Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[Gralin]

Ok, cool well that’s hate speech.

What do you consider to be the definition of hate speech?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Ok, cool well that’s hate speech.

It quite explicitly is not.

 

[Gralin]

"creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to fear violence"

Do you think something narrowed down to the quoted would unduly impinge on our rights?

A Better question would be do we need a new federal offence or does existing legislation if used properly actually cover this?

Because I tend to not believe we don't currently have scope to enforce this already in this country

 

[Carringbush2010]

People on this forum have called for the annihilation of Israel.. that’s hate speech is it not?

Really?

 

[10571z]

Really?

Really what?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Really what?

You've read posts on this forum calling for violence against Israelis?

 

[10571z]

What do you consider to be the definition of hate speech?

I mean sure its more targeted to racial and religious groups but MAGA is a religion soooo.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I can't believe this is coming to our shores.

Lucy Connolly released from prison after race hate post on X

Lucy Connolly is released from HMP Peterborough after receiving a 31-month sentence in October.

www.bbc.com

31 months prison for posting

"Connolly, from Northampton, called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers."

WELCOME TO ALBOS AUSTRALIA!

Umm, setting fire to hotels housing people for the purposes of setting fire to the people in it is definitely inciting violence.

You'd probs get done for that now in oz.

 

[leon123]

I mean sure its more targeted to racial and religious groups but MAGA is a religion soooo.

Are you serious

 

[10571z]

You've read posts on this forum calling for violence against Israelis?

Yes

 

[10571z]

Are you serious

That MAGA is a religion, clearly not.

 

[Gralin]

I mean sure its more targeted to racial and religious groups but MAGA is a religion soooo.

So you admit you're aware it's not hate speech

 

[Rob R]

Western civilisation is based on the theft of other people's stuff and the idea that the people doing it deserve to do it cos they're somehow better than everyone else.

like basically every civilisation. it's called being human.

 

[10571z]

Umm, setting fire to hotels housing people for the purposes of setting fire to the people in it is definitely inciting violence.

You'd probs get done for that now in oz.

People literally post "Burn down the mosques or deport them all" on random Facebook accounts after Bondi. Do you think they deserve 3 years in prison?

 

[10571z]

So you admit you're aware it's not hate speech

Sure, in the current meaning of the term the call for an individual assassination is not.

 

[Gralin]

Sure, in the current meaning of the term the call for an individual assassination is not.

Well then

 

[Rob R]

Greg Moriarty fits that bill.

Yes but has been a disaster as Secretary of the defence department, so shouldn't be getting another government job especially a promotion.

 

[Rob R]

People literally post "Burn down the mosques or deport them all" on random Facebook accounts after Bondi. Do you think they deserve 3 years in prison?

The first one should be jail time as it calls for violence. Second one whilst clearly racist and wrong is free speech.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I mean sure its more targeted to racial and religious groups but MAGA is a religion soooo.

Was Hitler a religious figure as well?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Yes

I haven't seen any, I seen hatred of the IDF and Netanyahoo, but haven't seen anything directly calling for violence against Israeli's.

 

[Carringbush2010]

People literally post "Burn down the mosques or deport them all" on random Facebook accounts after Bondi. Do you think they deserve 3 years in prison?

Yep, coz they're inciting violence as in burn down the mosques.

 

[QuietB]

You think 31 months jail time is fair for posting 2 lines on social media?

If you get shot and killed for reversing your car 31 months for a social media post seems about right

 

[nut]

I can't believe this is coming to our shores.

Lucy Connolly released from prison after race hate post on X

Lucy Connolly is released from HMP Peterborough after receiving a 31-month sentence in October.

www.bbc.com

31 months prison for posting

"Connolly, from Northampton, called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers."

WELCOME TO ALBOS AUSTRALIA!

What if a bloke called Mohammed called all Jews to be deported and set fire to a synagogue?

Would you be ok with that?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Sure, in the current meaning of the term the call for an individual assassination is not.

Not sure, but I think there's already a law for directly threatening individuals.

 

[ferball]

I agree with the last point.

I semi agree with the others.

The best result is the Greens and cross bench approve the most narrow yet universally applied version of this "creates a new federal offence making it illegal to publicly promote or incite racial hatred where the conduct would cause a reasonable person to feel intimidated, harassed or fear violence" in a way that would neuter the LNPs bullshit.

Doesn't that already exist?