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Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

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If a country won't make me a deal, I will deal with them.

Taking on Colombia would br interesting...

www.afr.com

‘We’re in charge’ of Venezuela, Trump says

Trump threatens Colombia’s president and warns Venezuela to behave; Danish PM urges Trump to stop Greenland threats. Follow live updates.
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Eagleboy2011 said:
Crow till I die posted this on the comedy thread. It's wasted there.


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what a shocker...you are completely wrong and no doubt that Nick video this references to was debunked within hours. In fact there is legit security video of kids turning up to the day care before and after the video. But what a shocker, the narrative runs its a fraud scheme because you cant see in the windows and doors so children are protected from predators. I dont even know to watch it to understand this comedian is a ****ing desperate maga hack trying to find some sort of desperate relevance by appealing to the lowest hanging fruit. ****ing idiots honestly
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Still think this is because of drugs?

www.smh.com.au

US mission in Venezuela is just an illegal oil grab

Watch out Greenland, Colombia, Panama, Canada, the world.
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Its not a surprise. There is literally no chance Maduro wlll face any drug charges in the USA because they dont have evidence. Its fake. Just like everything Trump says as an excuse. There is more chance of Trump admitting he was on Epstein Island and fondled kids than Maduro facing actual drug charges that stick.

This was about oil and he has already threatened 2nd waves of attacks including puting Troops on the ground if Venezuela refuse to hand over the oil.

You have to wonder at what point do congress step in.

I personally think this is all about the midterms. Trump is desperate to survive so to avoid the midterm blue wave which at this point is unavoidable he is trying to lower the cost of living anyway he can. If he can flood the market with oil, the cost pressures at the checkout, day to day living costs and the pump go down and the ignorant and maga celebrate him.

But here is the truth. Venezuala didnt actually renege on anything to do with US oil. All they did decades ago is nationalise the asset. Why..so the country can earn money off it.

It would be the equivelent of Australia choosing to nationalise Iron Ore and changing direction in who we sell too, China decides screw that and all of a sudden Albo is a drug criminal in China and china demand we hand him over. While at the same time they demand a change in leadership and we must sell cheap to china.

Funny, the USA claim he is a massive drug criminal, yet not a shred of evidence has ever been produced. Id back interpol and local south american law enforcement agencies over the white house. Its not like the white house has ever lied.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Benji basically ignoring the peace plan.

Still stopping most aid getting into Gaza.

He still wants to obliterate the Palestinians.
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There was no peace plan. The ceasefire was to discuss one. There was never ever any intention of it holding. This was all about the optics on the president to win the peace prize. There is no doubt that it will come to light at some stage Hamas was bribed heavily to release the hostages. Now, Israel can basically walk through GAZA with no issues, flatten the country and with Trumps help rebuild it for Israel with American investment.
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Would have hurt his ego.... but the oil is still the biggest factor.

Perhaps someone needs to do an AI one of Putin.
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Its his only motivation. Only MAGA faithful believe this has to do with drugs because they always take Trump at his word.

Trump didnt see it coming but apparently with the current regime still in place they have told Trump to go screw himself. The USA actually isnt running anything in Venezuala they are just threatening. Thats the difference.
 
MrKK said:
I also condemn the US action in Venezuela but let's not pretend you are against this on principle - if some foreign power did the same to Trump, Putin or Orban you'd be dancing in the streets.
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Lets get one thing straight - if someone went in and took Trump, that would not be acceptable in any form, he win his election fairly and squarely (even tho he still refuses to accept the 2020 result).

Now if someone took the other two, Putin I wouldn’t have a problem and why - because he actually declared war on a sovereign nation (even tho the war has been going on since 2014) with no valid reason, Ukraine didn’t attack Russia. With Orban, he is a minnow who no-one really cares about other than Russia. He has held elections but the vailidity are in question so if someone took him, well would anyone really know or care.

You left out Bibi, who has won democratically held elections and therefore remains in power. Would I like to see him charged with crimes against humanity? Absolutely.

You need to understand those who have held democratically held elections and those who are dictators.
 

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Eagleboy2011 said:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia is defending Maduro. I'm expecting Moogle and Kirky to be pro-Putin soon. ;)
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You fool.

The removal of Maduro from power is fine (he was not democratically elected therefore should not hold the position of President) however the mechanism to do the removal is what is in question. Can you not see the difference?
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Benji basically ignoring the peace plan.

Still stopping most aid getting into Gaza.

He still wants to obliterate the Palestinians.
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And that has always been his goal - he has publicly stated that there will not be a two state solution.

Needs to be charged with crimes against humanity.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
It's about oil, oil & more oil...

www.theguardian.com

Dense, sticky and heavy: why Venezuelan crude oil appeals to US refineries

South American nation’s tar-like oil is what many Gulf coast facilities were built for but ramping up production to 3m barrels a day will be a long game
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It is about oil however listening to any O&G experts it will take around to 2030 to get it back to what it was before 2003 when it was producing 3m barrels per day (currently around 750k - 1m barrels per day).

Any oil company going in has to spend billions to get the fields up to scratch given they have been allowed to deteriorate over the past two decades.
 
kirky said:
It is about oil however listening to any O&G experts it will take around to 2030 to get it back to what it was before 2003 when it was producing 3m barrels per day (currently around 750k - 1m barrels per day).

Any oil company going in has to spend billions to get the fields up to scratch given they have been allowed to deteriorate over the past two decades.
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There is currently only 1 USA oil company producing from Venezuela... given the sanctions.

An unstable government isn't exactly the best investment conditions.

But this gives you an idea of how much oil they have...

 

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