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Sorry but he has already done it once, now I do assume that he is guilty. He may not be if he used the word “maggot” tho.

So what education did he get after the first offence. If he did get educated, why did he do it again?

Yes you change behaviour however some will never change no matter the level of education.

PS : amazingly you didn’t use the “woke” word.

This has nothing to do with woke but Mob mentality. You have suggested he be banned for the rest of the year, effectively making him ineligible to ever be registered for any football club, for a 20 year old Indigenous kid whom I'll take a punt and say hasn't got a lot to fall back on.

I find that a strange position to take when we are meant to show tolerance to all in society, even a 20 year old Indigenous kid who has used a slur twice.

Maybe this time he needs to educate himself, take ownership, understand what it is like to be a gay man or woman who is also Indigenous in our society, what do those words mean to them, what is their impact?

He needs to be stood down, not suspended and seek the help he needs to understand why it is not acceptable and the AFL, for all their virtue signaling could do the right thing and help bring him closer to understanding by not tick and flicking an education course (I mean, when you were at the bank and you had to update your skills to be compliant, did you just go to the answers page because it was a waste of time) but get him immersed in the community, make friendships because then he'd understand it from a point of view of a peer and that carries weight.
 
No, it means the AFL and their 'instructions on how to speak' are useless, and the AFL has no right to assess political correctness outside of legal obligation. A corporate body dictating restructuring on speak is way outside their remit, they are hypocritical and weak, we know Collard is a product of 20 years of his environment, there is zero evidence that a couple of seminars can change this, not any evidence that banning him for the year will change this.
It's abhorrent language, but the AFL is not the arbitor of speech.
Bigger efforts in the community need to made here for real change.
What happens in your workplace if someone says the word f****t?
 
This has nothing to do with woke but Mob mentality. You have suggested he be banned for the rest of the year, effectively making him ineligible to ever be registered for any football club, for a 20 year old Indigenous kid whom I'll take a punt and say hasn't got a lot to fall back on.

I find that a strange position to take when we are meant to show tolerance to all in society, even a 20 year old Indigenous kid who has used a slur twice.

Maybe this time he needs to educate himself, take ownership, understand what it is like to be a gay man or woman who is also Indigenous in our society, what do those words mean to them, what is their impact?

He needs to be stood down, not suspended and seek the help he needs to understand why it is not acceptable and the AFL, for all their virtue signaling could do the right thing and help bring him closer to understanding by not tick and flicking an education course (I mean, when you were at the bank and you had to update your skills to be compliant, did you just go to the answers page because it was a waste of time) but get him immersed in the community, make friendships because then he'd understand it from a point of view of a peer and that carries weight.

I'm not sure that doubling the penalty from six weeks to 12 weeks for a second offence makes sense. Six weeks is already a hefty penalty, designed to make it abundantly clear to both the guilty party, and everyone else in the league, that this is viewed as unacceptable and inexcusable behaviour. And fair enough, too.

I don't think that making it a 12 week suspension serves as any more of a deterrent than six weeks does. And then what, does a third suspension go to 18 weeks? 24 weeks?

I think the AFL should keep it simple and transparent. The penalty is set at six weeks (or whatever - I'd be just as happy with four weeks or eight weeks, as long as it's something significant), no wriggle room. Then, after a certain number of offences, you're terminated as an AFL player. I'm not sure what that number should be... three times? Two times, even?

Most players understand that this is something you can't be doing. Of those who don't, most will get the message when they cop a hefty suspension. And for the few remaining dingbats who refuse to learn, they can go find something else to do with their lives.

Bigger efforts in the community need to made here for real change.

Sounds great, I agree. We should be seeking change at a society-wide level.

However, the AFL absolutely has a right to decide how they want to handle this kind of speech from their employees.
 
Tasmania will have immediate real support from an entire state of football fans. Much better prospects than Gold Coast

When the Crows then the Power came in SA was rocking. We all know this will happen in Tasmania and the players will be treated like rockstars. I would say the fanaticism around the OG Crows and Power lasted for a good decade after their arrival. Fremantle had immense support from day 1. West Coast Eagles players were similar, treated like rockstars. The appeal to go to a football heavy state with real culture in an exciting era exists.

If Ablett can become a Sun, Daicos could become a Devil. Id also state that the AFL would be offering Daicos everything to go down their because they want Tasmania to be self sufficient, with good enough players from day 1.
 
I'm not sure that doubling the penalty from six weeks to 12 weeks for a second offence makes sense. Six weeks is already a hefty penalty, designed to make it abundantly clear to both the guilty party, and everyone else in the league, that this is viewed as unacceptable and inexcusable behaviour. And fair enough, too.

I don't think that making it a 12 week suspension serves as any more of a deterrent than six weeks does. And then what, does a third suspension go to 18 weeks? 24 weeks?

I think the AFL should keep it simple and transparent. The penalty is set at six weeks (or whatever - I'd be just as happy with four weeks or eight weeks, as long as it's something significant), no wriggle room. Then, after a certain number of offences, you're terminated as an AFL player. I'm not sure what that number should be... three times? Two times, even?

Most players understand that this is something you can't be doing. Of those who don't, most will get the message when they cop a hefty suspension. And for the few remaining dingbats who refuse to learn, they can go find something else to do with their lives.



Sounds great, I agree. We should be seeking change at a society-wide level.

However, the AFL absolutely has a right to decide how they want to handle this kind of speech from their employees.

6 weeks is more than enough. However being its his 2nd offence the AFL will likely give him a final warning and say he is out if it happens again.
 
But also, where would young footballers prefer to live??

doesnt matter. the draft is a thing. Gold Coast and GWS and started to get cultuers going that keeps players now, doesnt appear that too many players in recent seasons are running home to mummy. If Tasmania has a decent culture amongst the playing group then id be pretty comfortable keeping their list.

Where they will struggle is getting trades done after the novelty wears off. Players wives already prevent a lot of movement out of victoria for this reason...waa waaa waa my influencer career, or my fake professional career i can only get in Victoria...yeah AFL footballers seem to date girls with careers only victoria has apparently.
 

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