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Sussan Ley - how loong?

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How long will Sussan Ley be Liberal leader?

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Pretty biassed view of the Greens. Are you Albo's Chief of Staff?

I just checked the Greens website. Sure "Free Palestine" gets a mention but your suggestion of fixation on Palestine to the exclusion of everything else is not backed up by the facts. With respect to policy, tax reform, cost of living, housing and climate are all more prominent.

They do have quite a few recent media releases on matters of direct or indirect relevance to Palestine but that's more driven by responses to current events like Bondi and the Adelaide Writers Festival than being a one issue party.

You suggest News Corp is easy on the Greens? Yep Rupert's sure given them an easy ride over the last 25 years. You must be living on Mars.

At least you have the reasonableness to suggest Albo does something about gambling. The major parties have both been disgraceful in their servitude to the gambling lobby.
My view is based on being quite vocally abused by Greens voters in my union for saying I support a two state solution and support resolutions to that effect but afterwards can we please move our attention to improving conditions.

Making the Gaza issue so key to the Greens messaging has pushed a lot of people away from them towards Labor who acknowledge the issue, changed their position on recognition but then maintained a commitment to a two state solution but also knowing as a small voice on this issue move focus to local concerns. The Greens politicians make it a purity test. Im not saying Rupert goes easy on the Greens, im saying if News Corp put their full weight on the Greens rather than chasing after a moderate Albo they would have actually put sowed a narrative that would have actually stuck.

The Liberals view that Likud can do no wrong is reprehensible. The way to tackle religious hatred is to adopt a more nuanced stance on issues. Being hardline one way or the other just sows hate on the other side. The Liberals must hang their heads in shame, when presented with a chance to build a better country they try to score cheap political points that blow up in their face.

Ley's failure as leader is terrifying as it opens the door for some hardline nuffy to be handed a megaphone to spout their bile as leader of the opposition, even if they have stuff all numbers in parliament.

The real failure is Littleproud, his job is to keep the Coalition together so regional voices have a say in a future government.
 
Pollster Kos Samaras outlining why the Coalition is dead in the water and bleeding support from their once steadfast conservative, non-university educated 'battlers' to One Nation. Ley is just the latest and worst in a conga line of culture war warriors posing as Liberal leaders that made it so..

For decades, working-class conservatives voted Liberal on the promise of aspiration, that economic growth would create opportunity for those willing to work. That promise has curdled. Housing is unattainable. Job security has evaporated. The wages of work no longer purchase the life that work was supposed to provide.And for older, non-university educated voters in regional Australia, the situation is starker still. Living standards have been actively declining.

These aren’t people anxious about falling behind, they’ve already fallen behind, and they know it.

The towns they live in have fewer services, fewer opportunities, and less connection to the prosperity concentrated in the capital cities. They did everything the old compact asked of them, and the economy stopped holding up its end of the deal.

For these voters, the Liberal Party has nothing material to offer these voters anymore.


So they double down on culture war grievance instead. And a significant portion of them has responded by abandoning a party they have voted for decades, not because One Nation has a credible economic program, but because grievance politics at least acknowledges that something has gone wrong.






….. and not one political party is actually acknowledging What is wrong…

And it’s How money is created through private loans.

It’s private debt that is sinking people, not government debt.

Our economy is reliant on more loans being created, through the housing Ponzi scheme.
 
Well given this morning's news with the Nationals saying that they cannot be in an agreement with the Liberals while Sussan Ley is in charge, Hastie; Price and Taylor are not doubt getting their knives out.

Meanwhile, Albo who has managed to not only put the attention back on the Liberals division, but has also managed to end the Coalition agreement and probably has also ended Sussan Ley's career:
Victory Albo GIF by GIPHY News
 

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abbott, credlin, newscorp & 2gb killed the coalition.

There's so much truth in this. The Abbott/Credlin era really pivoted the Coalition to the far-right populism style of Sky News politics and it's ****ed them.
 
Disgrace.



How's the performance here given the crisis her party is in? This has all been very predictable, she's just been trying to buy herself another couple of weeks with performances like this for months now.

Should have said "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" the first time Littleproud left: it would have been a short-term hit for the uneasy (untenable) truce, but much better for the Liberals in years to come. But as with practically everything else she's been given a dud hand and proceeded to play it as badly as possible. She's completely out of her depth.
 
How's the performance here given the crisis her party is in? This has all been very predictable, she's just been trying to buy herself another couple of weeks with performances like this for months now.

Should have said "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" the first time Littleproud left: it would have been a short-term hit for the uneasy (untenable) truce, but much better for the Liberals in years to come. But as with practically everything else she's been given a dud hand and proceeded to play it as badly as possible. She's completely out of her depth.

Is she an outstanding Opposition Leader? Thoughts? Plenty like her.
 
The Australian is now reporting that at least five Liberals from the Moderates and Conservative factions agree that it's time for Ley to go.

By this time next week IMO, it will be Hastie, Price, or Taylor running the show
 
Is she an outstanding Opposition Leader? Thoughts? Plenty like her.

Well, she's been at the wheel for the decimation of the Coalition, twice now. Of itself that's not necessarily a bad thing, but to hop back in with them, only for things to fall apart again so quickly does not reflect well on her.

If she'd played it right, granted I still don't think she'd have survived as leader, but there's a chance she could have been looked on very favourably in years to come, for having the courage to split an unworkable alliance and set the foundations for the future of the Liberal Party to be a viable government in future elections.

I'm actually not sure if that's a rhetorical question. I can't think of how anyone could consider her reign as outstanding in any way.
 

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I wonder how Hastie will explain away voting for the hate speech laws?

He saved the country from an even worse law based on agreement between the ALP and the Greens... apparently.


In a month's time... it'll be an important tick that he demonstrated a willingness to stand for unity with the previous leader Ley despite opposing the bill when he's asking to be made leader of the party.
 
The Australian is now reporting that at least five Liberals from the Moderates and Conservative factions agree that it's time for Ley to go.

By this time next week IMO, it will be Hastie, Price, or Taylor running the show

Hastie would by far be the leading choice from the public, I feel like we've barely seen Taylor since May. But all we keep hearing about is how many people in the party he's put offside, so I think it would be interesting. My money would be on Taylor.
 
Hastie would by far be the leading choice from the public, I feel like we've barely seen Taylor since May. But all we keep hearing about is how many people in the party he's put offside, so I think it would be interesting. My money would be on Taylor.
Taylor is the only person who hasn't been kicked or forced out of the shadow leadership team, so I'm guessing the Moderates are more likely to vote for him.
 
Taylor is the only person who hasn't been kicked or forced out of the shadow leadership team, so I'm guessing the Moderates are more likely to vote for him.
I suspect Taylor couldn't survive the close scrutiny that comes with being the LOTO, he's got plenty of skeletons in his closet and apart from talking a half decent game is a mostly unimpressive performer.
 
The Australian is now reporting that at least five Liberals from the Moderates and Conservative factions agree that it's time for Ley to go.

By this time next week IMO, it will be Hastie, Price, or Taylor running the show
I wonder if any of them would make it to the next election
 

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The Australian is now reporting that at least five Liberals from the Moderates and Conservative factions agree that it's time for Ley to go.

By this time next week IMO, it will be Hastie, Price, or Taylor running the show
Please let it be Price - I don't ask for much but please let me have this :praying:
 
To be fair, she was only an interim leader (the sacrificial type) warming the seat for some other rwnj to take her place when political expediency warranted it... Her use by date is now
 
To be fair, she was only an interim leader (the sacrificial type) warming the seat for some other rwnj to take her place when political expediency warranted it... Her use by date is now

I reckon deep down she knew that too, she would of known that the Right wing side of the Liberal party were always going come after her. If a leadership challenge does happen and she is voted out, she can always go back to Aviation if she she wants out of politics. She does have a current commercial pilot's license.
 

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