A final drawn after extra time: a footy disaster waiting to happen

[HTT]

Don’t know why it’s taken two complete overhauls to get to a ‘solution’ that still isn’t really ideal - 5min each way would be much better than 3.

Literally could’ve just changed the GF to be the same as the extra time system we had for all other finals and be done with it. Instead we have a bunch of heroes in charge that would rather leave an easy legacy than do the hard, sometimes thankless work to actually improve the game over the long term.

 

[ash_1050]

Don’t know why it’s taken two complete overhauls to get to a ‘solution’ that still isn’t really ideal - 5min each way would be much better than 3.

If you've played in a footy grand final and have anything left in the tank at the end of the match you're doing it wrong. Players give their absolute all during the game, 5 minutes each way would effectively equate to another 15 minutes of poor quality game time as the players are absolutely stuffed.

 

[HTT]

If you've played in a footy grand final and have anything left in the tank at the end of the match you're doing it wrong. Players give their absolute all during the game, 5 minutes each way would effectively equate to another 15 minutes of poor quality game time as the players are absolutely stuffed.

I dunno about you but I found the 15min of extra time in the Port v WC final pretty good quality.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

A reminder that thankfully, this was changed.

No more golden score: League changes finals tie-break rule

The unused 'golden score' tie-breaker for finals will never be used after the AFL Commission changed the rule

www.afl.com.au

In the event of a tied Finals Series Match, the following procedure shall apply:

1. Goal umpires confirm scores are identical;
2. There is a six-minute break;
3. Teams change ends;
4. Three minutes of Additional Time shall be played, plus time-on;
5. At the end of the first Additional Time period, the siren will sound and teams will immediately change ends without a break;
6. The ball will be bounced (or thrown up) in the centre and a further three minutes of play (plus time-on) will commence;
7. At the conclusion of this period, the siren will sound and the team with the highest score is declared the winner;
8. If scores are still tied, steps 3 – 8 are repeated until a result is determined.

The following shall also apply:

Starting positions
Any Starting Position (6-6-6) warnings are reset for each period of Additional Time.

Interchange cap
Clubs shall receive 10 interchanges for each 2 x 3 minute period. Any leftover interchanges from each period of Additional Time would not carry over into a subsequent period.

 

[threesixpio]

Golden point scored from Selwood getting a fake free.

You know it

 

[Dirty Bird]

The rule is sheer stupidity.

Imagine this situation at the end of the 2nd extra time with Collingwood up by 6 points



Siren goes to say Collingwood win
But the kick occurs before umpires call an end to play. Now it's tied and the sirens gone.

Awkward situation ensures.

Or what about the scoreboard/timekeepers score being incorrect. Period could be extended as they think it's tied. However, 1 team could actually be up by a point. Then the team down kicks a goal.

Scoreboard could say 118-112
Then they change the scoreboard to 118-113

The team on 113 would've actually been up when the 5 minute period ended, however, because the timekeeper was in opinion it was 112, the period was extended and now they lose.

The rule needs to change. Badly.

 

[Dirty Bird]

A reminder that thankfully, this was changed.

No more golden score: League changes finals tie-break rule

The unused 'golden score' tie-breaker for finals will never be used after the AFL Commission changed the rule

www.afl.com.au

In the event of a tied Finals Series Match, the following procedure shall apply:

1. Goal umpires confirm scores are identical;
2. There is a six-minute break;
3. Teams change ends;
4. Three minutes of Additional Time shall be played, plus time-on;
5. At the end of the first Additional Time period, the siren will sound and teams will immediately change ends without a break;
6. The ball will be bounced (or thrown up) in the centre and a further three minutes of play (plus time-on) will commence;
7. At the conclusion of this period, the siren will sound and the team with the highest score is declared the winner;
8. If scores are still tied, steps 3 – 8 are repeated until a result is determined.

The following shall also apply:

Starting positions
Any Starting Position (6-6-6) warnings are reset for each period of Additional Time.

Interchange cap
Clubs shall receive 10 interchanges for each 2 x 3 minute period. Any leftover interchanges from each period of Additional Time would not carry over into a subsequent period.

Wasnt aware of this. Good they changed it, however, it was never communicated to lower leagues. I umpired a qf this year at 1pt and a gf this year with a 6pt margin. Communications were never communicated to the umpires. So we were there at 3/4 time reminding ourselves of ot rules.

Also, Not fond of the 3min halves rather than 5min halves.

3min is so short and its feasible no score can happen. Lengthen it a little.

 

[FootyJunkie]

I want the replay

 

[kickazz]

I want the replay

In Perth?

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Don't understand the disdain for behinds winning games in here: If you don't want to lose a 'golden point' grand final to a rushed behind, don't let it go through for one, just like any other game, just like at any other stage in the grand final. As for excitement value, watching teams desperately try to defend against conceding any score is immensely tense (just think Eric Mackenzie in the Port/WC 2017 final) - how lacklustre will it be if we have 'golden goal' and teams willingly walk the ball across the line because behinds effectively no longer matter?

A second (and if needed, a third, fourth...) period of extra time would be better; failing that, some alert to the players that we're now in 'golden point' time would be better than the present rules. 'Golden goal' is no improvement.

It's not the disdain for scoring behinds with a time limit to win it, it's the golden behind that is the worst idea ever, thankfully the AFL had some sanity and removed it. The 3 minutes each way is the most logical, fair and sane rule. You can still win it by getting behinds, but now teams have a time limit and can play on both ends.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Wasnt aware of this. Good they changed it, however, it was never communicated to lower leagues. I umpired a qf this year at 1pt and a gf this year with a 6pt margin. Communications were never communicated to the umpires. So we were there at 3/4 time reminding ourselves of ot rules.

Also, Not fond of the 3min halves rather than 5min halves.

3min is so short and its feasible no score can happen. Lengthen it a little.

I felt the 5 minute halves went too long for extra time, 2/3 of the extra time games were 3-4 goal wins. 6 minutes of game time will be plenty of time for at least 1 score.

 

[Billy ray]

If this unlikely event occurs, they should just award the flag to the suns

I stand by this

 

[terrybull]

How about just a shoot out after extra time if the scores are still leveled?

18 players on each side takes turn 30 metes out to kick goals.

Fist team to miss, the other team can secure the win with a successful goal.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

How about just a shoot out after extra time if the scores are still leveled?

18 players on each side takes turn 30 metes out to kick goals.

Fist team to miss, the other team can secure the win with a successful goal.

Don't like it.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

If the scores are level after extra time keep adding a 5 min period. It's the last game so be it.

 

[SnapJack]

How about just a shoot out after extra time if the scores are still leveled?

18 players on each side takes turn 30 metes out to kick goals.

Fist team to miss, the other team can secure the win with a successful goal.

Only if the goalkicks are off the ground and the teams get to appoint Goalkeepers in the square.

 

[SC_Power]

How about just a shoot out after extra time if the scores are still leveled?

18 players on each side takes turn 30 metes out to kick goals.

Fist team to miss, the other team can secure the win with a successful goal.

Torps from inside the centre square, and I’m sold.

 

[terrybull]

Torps from inside the centre square, and I’m sold.

And blind folded

 

[JHF1870]

What if it gets to the Golden point stage and one team just surrounds their player to cross the goal line unimpeded

 

[Cold Ghost]

What if it gets to the Golden point stage and one team just surrounds their player to cross the goal line unimpeded

Bring on the Flying Wedge!

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Should be last goal wins golden goal not golden point. Imagine a bomb from outside 50 to win it.

 

[Dazzler9]

Should be last goal wins golden goal not golden point. Imagine a bomb from outside 50 to win it.

What happens if one team kicks 7 behinds in a row? Then the other team kicks a golden goal and wins, even though they've scored less points?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

What happens if one team kicks 7 behinds in a row? Then the other team kicks a golden goal and wins, even though they've scored less points?

Golden six total points.

 

[Bay53]

Should be last goal wins golden goal not golden point. Imagine a bomb from outside 50 to win it.

Why? A point has won Grand Finals in the past.

Ever heard of Barry Breen?