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So Israel is our "default" security authority? Who made them Kings?
That was for cybercrime and cyberterrorism. The current media reports relate to offers of support for training on the broader issue of anti-terrorist intelligence and operations.

But that the Israeli Govt would dare to offer us such advice given it was THEIR intelligence and security failures that enabled HAMAS to conduct the cross border terrorist attack on Israeli that killed more than 1,000 men, women, and children - mostly civilians - on 7 October just demonstrates the complete lack of awareness of the pro-Israel lobby.

That 7 October attack which the IDF failed to warn against or prevent embarrassed the Netanyahu Government and his supporters and led to the Gaza invasion and reprisals that have killed more than 70,00 people including civilians, journalists and over 224 humanitarian aid workers. A state sponsored humanitarian slaughter and catastrophe which has led to growing antisemitic protests and attacks across the globe.

Frankly I would have thought the Israeli Government, and their right wing media and supporter groups in Australia, have NOTHING to offer Australia in terms of dealing with the terrorist attack in Bondi and actions and strategies to reduce the risk of future terrorist incidents in Australia. Other than maybe providing an example of how the misuse or power and acts of terror by a government against minority and protest groups can make your citizens and ex-compatriots substantially less safe across the globe.
 
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Root of most evil? Hitler, Mao and Stalin didnt commit any of their massacres in the name of religion. The first was for racial purity, the second was gross economics incompetence and the third was about maintaining power.

Us vs theming is the root source of most evil. Religion is just a subset of that.
Hitler and Trump most definitely used religious nationalism - the belief that Christianity was under threat from democracy and so the control of government must be at the centre of any fight for God - as a powerful platform to rally support for their attack on established democratic values and to rally fundamentalist Christian groups to support them and to attack those who represented a threat to them taking and retaining power.

And a key basis of their success in taking power and retaining it was to identify a rallying point to harness that religious fervour - the 1933-1938 Nuremberg Rallies for Hitler and the January 6 Capitol attacks for Trump. And religious leaders of all faiths have likewise realised that the path to greater power is to harness politics for their own goals and to combat secularism in all its forms.

There is no coincidence that Trump kept a copy of “My New Order,” a collection of Hitler speeches by his bedside table.


And as the New York Times has noted 'Religious Resentment has again become a potent recruitment tool for the hard right of politics'.

The irony is of course, that right wing Jewish organisations - representing the religion that has suffered most from Christian Nationalism over the course of the last millennia - have under Netanyahu harnessed religious nationalism as a political tool for their own benefit. Something we are seeing right now in Australia.

There is a very good documentary on this very point currently being shown on SBS which can be seen here:

 
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Frig off Israel.

If they dont like the way we are here, they can go home to Israel.

We are one we are Australian.
So we are sending Australian Jews back to Israel because Israel they offered to help train our police force.

My close friends who are police said they would love to have long arm rifles in their vehicles but no budget. Pistols are useless is a Bondi style attacks. Seems like a sensible idea for major events
 
How exactly have we pandered to Jewish people in Australia? I’m confused.
Have to agree. Poor choice of words there.

Pandering to the Israeli Government supported lobby groups is an accurate phrasing of what’s happening across the Australian msm atm.

Impt that those of us criticising the conflation of antisemitism and criticism of the actions of the Netanyahu government of Israel don’t make the same mistake.
 
So we are sending Australian Jews back to Israel because Israel they offered to help train our police force.

My close friends who are police said they would love to have long arm rifles in their vehicles but no budget. Pistols are useless is a Bondi style attacks. Seems like a sensible idea for major events
You have multiple friends?
 

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Whats your source for the 2 million?

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  • $2 million for Jewish community organisations to support victims’ families, including $1 million for Jewish House to establish a Victim Support Fund to deliver timely, culturally sensitive assistance to the Jewish Community.
 
I have 3 close friends who are police officers.
Oh, you can respond.

Common decency would be to respond to people whom provide factual responses to you, typically debunking your opinions. See above, however this is typical of you.
 
Hitler and Trump most definitely used religious nationalism - the belief that Christianity was under threat from democracy and so the control of government must be at the centre of any fight for God - as a powerful platform to rally support for their attack on established democratic values and to rally fundamentalist Christian groups to support them and to attack those who represented a threat to them taking and retaining power.

And a key basis of their success in taking power and retaining it was to identify a rallying point to harness that religious fervour - the 1933-1938 Nuremberg Rallies for Hitler and the January 6 Capitol attacks for Trump. And religious leaders of all faiths have likewise realised that the path to greater power is to harness politics for their own goals and to combat secularism in all its forms.

There is no coincidence that Trump kept a copy of “My New Order,” a collection of Hitler speeches by his bedside table.


And as the New York Times has noted 'Religious Resentment has again become a potent recruitment tool for the hard right of politics'.

The irony is of course, that right wing Jewish organisations - representing the religion that has suffered most from Christian Nationalism over the course of the last millennia - have under Netanyahu harnessed religious nationalism as a political tool for their own benefit. Something we are seeing right now in Australia.

There is a very good documentary on this very point currently being shown on SBS which can be seen here:

I never mentioned Trump. Why are you bringing trump up? And hitler was anti religious. He was a white germanic ethnic nationalist. He was skeptical of religion. He tried to publically align with german christians because many german christians were also white germanic ethnic nationalists. Hitlers hatred of jews (and africans) was based on race, not religion.
 
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Oh, you can respond.

Common decency would be to respond to people whom provide factual responses to you, typically debunking your opinions. See above, however this is typical of you.
So if this is not common decency...
You have multiple friends?
...what is this? It might be funny, but to a stranger it's not common decency.

I'd comment more widely on others but I clearly cannot comment on their posting behaviour.
 
It would be practically and legally impossible to hold a royal commission that goes anywhere near the actions or motivations of the accused killer, before his criminal proceedings are concluded, which could take years. That limitation would render the royal commission itself pointlessly premature.

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Impt to recognise that this is the opinion of Damien Sturzaker and his partners. His view needs to be considered but it's by no means a universally accepted view amongst top silks.

An announcement of a Royal Commission has already been made at the NSW Govt for example (where a criminal trial for the surviving shooter would be held) and the terms or reference and timing can be drafted to minimise any potential conflict with the criminal trial held within the same jurisdiction. This is imho entirely appropriate.

We also have the Commonwealth precedent of what happened subsequent to the March 2019 Christchurch Mosque shootings involving Australian Brenton Tarrant where formal legal proceedings against Tarrant and the NZ Government Royal Commission of Inquiry into the shootings took place during overlapping timeframes during 2019 - 2020.

Holding a Federal Royal Commission into the circumstances surrounding the Bondi terrorist attack concurrently with a criminal trial of one of the terrorists at the State level is not procedurally unsound imo - depending on the TOR of the Royal Commission.

I just think that holding just ONE RC - at state level - is the far better course of action for legal, justice, procedural and economic reasons. Not to mention the obvious fact that a Federal RC will be surrounded by party political chatter and allegations of interference etc. Considerations that will hamper any of its findings being fully implemented.
 
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