree with.
Only thing I can add to what you said is he deserves a transition period to build a list.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I still think the given the job without full process is a failure no matter the outcome with Josh. There are some things you just do to be diligent. I guess its no different to an internal promotion though. Problem is we had done a lot of internal shuffling and promotions in the past and it was all horrendous.

 

[Cosmicwinduptoy24]

I still think the given the job without full process is a failure no matter the outcome with Josh. There are some things you just do to be diligent. I guess its no different to an internal promotion though. Problem is we had done a lot of internal shuffling and promotions in the past and it was all horrendous.

Is be absolutely shocked if there wasn't a box ticking exercise to see who was available externally before the board endorsed Josh for the role.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The promising thing for me is the support they have put in around Josh. [PLAYERCARD]Stuart Dew[/PLAYERCARD] has experienced premiership success at what, 4 clubs? Darren Reeves has coached premiership teams at state league level and has extensive experience through all rungs of the system, [PLAYERCARD]Luke Webster[/PLAYERCARD] maybe more on the periphery of the Eagles' last premiership but someone Josh wanted at the club. Then [PLAYERCARD]Ben Rutten[/PLAYERCARD] in the footy ops role who knows premiership success and what it takes to build a team.

And encouragingly, Josh himself has said this group has already helped shape his thinking about the way he wants Port to play. Which means he lets them talk and he listens.

As the old saying goes, it takes a village to raise a premiership. Or something like that anyway.

 

[soafraid]

The promising thing for me is the support they have put in around Josh. Stuart Dew has experienced premiership success at what, 4 clubs? Darren Reeves has coached premiership teams at state league level and has extensive experience through all rungs of the system, Luke Webster maybe more on the periphery of the Eagles' last premiership but someone Josh wanted at the club. Then Ben Rutten in the footy ops role who knows premiership success and what it takes to build a team.

And encouragingly, Josh himself has said this group has already helped shape his thinking about the way he wants Port to play. Which means he lets them talk and he listens.

As the old saying goes, it takes a village to raise a premiership. Or something like that anyway.

the contrast between this and when they left everything to the brilliant mind of kenninkley and a cast of nobodies...

 

[JimmyBC]

Whether [PLAYERCARD]Josh Carr[/PLAYERCARD] is the man long term or not is almost irrelevant to me at this point, it's a period of navigating away from the KennyFC era of mediocrity & resetting the joint back to Port Adelaide values.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If you watched Hinkley press conferences from 2012, he was a completely different person

Hungry for success, no excuses type and genuinely wanted the club to achieve something

"It's not a good effort, a good effort is when you win" - Ken Hinkley circa 2013 I think

Not to mention the nearly punching Shaun Hart in the box.

He was certainly strong and passionate early but got complacent and was allowed to hang around in his job for another decade with no real interest in winning.

 

[Addy23]

I was one who didn't like how he was just given the job without the club going through a proper process to find the best available. I wanted someone from outside of Hinkleys sphere of influence to reset the clubs culture. These were Valid concerns at the time.

But the messaging coming from Carr so far has been really good and I've changed my tune and willing to give his a few seasons to mold the team into what he wants. Hopefully this brings success. His messaging has been
spot on so far.

The club did do a process. It did the process in 2024, the result of which showed McQualter, Yze and Carr as the top 3 candidates. Club wanted a first time coach instead of experienced. But before the club acted on those results, Yze joined Richmond so there was only two left. Then between Carr and McQualter the club decided Carr was the better option and so held off firing Ken and announced a transition instead.

Funny thing is, Carr was leading candidate for both Richmond and West Coast jobs but he turned it down.

Agree the messaging has been music to the ears. But it's not just that. He's brought in some interesting pre-season training drills and also focused on skill development in early parts of the pre-season. Expect us to now concentrate more on the tactical side before the pre-season games come up.

 

[GremioPower]

Carr should take notes:

 

[Doctor Feel]

AFL HATES THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK

 

[EskimoPAFC]

There seemed to be quite a few Kenny Hinkley Football Club rather than Port supporters posting on here. The fact that a number have stopped posting since their beloved Kenny left suggests that they won't throw their support behind Carr.

They're just biding their time waiting for a good chance to say "I told you so"

 

[JimmyBC]

They're just biding their time waiting for a good chance to say "I told you so"

They'll pop up whether we lose a game by a point or 10 goals & disappear when it's the opposite.