List Mgmt. Welcome Cooper Duff-Tytler (Pick 4, 2025 National Draft)

[txbyhull]

we won 1 game.

We ain't close til we win more than we lose

Little disingenuous no? Adelaide went from 15th to 1st in 1 year. We can spend another 2 years or so in the bottom 4 losing a bunch, and once the boys pass that 100 game mark and we get a few more top 5 picks and top FAs hopefully we can catapult hard

 

[twce13]

 

[jdisc]

So at what stage do you throw an 18 year old into the ruck?

At AFL level.

Dean Cox and Nic Nat were 19 when they debut, Scott Lycett was 18, Gawn was 18, Grundy was 19

Shall I go on?

CDT plays ruck in the WAFL until he warrants selection

 

[txbyhull]

Dean Cox and Nic Nat were 19 when they debut, Scott Lycett was 18, Gawn was 18, Grundy was 19

Shall I go on?

CDT plays ruck in the WAFL until he warrants selection

Difference between most of those guys and Duff is that they're all much better rucks and he is a much better forward and skill-based footballer. He can absolutely play at AFL level as a high forward or wing early days, even though I agree he should be rucking in the WAFL

 

[Obeanie1]

Dean Cox and Nic Nat were 19 when they debut, Scott Lycett was 18, Gawn was 18, Grundy was 19

Shall I go on?

CDT plays ruck in the WAFL until he warrants selection

And?

 

[Cuzz09]

Little disingenuous no? Adelaide went from 15th to 1st in 1 year. We can spend another 2 years or so in the bottom 4 losing a bunch, and once the boys pass that 100 game mark and we get a few more top 5 picks and top FAs hopefully we can catapult hard

Adelaide were a very unlucky to not play finals in 2023 , a dodgy call v Syd IIRC won 11 games, then had a drop off in 24 but still won 8games in 15th

Adelaide had slowly been building for 5 years

We are probably atthe start of our climb.

2026 4-5 wins bottom 4
2027 7-8 wins bottom 6
2028 8-10 wins 9-13th
2029 onwards pushing finals

Who knows

 

[Obeanie1]

Adelaide were a very unlucky to not play finals in 2023 , a dodgy call v Syd IIRC won 11 games, then had a drop off in 24 but still won 8games in 15th

Adelaide had slowly been building for 5 years

We are probably atthe start of our climb.

2026 4-5 wins bottom 4
2027 7-8 wins bottom 6
2028 8-10 wins 9-13th
2029 onwards pushing finals

Who knows

We should be aiming for 10th in 2028.

Land some finals experience and keep building.

 

[Rowan18]

Adelaide were a very unlucky to not play finals in 2023 , a dodgy call v Syd IIRC won 11 games, then had a drop off in 24 but still won 8games in 15th

Adelaide had slowly been building for 5 years

We are probably atthe start of our climb.

2026 4-5 wins bottom 4
2027 7-8 wins bottom 6
2028 8-10 wins 9-13th
2029 onwards pushing finals

Who knows

It is never linear like that. There is a tipping point of acquiring enough young talent and then getting them past 50 games experience. We hit that point next year (with the B22 players from 2021-2024 drafts all over that 50 game line). If we're lucky we get the jump back half of this year, but more likely it is 2027. We'll almost certainly lock in some A grade trades/FA this year and next to round out needs as well (Chad Warner etc). That's what Adelaide and Brisbane did.

Brisbane is a good example of this. Finished last and 5 wins 2017, 15th and 5 wins 2018 (but % up by 10%), 2nd and prelim in 2019.

Hawks did something similar but didn't bottom properly, so haven't hit the highs. My prediction is they'll hover around bottom part of the 8/10 for a few years and then drop down for the final part of the rebuild (like we did in 13/14).

 

[Cuzz09]

It is never linear like that. There is a tipping point of acquiring enough young talent and then getting them past 50 games experience. We hit that point next year (with the B22 players from 2021-2024 drafts all over that 50 game line). If we're lucky we get the jump back half of this year, but more likely it is 2027. We'll almost certainly lock in some A grade trades/FA this year and next to round out needs as well (Chad Warner etc). That's what Adelaide and Brisbane did.

Brisbane is a good example of this. Finished last and 5 wins 2017, 15th and 5 wins 2018 (but % up by 10%), 2nd and prelim in 2019.

Hawks did something similar but didn't bottom properly, so haven't hit the highs. My prediction is they'll hover around bottom part of the 8/10 for a few years and then drop down for the final part of the rebuild (like we did in 13/14).

Hawks seem to just bob up and win a flag every decade

 

[Rowan18]

Hawks seem to just bob up and win a flag every decade

They go more in bursts. Had a very lean period from 1991-2008 and the club nearly folded into a merger. If they don't win something in the next few years, they could achieve a similar lean patch from 2015 to the next one.

 

[Cuzz09]

They go more in bursts. Had a very lean period from 1991-2008 and the club nearly folded into a merger. If they don't win something in the next few years, they could achieve a similar lean patch from 2015 to the next one.

17 years is a long drought for them 91-08