Restricted Free Agent Zak Butters

[Traveling_Power]

Lachie McNeil to Port confirmed

Why would we want a forward (Lachie Mcneil) when we have MG & Whitlock currently and Dougie Cochrane & Zemes Pilot coming in over the next 2 years ?

and we have SPP, Tom Cochrane, Berry, Richards, Durdin

 

[Traveling_Power]

That’s all Dogs will have to trade. Once he nominates the Dogs it’ll get done, that’s just how these trades always go when a player is out of contract. It really is poor timing for Port with Tassie coming in, but there’s nothing anyone can really do about it apart from backing in the recruiting staff with 3 mid-late firsts.

no problem

Any team who wants Butters will have to add a sweetener to any 1st round pick that is past pick 17

or they can make deals for West Coasts 1st round picks or Essendon's 1st round picks or Richmond's 1st round picks (etc)

 

[bulldogs201616]

no problem

Any team who wants Butters will have to add a sweetener to any 1st round pick that is past pick 17

or they can make deals for West Coasts 1st round picks or Essendon's 1st round picks or Richmond's 1st round picks (etc)

I've said similar statements in the past about ex bulldogs players. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that whatever club Butters picks (if he leaves) will just drag it out to the last day knowing Port will eventually cave.

 

[Traveling_Power]

McNeil, Vandermeer, Busslinger. There’s a few decent options there as a sweetener.

If port really wanted someone like Sanders, they’d be forfeiting the first round picks instead. He’s not a sweetener, he’d be the main course. Not that there’s any chance of him leaving however.

We don't need medium forwards McNeil or Vandermeer although the dogs may get picks for these players from other Melbourne teams (would West Coast, Collingwood or Melbourne give you picks for these players ?)

Busslinger as a 198cm KPD might be of interest as a sweetener for the late 2026 1st round pick (especially if the Dog go deep in the finals)

As for Saunders he would be a sweetener for
the 2027 1st round pick which will be around the mid to late 20's AND
the 2028 1st round pick that will be in the early to mid 20's

 

[Traveling_Power]

I've said similar statements in the past about ex bulldogs players. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that whatever club Butters picks (if he leaves) will just drag it out to the last day knowing Port will eventually cave.

not this time ... it will be like a Wingard type trade but with more coming back to us

 

[bulldogs201616]

Oh yeah absolutely nothing on here matters it’s just various points of view.

The point I was trying to make is Dogs fans saying 3 1sts is enough, without even looking at the actual picks is just silly. Same as any Port fans who think we’d get multiple top 5’s. Both are fanciful and the clubs will find a middle ground.

Not sure Geelong and finding the middle ground is possible.

 

[bulldogs201616]

not this time ... it will be like a Wingard type trade but with more coming back to us

Do you think Port will let him walk into the draft? If your dealing with a team like Geelong you will some how end up with Wingard in the trade.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I just want to remind some Dogs fans on here that we have just gone through three-four years of other clubs targeting our players with Dunkley with Brisbane/Essendon, Collingwoods chase of Naughton and Smith with Geelong, and then the last years non-stop JUH fiasco, we all know how much it sucks hearing all year about hypothetical trade situations and having oppo fans talk about your currently contracted and loved players as one of their own.
No matter what happens with Butters, if he stays or goes, I'm suggesting we try to have a little bit of decorum and sympathy when talking about it, some of the comments I'm reading come off as Geelong-supporter levels of cringe, and we should never stoop to that level.

Or maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned, anyway, carry on.

 

[Doggy]

Why would we want a forward (Lachie Mcneil) when we have MG & Whitlock currently and Dougie Cochrane & Zemes Pilot coming in over the next 2 years ?

and we have SPP, Tom Cochrane, Berry, Richards, Durdin

That one has gone over your head.

That isn't exactly an jnspiring list of forwards you have listed.

 

[Doggy]

the Bulldogs father son & NGA players are of no concern of Port in regard to your chase of Butters

if you want Butters (or if he nominates the Dogs) then the dogs will have to find a way to please Port

which might mean the Dogs have to deals with West Coast / Essendon / Richmond & Melbourne to get the high range picks that Butters is worth

Nothing is getting past you is it.

I was asked a question which I answered.

Port's pursuit of Cocherine is of no concern to the dogs either

 

[bulldogs201616]

the Bulldogs father son & NGA players are of no concern of Port in regard to your chase of Butters

if you want Butters (or if he nominates the Dogs) then the dogs will have to find a way to please Port

which might mean the Dogs have to deals with West Coast / Essendon / Richmond & Melbourne to get the high range picks that Butters is worth

Any ideas on how you expect the dogs to get the early picks but?

 

[bulldogs201616]

I just want to remind some Dogs fans on here that we have just gone through three-four years of other clubs targeting our players with Dunkley with Brisbane/Essendon, Collingwoods chase of Naughton and Smith with Geelong, and then the last years non-stop JUH fiasco, we all know how much it sucks hearing all year about hypothetical trade situations and having oppo fans talk about your currently contracted and loved players as one of their own.
No matter what happens with Butters, if he stays or goes, I'm suggesting we try to have a little bit of decorum and sympathy when talking about it, some of the comments I'm reading come off as Geelong-supporter levels of cringe, and we should never stoop to that level.

Or maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned, anyway, carry on.

It's a business at the end of the day. It is going to near impossible for Port Adelaide to get a fair return.

 

[Mr Meow]

I just want to remind some Dogs fans on here that we have just gone through three-four years of other clubs targeting our players with Dunkley with Brisbane/Essendon, Collingwoods chase of Naughton and Smith with Geelong, and then the last years non-stop JUH fiasco, we all know how much it sucks hearing all year about hypothetical trade situations and having oppo fans talk about your currently contracted and loved players as one of their own.
No matter what happens with Butters, if he stays or goes, I'm suggesting we try to have a little bit of decorum and sympathy when talking about it, some of the comments I'm reading come off as Geelong-supporter levels of cringe, and we should never stoop to that level.

Or maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned, anyway, carry on.

All that bullshit and the only purpose of it was to snipe Geelong supporters. Moral high ground revoked.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Do you think Port will let him walk into the draft? If your dealing with a team like Geelong you will some how end up with Wingard in the trade.

I don't think that's true. Geelong has plenty of things port would be interested in.

Academic though because cats will likely be a quiet observer here

 

[EBERT THE KING]

If its 3 first rounders + a player going to Port, they will need serious steak knives going back with Butters

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Any ideas on how you expect the dogs to get the early picks but?

If this was Geelong going after Bontempelli we’d be demanding they trade an A-grader out for early picks to satisfy us - which they obviously wouldn’t do and neither will we. It’s a sucky situation.

Cue the outrage from this board if Butters picks Geelong and he goes there for 3 picks in the teens and early 20’s.

 

[The Inbetweener]

I don't think that's true. Geelong has plenty of things port would be interested in.

Academic though because cats will likely be a quiet observer here

What sort of things do you think Port would be interested in from you guys? Genuine question/ interested btw, not trying to be smart.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

What sort of things do you think Port would be interested in from you guys? Genuine question/ interested btw, not trying to be smart.

I think he means we have players from SA (if they wanted to go of course which is always the issue we wont do what Sydney did).

 

[CatToTheFuture]

What sort of things do you think Port would be interested in from you guys? Genuine question/ interested btw, not trying to be smart.

There's a bunch of SA guys to ask about. At the low end of the value spectrum for kids is Molier, a raw forward who has missed a bit with injury but kicked 4 in his second match. Polkinghorne is close to a debut, only gone goalless once has kicked a couppe of bags of 4 in a side that wasn't dominating. Or Harley Barker, our 1st round selection last year who slid on an ACL, though we'll have him patched up and playing VGL by July-ish.

Senior options are maybe more controversial with Brad Close and Tyson Stengle fitting exactly the types Port need forward of center but with Close in a 2yr form slump and Tyson still dealing with off field issues the interest from port is debateable.

If they're not particularly fussed on whether the player is from SA then they would be out of their mind not to ask for Shaun Mannagh. Exactly the type they need, in his prime, and he'd probably be open to chasing a pay packet given he was drafted after 25 and hasn't got the bank balance others have. He's the one Port should ask for and also, with the two above MIA, also the biggest pain point for Geelong.

I say all this safe in the knowledge that no one is asking us anyway.

 

[ABAB]

There's a bunch of SA guys to ask about. At the low end of the value spectrum for kids is Molier, a raw forward who has missed a bit with injury but kicked 4 in his second match. Polkinghorne is close to a debut, only gone goalless once has kicked a couppe of bags of 4 in a side that wasn't dominating. Or Harley Barker, our 1st round selection last year who slid on an ACL, though we'll have him patched up and playing VGL by July-ish.

Senior options are maybe more controversial with Brad Close and Tyson Stengle fitting exactly the types Port need forward of center but with Close in a 2yr form slump and Tyson still dealing with off field issues the interest from port is debateable.

If they're not particularly fussed on whether the player is from SA then they would be out of their mind not to ask for Shaun Mannagh. Exactly the type they need, in his prime, and he'd probably be open to chasing a pay packet given he was drafted after 25 and hasn't got the bank balance others have. He's the one Port should ask for and also, with the two above MIA, also the biggest pain point for Geelong.

I say all this safe in the knowledge that no one is asking us anyway.

Stengle can reunite with his dealers in SA and get better discount lol.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Stengle can reunite with his dealers in SA and get better discount lol.

As i said probably not interested

 

[Taylor]

If the choice is between pick #2 and three pick #18s where at least two of them are pushed back into the mid twenties by Tasmania - I think that's not going to be a matching.

Especially if Port need picks to match father son bids and can only use two of them for that.

Turning pick #2 into a couple of later picks like a reverse GWS job that they did to get Taranto (pick #7 & McCarthy into #3, #3 and #16 into pick #2)

Could see Port with two high picks before a bid (they won't bid on their own player) and then the currency to match, but you aren't buying two picks in the #10 range with three picks in the 20s.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If they're not particularly fussed on whether the player is from SA then they would be out of their mind not to ask for Shaun Mannagh. Exactly the type they need, in his prime, and he'd probably be open to chasing a pay packet given he was drafted after 25 and hasn't got the bank balance others have. He's the one Port should ask for and also, with the two above MIA, also the biggest pain point for Geelong.

 

[ABAB]

If the choice is between pick #2 and three pick #18s where at least two of them are pushed back into the mid twenties by Tasmania - I think that's not going to be a matching.

Especially if Port need picks to match father son bids and can only use two of them for that.

Turning pick #2 into a couple of later picks like a reverse GWS job that they did to get Taranto (pick #7 & McCarthy into #3, #3 and #16 into pick #2)

Could see Port with two high picks before a bid (they won't bid on their own player) and then the currency to match, but you aren't buying two picks in the #10 range with three picks in the 20s.

Some posters are stating the FA compensation will start at pick 8 this year (I thought only the new bidding was being introduced this year). If that's the case then Port Power will easily match and the AFL have really stuffed them up twice with the new FA compensation and bidding rule this year lol.

 

[ABAB]

As i said probably not interested

You guys hearing up there he is back on the bender again????