Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[TheSausageDog]

Which world leaders don’t try to influence matters beyond their borders! Especially if their people’s safety or existence is threatened.

Nobody is outlawing criticism, but stick to facts, proven facts, not weird analogies that don’t stand up to reality and are simply the continuation of a cruel vilification of an entire people.

I find this notion the poster made that you're replying to as intellectually dishonest.
It's kind of like a recognition from the poster of the challenges of a globalist view of the world and that we must protect our borders from nefarious actors.

The people who lambast Israel on a daily basis almost always omit facts, distort truths, to create a distorted view of the world to fit whatever agenda said activist is pushing. They will almost never mention how Iran, China, Russia are nefariously infiltrating politics in Australia. The intellectual dishonesty displayed in this thread and other realms of the internet is an added bonus for a Royal Commission as it will expose these people along the way.

 

[King Patty]

The intellectual dishonesty displayed in this thread and other realms of the internet is an added bonus for a Royal Commission as it will expose these people along the way.

your hoping it will, but you can't be confident it will surely.

Royal commission judge appointed is apparently left wing.
She lives in inner Sydney and has been a LGBT and human rights activist.

It would be like getting Eddie McGuire to Audit the Collingwood football club.

 

[ferball]

I’m glad you asked. It’s a shame, but revealing, that you have to have it explained. The trope is that boogeymen Jews control everything covertly behind the scenes. This “cartoon” is living proof that the trope is still believed.

Beginning in the 1920s, Nazi propagandists promoted the antisemitic myth that Jews were engaged in a massive conspiracy to take over the world. This false notion alleged that “international Jewry” used various people and groups as part of a plan for global conquest. At the time, an octopus extending its tentacles over the globe was a common visual metaphor for this myth.

Sound familiar?

The myth persists in modern times with “the Jewish lobby” supposedly influencing everything and getting unfair preferential advantage in all spheres.

So yes, the world is mad if it still believes this, and plenty do! Including Greens senator, Jenny Leong, who not long ago referred to “Jewish tentacles everywhere” - which she had to withdraw.

The British Zionists that helped Jewish Zionists (who were often also British,) plan Zionism all supported it because they believed in those stupid conspiracy theories as well and wanted to get the Jews somewhere other than Europe.

 

[faible]

your hoping it will, but you can't be confident it will surely.

Royal commission judge appointed is apparently left wing.
She lives in inner Sydney and has been a LGBT and human rights activist.

It would be like getting Eddie McGuire to Audit the Collingwood football club.

I’m not sure the argument that she’s biased because she’s a lesbian and believes in human rights is quite the compelling one you think it is.

 

[ferball]

I hope so. About time, she’s evil.

Does she burn children alive in hospitals?

 

[faible]

Does she burn children alive in hospitals?

Nah, worse. She believes Palestinians shouldn’t be the victims of war crimes and crimes against humanity!

 

[Gough]

I'm not saying she won't do her job, but given Albanese has attended every marti grah, expect she would look after him if she could.

Anti semetism bad, casual homophobia okay.

 

[faible]

I'm not saying she won't do her job, but given Albanese has attended every marti grah, expect she would look after him if she could.

Again, really not the compelling argument you think you’re making.

 

[jathanas]

This is a thread about murdered Jewish Australians.

Turning it into a Gaza debate or a meditation on the history of Zionism feels badly misplaced.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

This is a thread about murdered Jewish Australians.

Turning it into a Gaza debate or a meditation on the history of Zionism feels badly misplaced.

agree. this shit has been going on since page 1

These shooters supported ISIS, which is actually an enemy of Hamas. This has NOTHING to do with Hamas/Palestine/Israel conflict.

The problem is big footy is full of bellends who doesn't realise the difference.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I hope so. About time, she’s evil.

“Evil.”

Righty-oh.

 

[Gavin Excell]

agree. this shit has been going on since page 1

These shooters supported ISIS, which is actually an enemy of Hamas. This has NOTHING to do with Hamas/Palestine/Israel conflict.

The problem is big footy is full of bellends who doesn't realise the difference.

I get that about the shooters, but the scope of the RC suggests this is where it dares to tread in examining the rise of anti semitism

What happens if there is a link found between Gaza bombing and unease in community about Israel's actions?

 

[jathanas]

Well if you go and delete all your innaccurate comments about 20thC Jewish-Arab violence pre dating Zionism I'll delete all the ones that I made to counter your false narrative.

Deal?

Done. If I've left anything behind, it's unintentional.

 

[MPMonkeys]

I get that about the shooters, but the scope of the RC suggests this is where it dares to tread in examining the rise of anti semitism

What happens if there is a link found between Gaza bombing and unease in community about Israel's actions?

What does that have to do with a 10yo girl being shot in cold blood at a religious festival or Jewish businesses in Australia being blacklisted or the need for security guards at Jewish schools and events.

 

[ferball]

Done. If I've left anything behind, it's unintentional.

Same here.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I find this notion the poster made that you're replying to as intellectually dishonest.
It's kind of like a recognition from the poster of the challenges of a globalist view of the world

Give us your definition of “globalist” please.

and that we must protect our borders from nefarious actors.

I do think that. No argument. Why do you think that position is mutually exclusive of a (yet to be defined) “globalist” viewpoint?

The people who lambast Israel on a daily basis almost always omit facts, distort truths, to create a distorted view of the world to fit whatever agenda said activist is pushing.

Kinda like what the people who support Israel do.

They will almost never mention how Iran, China, Russia are nefariously infiltrating politics in Australia.

Purely your jaundiced take. Plenty of posters on here, for example, criticise Israel, and criticise Iran, China and Russia.

 

[Gavin Excell]

What does that have to do with a 10yo girl being shot in cold blood at a religious festival or Jewish businesses in Australia being blacklisted or the need for security guards at Jewish schools and events.

That's part of the intention of the RC isn't it

 

[Gavin Excell]

What does that have to do with a 10yo girl being shot in cold blood at a religious festival or Jewish businesses in Australia being blacklisted or the need for security guards at Jewish schools and events.

Just addressing your question more fully.

Below are the proposed terms of the RC:

tackling antisemitism by:
(i) investigating the nature and prevalence of antisemitism in
institutions and society, and examining its key drivers in
Australia, including religious and ideologically motivated
extremism and radicalisation, including in the lead up to the
antisemitic Bondi terrorist attack on 14 December 2025;
(ii) identifying any opportunities to enhance the responses of
governments to antisemitism including, but not limited to, best
practice approaches to de-radicalisation and strengthening social
cohesion;
(iii) making recommendations to counteract and prevent
manifestations of antisemitism;
(iv) assessing the impact of antisemitism on the daily life of Jewish
Australians including with respect to security, physical and
mental health and wellbeing;


Part i of the above is seemingly pretty broad given the use of the word "including" in relation to the attack.

 

[1990crow]

 

[RCAB]

I hope so. About time, she’s evil.

Am i getting this right, you're making a blanket statement that she's evil, an Austrlian author and academic but with no evidence, why?

Has she said anthing worse than saying Zionism is a racist, illegitimate, settler colonial project which is comparable to apartheid or white supremacy? This is all true. Are you spporting illegal Zionist occupation and white supremacy, Dogs?

I think Bigfooty knows that you have yet to condemn the NZ mass murder who killed 51 innocent people, I don't think you've ever mentioned him as "evil." You're post is also getting cheered on, where does that leave you Dogs_R_Us?

 

[ElectricG]

What happens if there is a link found between Gaza bombing and unease in community about Israel's actions?

Well then that doesn’t bode very well does it?

 

[RCAB]

This is a thread about murdered Jewish Australians.

Turning it into a Gaza debate or a meditation on the history of Zionism feels badly misplaced.

That's literally the worst comment I've ever seen in this thread.

 

[big_e]

Is this how it’s going to be now?

Adelaide festival dumps prominent academic Randa Abdel-Fattah over ‘cultural sensitivity’ concerns after Bondi attack

Abdel-Fattah accuses the board of ‘blatant and shameless’ anti-Palestinian racism and censorship, as other authors pull out in solidarity

www.theguardian.com

42 others have withdrawn from the Adelaide Writers Festival in support of Abdel-Fattah.

 

[1990crow]

This is a thread about murdered Jewish Australians.

Turning it into a Gaza debate or a meditation on the history of Zionism feels badly misplaced.

That's literally the problem though

 

[RCAB]

That's literally the problem though

The comment for me is extremely dangerous for both Jews and Muslims. It tries to appeal to being moderate and resonable by the langauge it uses, by suggesting that "the Gaza conflict is misplaced."

He completley ignored the previous talking point in the thread (convienently) about how anti-semitism and attacks on Jews trends up when Israel increases their militray actions.

He completely ignores what a Jew Scholar and Rabbi says. There's an agenda here.