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n4sir said:
He should talk to Bibi about manipulating votes after the last 2 years of Eurovision contests... warning, thread drift ahead.

Israel has been caught out (and actually admitted to) manipulating the votes for western countries they have been able to get to, to get the best results. They say through successful marketing... it's more likely just bot-voting.

SBS proved it themselves two years ago when they put up their own recorded their own online vote results for the Australian vote... which had Israel absolutely dead last. The official Eurovision televote was a maximum 12 votes to Israel. So this was supposed to be the same people watching at 4am in the morning bothering to do a fun vote on the SBS telecast? Bullshit.

Last year was pretty close to the same, but SBS didn't publicly say it in a summary: watching live, Israel was in the bottom two in the live feedback votes for all Australians in the coverage... but they somehow got maximum votes at the same time from the same people watching it?

I would love to know the number of votes recorded versus the actual ratings for SBS during the live telecast to see if it's the gigantic fraud I suspect it is, but I think we all know this will never be known.

The Government (who fund SBS) should already know this, which is one reason why I think we shouldn't compete at Eurovision.

We're not part of Europe. The competition is rigged. The last competition, we did not even get to the final because a non-European nation (you know who) rigged it... by altering our own country's televote. Plus those same televotes are then being used by that same said nation to rig the competition further, for a political purpose, which just happened to do with them committing a Genocide.
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Israel are always the victim. Never question, if you do you are promoting anti-semetism and hate speech. Its never there fault.
 
found this in one of my feeds

I’ve been watching an absolutely heroic amount of pearl-clutching lately from people who insist that J.D. Vance would somehow be “worse” than Trump once Trump’s inevitable political and biological expiration arrives.

Let’s get something straight: it has never been about Trump, not for one second.
Trump is just the mascot. The real story is the people who finally saw themselves in him and felt validated by what they saw.

I actually believe most of them will drift away when the cult collapses, like embarrassed fans of a one-hit wonder. Many of them will swear they were never really into him at all. The MAGA amnesia is going to be epic.
I used to wonder how it was possible that Trump could have won in 2016 and then again in 2024, given how emotionally toxic, morally vacant, and psychologically mangled he is.

I don’t wonder anymore.
I think he won for that exact reason.

He wasn’t a candidate. He was a mirror.

If you were a racist, you found your guy.
If you were a misogynist, you found your guy.
If money was your only religion, you found your guy.
If your heart was armored shut, you found your guy.
If you mocked disabled people, you found your guy.
If you hated intelligent people, you found your guy.
If you were a rapist, you found your guy.
If you enjoyed golden showers with Russian sex workers, you found your guy.
If you’d done absolutely nothing to confront your emotional wreckage, you found your guy.
If you were a serial cheater, you found your guy.
If you were a perpetual bankrupt, you found your guy.
If you stiffed honest workers, you found your guy.
If you were a conman, you found your guy.
If you mocked people’s appearances, you found your guy.
If you longed for a toxic Daddy, you found your guy.
If you were dissociated and disembodied, you found your guy.
If you were unconscionable in every economic dealing, you found your guy.
If you lied as naturally as breathing, you found your guy.
If you’d never eaten a green vegetable, you found your guy.
If you were a white supremacist, you found your guy.
If your ego contained a hole so large not even the presidency could fill it, you found your guy.
If you were a sociopath who cared not one molecule about other humans, you found your guy.

If he had only two of these traits, he never would have won. He won because he had hundreds of them, and millions of people recognized themselves in at least one.

This has never been about Trump. It has always been about the people who finally had their worst instincts validated.
Trump didn’t create the cruelty, he licensed it. He handed out permission slips for hate.

He is merely a symptom of a far deeper disease: collective toxicity.

If there is one sentence that explains Trump’s power, it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.”
That’s the part that should chill the spine.

Who knew that tens of millions of Americans were thinking such unconscionable things about their fellow citizens? Who knew how many white men felt so threatened by women and challenged by minorities that they were ready to torch democracy to feel big again? Who knew that after decades of apparent progress on race and gender, so many people were living in seething resentment, waiting for a demagogue to legitimize their worst selves and convert their bitterness into political power?

Perhaps we were living in a fool’s paradise.
We aren’t anymore."

– Michael Jochum,
Not Just a Drummer: Reflections on Art, Politics, Dogs, and the Human Condition.
 
adelaidecrows said:
did you read the article

It has literally nothing to do with Walz, he dropped out so he can specifically target the fraud. He isnt actually being invest....oh did you just assume he was...hahahahaha
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He dropped out because it happened under his watch....the buck stops with him.
 

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Mutineer said:
He dropped out because it happened under his watch....the buck stops with him.
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The situation is fluid. It's exploded with the Nick Shirley investigation. Walz has to appear before a congressional select committee in February. It will probably require a subpoena to get him to comply as he is refusing to come in voluntarily. What does he have to hide?

$9B+ in fraud over many years, and the governor didn't have any idea it was going on. Yeah sure
 
adelaidecrows said:
Yes but you thought he was involved. It's fine. EB surely did. Just have to see his reply to see you gained a clueless fanboy
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Like all lefties you think you are the only intelligent one here.
I've got news for you bud you're not and you're no better or worse than anyone else in that regard. Just because someone doesn't see things through your personal prism doesn't make you any smarter than them.
 
adelaidecrows said:
did you read the article

It has literally nothing to do with Walz, he dropped out so he can specifically target the fraud. He isnt actually being invest....oh did you just assume he was...hahahahaha
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God it must difficult getting out of the bed each day if one can’t read articles correctly. No wonder him and others like him are MAGA followers.
 
Mutineer said:
Like all lefties you think you are the only intelligent one here.
I've got news for you bud you're not and you're no better or worse than anyone else in that regard. Just because someone doesn't see things through your personal prism doesn't make you any smarter than them.
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I don't think I'm smarter at all. Someone can be a really smart person but still make bad decisions and vice versa. But your reply is a strange way to admit you didn't read the article.
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I actually respect your posting. Always have. My reply was more tongue in cheek.
 
Mr_Moogle said:
Trump and his cronies are talking about annexing the territory of a NATO ally and upending the post WW2 world order. You would have to be completely ****ed in the head to support him at this point.
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With the threat of war from Europe you can only wonder exactly where congress is and why there are no emergency sessions taking place.
 

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Mr_Moogle said:
Trump and his cronies are talking about annexing the territory of a NATO ally and upending the post WW2 world order. You would have to be completely ****ed in the head to support him at this point.
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Greenland to the USA won't happen, as all hell would happen with the EU.
 
kirky said:
God it must difficult getting out of the bed each day if one can’t read articles correctly. No wonder him and others like him are MAGA followers.
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MAGA is about simple slogans... not so much the detail or even if the slogan has any semblance of truth.
 
kirky said:
Don’t say won’t we aren’t dealing with a normal human being - this is all about getting territory and him feeding his ego.
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Trump won't just be taking on the Danes, he will be taking on the EU. All he'll would break loose if he tried to take Greenland.

Would be far more complicated than kidnapping the Venezuelan president.
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Trump won't just be taking on the Danes, he will be taking on the EU. All he'll would break loose if he tried to take Greenland.

Would be far more complicated than kidnapping the Venezuelan president.
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He doesn’t care at all - everything to him is a sugar hit. What is happening to Venezuela now? He has already moved on and it will be Cuba not Greenland.
 
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adelaidecrows said:
I don't think I'm smarter at all. Someone can be a really smart person but still make bad decisions and vice versa. But your reply is a strange way to admit you didn't read the article.
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I actually respect your posting. Always have. My reply was more tongue in cheek.
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I must have missed the wink emoji ;) huh?
 
kirky said:
He doesn’t care at all - everything to him is a sugar hit. What is happening to Venezuela now? He has already moved on and it will be Cuba not Greenland.
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He hasn’t moved on yet, as still to deal with their oil.

The oil companies are not keen, so hope the US taxpayers is happy to spend billions on investments in Venezuela...
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
To be clear the USA have broken international law... though it's bit rich that Russia are the #1 country complaining.

theconversation.com

Were the US actions in Venezuela legal under international law? An expert explains

It is hard to see how this can be anything other than a ‘use of force’ under article 2(4) of the United Nations Charter.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
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Kane McGoodwin said:
Another food article explaining how Trump's actions are illegal & basically he sees himself as the President of the World & can do what he pleases.

It really sets a dangerous precedent.

www.aljazeera.com

What the US did in Venezuela normalises power grabs: Expert

US skirted international law and its own political limits in its operation in Venezuela, expert says.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Trump’s actions in Venezuela may well be illegal but who’s actually going to stop him?

All laws (domestic and international) if you test them to their limits are fundamentally backed by violence.

In an international context, a law only exists to the extent that a country or group of countries is willing to:
  • commit acts of violence to enforce it, or
  • internally regulate themselves through their own domestic checks and balances.
It's why Netanyahu and Putin, who both have arrest warrants issued against them, are yet to face trial by the International Criminal Court. They and their allies are too powerful to be held accountable externally, and too corrupt and authoritarian to held accountable internally.

I strongly suspect Trump has negotiated a deal with Putin and Xi not to intervene in Venezuela, and I’m sure we’ll find out soon what that was in exchange for. Which other countries (either individually or collectively) actually have the military and economic power to hold America to account?

In terms of the US internally regulating and holding its own President accountable, nothing will happen until he is no longer in the chair, if ever. Trump has shown how little regard he has for the U.S. constitution, congress, the senate and the courts unless they are taking the knee and supporting his quest for personal wealth and power. Impeachment through Congress and the Senate is now evidently a pointless exercise in partisan loyalty rather than a test of commitment to universal principles and rule of law.
 
ADL9798 said:
Trump’s actions in Venezuela may well be illegal but who’s actually going to stop him?

All laws (domestic and international) if you test them to their limits are fundamentally backed by violence.

In an international context, a law only exists to the extent that a country or group of countries is willing to:
  • commit acts of violence to enforce it, or
  • internally regulate themselves through their own domestic checks and balances.
It's why Netanyahu and Putin, who both have arrest warrants issued against them, are yet to face trial by the International Criminal Court. They and their allies are too powerful to be held accountable externally, and too corrupt and authoritarian to held accountable internally.

I strongly suspect Trump has negotiated a deal with Putin and Xi not to intervene in Venezuela, and I’m sure we’ll find out soon what that was in exchange for. Which other countries (either individually or collectively) actually have the military and economic power to hold America to account?

In terms of the US internally regulating and holding its own President accountable, nothing will happen until he is no longer in the chair, if ever. Trump has shown how little regard he has for the U.S. constitution, congress, the senate and the courts unless they are taking the knee and supporting his quest for personal wealth and power. Impeachment through Congress and the Senate is now evidently a pointless exercise in partisan loyalty rather than a test of commitment to universal principles and rule of law.
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The UN is a toothless tiger.

Perhaps we should be revising the role of the UN...
 
kirky said:
If the Democrats win the midterms it will happen.

The irony in all what is happening is 250 years ago the US declared independence from the King that ruled their nation at the time.
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Assuming Musk hasn't rigged it AGAIN.
 

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