Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

[Mr_Moogle]

Good video on Iran. Very sobering. We're looking at years of high energy prices.

 

[Mick F]

Hastie just has TDS. Slippery Pete reckons the alliance is in good shape and our super funds should invest more into the US stock market.

They **** up the world’s economy and it’s our shares that suffer the most. Keating set up the Super Guarantee to provide Australia with a sovereign fund, so that we didn’t have to pass our resources into foreign hands.

 

[ADL9798]

There's a very obvious and predictable reason the Trump cult has gone quiet and even, shockingly, started to express concern about the current state of world affairs.

It's now starting to impact them directly.

How does that idiom go?

"I never though the Leopards would eat my face" sobs the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.​

It’s been fascinating to watch these so-called Libertarians cry so loudly about civil rights matters that affect them personally, but then consistently toss that out the window and advocate for state or church interference and erosion of civil liberties whenever the lives of other groups (particularly minorities) are concerned.

Freedom of speech and the press, book bans, women's reproductive rights, gay conversion therapy, violence, imprisonment and deportation of immigrants without due process, human rights violations and civilian deaths in war zones, that nonsense eugenics approach to COVID where we cleanse the population of the weak and vulnerable en masse while apparently pretending everything's normal with no impacts on the economy.

The list goes on.

Beating up minorities to make themselves feel tall is the only consistent principle these self-centred frauds have ever actually stuck to.

 

[kirky]

There's a very obvious and predictable reason the Trump cult has gone quiet and even, shockingly, started to express concern about the current state of world affairs.

It's now starting to impact them directly.

How does that idiom go?

"I never though the Leopards would eat my face" sobs the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.​

It is fascinating to watch these so-called Libertarians cry so loudly about civil rights matters that affect them personally, but then consistently toss that out the window and advocate for state or church interference and erosion of civil liberties whenever the lives of other groups (particularly minorities) are concerned.

Freedom of speech and the press, book bans, women's reproductive rights, gay conversion therapy, violence, imprisonment and deportation of immigrants without due process, human rights violations and civilian deaths in war zones, that nonsense eugenics approach to COVID where we cleanse the population of the weak and vulnerable en masse while apparently pretending everything's normal with no impacts on the economy.

The list goes on.

Beating up minorities to make themselves feel tall is the only consistent principle these self-centred frauds have ever actually stuck to.

And the word, hypocrites comes to mind.

Screw them.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

All the World's leaders should he asking Trump for clarification as to what is his end game in Iran.

He wants the support of Allies, yet didn’t warn us before the USA struck & also won't declare exactly what he wants to achieve.

Meanwhile he has created an international cluster****!

Albanese wants Trump to recognise damage Iran war has caused

Anthony Albanese wants "more certainty" from the United States on its war objectives in Iran and says the administration must be clear if it is still pursuing regime change.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Soggy2112]

All the World's leaders should he asking Trump for clarification as to what is his end game in Iran.

He wants the support of Allies, yet didn’t warn us before the USA struck & also won't declare exactly what he wants to achieve.

Meanwhile he has created an international cluster****!

Albanese wants Trump to recognise damage Iran war has caused

Anthony Albanese wants "more certainty" from the United States on its war objectives in Iran and says the administration must be clear if it is still pursuing regime change.

www.abc.net.au

He won’t tell them because he doesn’t know.

He’s an incompetent idiot who is in way over his head.

He genuinely believed that the reason other presidents have not tried to bulldoze their way through negotiations is because they were too weak to.

Every single president in US history has acted solely in the interests of the US and the expansion of their “empire”.

Trump is not smart enough to see that because he mistakes subtlety and nuance for weakness.

For the last 70 years or so, the US enemies have largely remained in line because they did not want to face military action.

Trump has shown his hand. Now his enemies are smartly saying, well if you’re gonna hit us where it hurts regardless of what we do, then we’re gonna do the same.

And still he has the audacity to criticise his allies, who are currently wearing the brunt of his mistakes, and who he has constantly criticised and threatened, for not charging in head first to solve his problems.

 

[Doctor B]

He won’t tell them because he doesn’t know.

He’s an incompetent idiot who is in way over his head.

He genuinely believed that the reason other presidents have not tried to bulldoze their way through negotiations is because they were too weak to.

Every single president in US history has acted solely in the interests of the US and the expansion of their “empire”.

Trump is not smart enough to see that because he mistakes subtlety and nuance for weakness.

For the last 70 years or so, the US enemies have largely remained in line because they did not want to face military action.

Trump has shown his hand. Now his enemies are smartly saying, well if you’re gonna hit us where it hurts regardless of what we do, then we’re gonna do the same.

And still he has the audacity to criticise his allies, who are currently wearing the brunt of his mistakes, and who he has constantly criticised and threatened, for not charging in head first to solve his problems.

Trumps senior advisors for the war include real estate developer Witkoff, Jewish son in law investor/real estate developer Kushner, with huge conflict of interests, and the Christian Nationalist who almost certainly thinks he's fulfilling whacko biblical prophecy in the Middle East, Hegseth.

What could go wrong?

 

[119others]

Hastie on the money.

Hastie warns Australians may be losing faith in US alliance

Coalition frontbencher Andrew Hastie has warned the credibility of the United States is being damaged and says Australians may be losing faith in the alliance.

www.abc.net.au

Hastie will make a good PM one day. Possibly as early as the next term

 

[119others]

And the word, hypocrites comes to mind.

Screw them.

where have the MAGAs disappeared to?

 

[kirky]

Trumps senior advisors for the war include real estate developer Witkoff, Jewish son in law investor/real estate developer Kushner, with huge conflict of interests, and the Christian Nationalist who almost certainly thinks he's fulfilling whacko biblical prophecy in the Middle East, Hegseth.

What could go wrong?

Hopefully this bloke ends up in jail as well.

An incompetent Secretary of Defense (will not say War).

 

[Vader]

Trumps senior advisors for the war include real estate developer Witkoff, Jewish son in law investor/real estate developer Kushner, with huge conflict of interests, and the Christian Nationalist who almost certainly thinks he's fulfilling whacko biblical prophecy in the Middle East, Hegseth.

What could go wrong?

I'm confused... is Hegseth LITERALLY praying that an assassin will take himself out?

I mean... "those who deserve no mercy" has to include him, right?

 

[adelaidecrows]

I'm confused... is Hegseth LITERALLY praying that an assassin will take himself out?

I mean... "those who deserve no mercy" has to include him, right?

Hegseth is a stupid person. He is deadset framing this as a religious war no doubt as one of the most pathetic attempts to win the american public over. Fact is this same rhetoric was used in Iraq 24 years ago and everyone has seen and heard it before. I hope that the midterms go off without a hitch and the democrats can start demolishing this idiotic cabinet.

 

[kirky]

Well it looks like there are still enough stupid people in the US

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5807907-trump-approval-rating-umass-amherst-poll/

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well it looks like there are still enough stupid people in the US

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5807907-trump-approval-rating-umass-amherst-poll/

Around a third of Americans are truly stupid.

Mid terms will be interesting.

 

[kirky]

Around a third of Americans are truly stupid.

Mid terms will be interesting.

You can’t help the stupid.

And The Orange Turd will find a way to stop the midterms.

 

[119others]

just mind blowing. trump and his cabinet are 500X richer than bidens equivalent. worth 60 BILLION

interested in waynes take on this...

The Trump administration is a kleptocracy. That alone offers hope for an end to the Iran war

The US president and his associates have significant financial investments in pro-US Gulf states, and these may be ruined in an Iranian retaliatory campaign.

www.theage.com.au

Take cryptocurrency. World Liberty Financial – a business venture of the Trump family and the family of his special envoy, Steve Witkoff – received a $US2 billion ($2.9 billion) deposit courtesy of Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed al-Nahyan, who controls $US1.5 trillion of the Emiratis’ sovereign wealth. Witkoff’s son Zach, 32, heads up World Liberty, which has earned the Trump family at least $US1.2 billion in cash in less than two years. Donald Trump Jr and Trump’s youngest son, Barron, are listed as co-founders.

Days before Trump’s inauguration in January 2025, the Emirates purchased a 49 per cent stake in World Liberty by signing an agreement with his middle son, Eric. For his part, the president effectively controls a large stake in World Liberty through an entity called DT Marks DEFI LLC. The Trump family made at least an additional $US2.25 billion in paper gains from other crypto holdings.


Trump’s new-found enthusiasm for cryptocurrencies is in sharp contrast to his earlier public disdain for them. Towards the end of his first term, he said they were “not money” and their “value is highly volatile and based on thin air” with the potential to “facilitate unlawful behaviour, including drug trade and other illegal activity”. But when money talks, the rhetoric walks. Today, thanks to contributions by the United Arab Emirates and others, Trump is both a major crypto dealer and the industry’s top policymaker. In April last year, he issued an executive order that resulted in the closure of the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team, which investigated crypto crimes.

More generally, the Trump cabinet consists of people with a direct interest in keeping the global economy going. His is the wealthiest administration in modern history, with a combined net worth of $US60 billion – five hundred times richer than the $US118 million combined net worth of president Joe Biden’s cabinet. Major campaign fundraising organisers and cabinet members include Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, a billionaire, and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, an extremely wealthy hedge fund manager.

And that’s just those who naturally fell on Trump’s side. There is a longer list of the hyper-wealthy who supported the Democrats until they realised that Trump could and would upsize their fortunes. Trump’s artificial intelligence and crypto czar is David Sacks, a financier who supported Hillary Clinton in 2016 and denounced Trump after the riots in Washington DC in January 2021. Financier Marc Andreessen, who endorsed Trump in 2024, had backed Clinton in 2016 because he disliked Trump’s immigration policies. Elon Musk, the world’s wealthiest individual, once waited in line for six hours to shake Barack Obama’s hand. He had quit Trump’s business advisory council over his climate change policies in 2017. But he donated heavily to Trump in 2024, and he plans to do so again at the midterm elections in November.

The key consideration is money. “We’ll get richer if he wins” as one private equity executive put it to the Financial Times in 2024. The euphemism for this is “saving Western civilisation”. Trump has no interest in killing the Middle Eastern goose that lays their golden eggs. Money talks, and his donors expect him to protect their billions. After all, they’re his billions too.

 

[kirky]

just mind blowing. trump and his cabinet are 500X richer than bidens equivalent. worth 60 BILLION

interested in waynes take on this...

The Trump administration is a kleptocracy. That alone offers hope for an end to the Iran war

The US president and his associates have significant financial investments in pro-US Gulf states, and these may be ruined in an Iranian retaliatory campaign.

www.theage.com.au

Take cryptocurrency. World Liberty Financial – a business venture of the Trump family and the family of his special envoy, Steve Witkoff – received a $US2 billion ($2.9 billion) deposit courtesy of Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed al-Nahyan, who controls $US1.5 trillion of the Emiratis’ sovereign wealth. Witkoff’s son Zach, 32, heads up World Liberty, which has earned the Trump family at least $US1.2 billion in cash in less than two years. Donald Trump Jr and Trump’s youngest son, Barron, are listed as co-founders.

Days before Trump’s inauguration in January 2025, the Emirates purchased a 49 per cent stake in World Liberty by signing an agreement with his middle son, Eric. For his part, the president effectively controls a large stake in World Liberty through an entity called DT Marks DEFI LLC. The Trump family made at least an additional $US2.25 billion in paper gains from other crypto holdings.


Trump’s new-found enthusiasm for cryptocurrencies is in sharp contrast to his earlier public disdain for them. Towards the end of his first term, he said they were “not money” and their “value is highly volatile and based on thin air” with the potential to “facilitate unlawful behaviour, including drug trade and other illegal activity”. But when money talks, the rhetoric walks. Today, thanks to contributions by the United Arab Emirates and others, Trump is both a major crypto dealer and the industry’s top policymaker. In April last year, he issued an executive order that resulted in the closure of the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team, which investigated crypto crimes.

More generally, the Trump cabinet consists of people with a direct interest in keeping the global economy going. His is the wealthiest administration in modern history, with a combined net worth of $US60 billion – five hundred times richer than the $US118 million combined net worth of president Joe Biden’s cabinet. Major campaign fundraising organisers and cabinet members include Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, a billionaire, and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, an extremely wealthy hedge fund manager.

And that’s just those who naturally fell on Trump’s side. There is a longer list of the hyper-wealthy who supported the Democrats until they realised that Trump could and would upsize their fortunes. Trump’s artificial intelligence and crypto czar is David Sacks, a financier who supported Hillary Clinton in 2016 and denounced Trump after the riots in Washington DC in January 2021. Financier Marc Andreessen, who endorsed Trump in 2024, had backed Clinton in 2016 because he disliked Trump’s immigration policies. Elon Musk, the world’s wealthiest individual, once waited in line for six hours to shake Barack Obama’s hand. He had quit Trump’s business advisory council over his climate change policies in 2017. But he donated heavily to Trump in 2024, and he plans to do so again at the midterm elections in November.

The key consideration is money. “We’ll get richer if he wins” as one private equity executive put it to the Financial Times in 2024. The euphemism for this is “saving Western civilisation”. Trump has no interest in killing the Middle Eastern goose that lays their golden eggs. Money talks, and his donors expect him to protect their billions. After all, they’re his billions too.

The one question I keep asking is “when is enough money enough”?

The obvious answer is the power it creates.

Th old saying “Absolute power corrupts absolutely” is apt.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It's kind of incredible that markets would pump on news that the Americans might pull out of the middle east. Firstly because they keep moving more troops to the region, secondly because pulling out of the middle east now without a resolution to the conflict would be a death knell to American hegemony and the petrodollar system.

Are the investor class actually just a bunch of dumbarses?

 

[kirky]

It's kind of incredible that markets would pump on news that the Americans might pull out of the middle east. Firstly because they keep moving more troops to the region, secondly because pulling out of the middle east now without a resolution to the conflict would be a death knell to American hegemony and the petrodollar system.

Are the investor class actually just a bunch of dumbarses?

And seriously would anyone actually believe what The Orange Turd says?

And yes the professional investor class aren’t that intelligent at times.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And seriously would anyone actually believe what The Orange Turd says?

And yes the professional investor class aren’t that intelligent at times.

Only idiots still haven't worked out he lies most of the time.

Mind you there are a few lemmings on here who still hang on his every word.

Yet another reminder how he has lied anout his so called deals & when it comes to the crunch he has asked us to fend for ourselves to fix a problem he created!

Trump tells allies ‘get your own oil’, says Iran war could end in 2-3 weeks

Under pressure as domestic petrol prices soar, US president says no deal needed to end war on Iran.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[kirky]

Well he is doing an address to the Nation - 9PM (US Eastern time) Wednesday night (11.30am our time Thursday).

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

How many more years does Trump have? And who's in line to run for the Democrats at the next election?

 

[adelaidecrows]

step by step guide to sum up the current geopolitical sphere

1. Trump starts an illegal war
2. cant get any allies to help
3. has a dummy spit
4. Threatens alliances
5. World leaders know they can just sit back and ride this out because they know Trump is some sort of idiot if he doesnt think the USA will undo his bullshit

The end!

 

[adelaidecrows]

How many more years does Trump have? And who's in line to run for the Democrats at the next election?

The democrats are going to hold a massive primary this time. So no front runners will be pushed. Even the likely candidate in Newsom hasnt been pushed forward because of the mistakes of last time with Harris. But they have a list of good candidates this time and some of them should have been considered last time had they not tried to be arrogant with the electorate.

The election isnt until 2028 sadly but thats a lot of years for a guy with ailing health.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

step by step guide to sum up the current geopolitical sphere

1. Trump starts an illegal war
2. cant get any allies to help
3. has a dummy spit
4. Threatens alliances
5. World leaders know they can just sit back and ride this out because they know Trump is some sort of idiot if he doesnt think the USA will undo his bullshit

The end!

If you want the support of your Allies, it's best to ask them BEFORE you go to war, not threaten them AFTER once you realise you have created a cluster **** of international chaos.