Autopsy 2026 Rd 6 Collapse. Copy. Paste.

[My Hat]

'Recognising that something is wrong' is a spectrum, not a binary.

There's recognising that something is wrong but backing the player to work through it (maybe with the help of some specific techniques, maybe because the player has been able to do so in similar situations in the past?).

There's recognising that the player isn't performing at a level that benefits the team and reducing their presence through rotations.

There's recognising that something is so drastically wrong that the player needs to be removed from the field ASAP.

And there's a whole lot of other territory at other parts of the spectrum.

Clearly the club got it wrong on this occasion. But things are not always as clear-cut as we might imagine.

 

[AT97]

I don't believe Caro, but I do believe it isn't going to go away any time soon and the club is going to cop it one way or another.

I might add though, Caro isn't the only one who has said Lij was telling opposition players about his state...

Muckraker social media person, perhaps?

 

[BluesByNature]

He looked off guts, I wouldn't be bagging Caro, it's not her fault she has to report on the stupid shit we do!

I am actually in disbelief at how unprofessional and completely cooked Michael Voss is, I seriously can't reconcile it with his careeer as a player and what it would have taken. Shocking

 

[BluesByNature]

I’m really glad Hayward played his best game for the club so far. Looked alot better

He was great, I thought Florent looked good too

 

[Accidental genius]

I'm just seriously disgusted with how incompetent this club still is. It's no wonder why we've been shit for so long.

It's actually seriously downright embarassing like this is worse then winning spoons, this is like no one knows what they're doing and no one gives a shit, it's a joke...

Incredibly unprofessional…

 

[agro]

Only slightly hyperbolic

How old were you in 2002?

 

[Accidental genius]

Yep which is obviously when they thought something wasn’t right

Better late than never I guess…

Was well and truely a late call…bizzare situation

 

[Accidental genius]

'Recognising that something is wrong' is a spectrum, not a binary.

There's recognising that something is wrong but backing the player to work through it (maybe with the help of some specific techniques, maybe because the player has been able to do so in similar situations in the past?).

There's recognising that the player isn't performing at a level that benefits the team and reducing their presence through rotations.

There's recognising that something is so drastically wrong that the player needs to be removed from the field ASAP.

And there's a whole lot of other territory at other parts of the spectrum.

Clearly the club got it wrong on this occasion. But things are not always as clear-cut as we might imagine.

Putting the erratic behaviour to one side….he had 1 possession for tge game.

Do our assistants track/Monitor stats ?

 

[JJBagger]

How old were you in 2002?

Why does that matter?

Port have sent a concussed player back on the field after being knocked unconscious, and Melbourne sent a player with life threatening injuries back on the field in the last couple of seasons. Neither lost draft picks nor received massive fines

 

[marcmurphy3]

We arent losing draft picks guys. It'll be a fine if we get penalised.

 

[Aphrodite]

We arent losing draft picks guys. It'll be a fine if we get penalised.

Who said we would be losing draft picks?

 

[Aphrodite]

I don't believe Caro, but I do believe it isn't going to go away any time soon and the club is going to cop it one way or another.

I might add though, Caro isn't the only one who has said Lij was telling opposition players about his state...

Agree I also feel it won’t be going away any time soon.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Who said we would be losing draft picks?

Been mentioned or alluded to a couple of times.

 

[Aphrodite]

Been mentioned or alluded to a couple of times.

Must have missed it.

 

[Accidental genius]

Must have missed it.

Shopping ?

 

[Will_Hayward]

Been mentioned or alluded to a couple of times.

By anyone with an idea, or just randomly on this board/social media?

 

[Michael Jezz]

Hollands is a case of pathalogical altruism
You do the right thing with good intentions & it ends up being destructive
A football club is not a psych ward or a rehab institution. Again we were not football first
In retrospect Carlton did not make the tough call in the off season and we are paying for it

 

[ctwenty1]

Glad there is nothing leaking out of the club so far

Must be pissing the “journos” off

If the leaks start coming from the AFL due to their involvement I hope we go after them as best we can

 

[jj1978]

Or simple not up to it?

There is so much to play out yet and I am positive we haven't been told the whole story.

My issue is it should NEVER have happened. It's a massive Failure from the club

My view everyone has gone into protection mode and have become insular and concept of team and seeing what’s beyond your line of sight is being impacted.

 

[marcmurphy3]

By anyone with an idea, or just randomly on this board/social media?

The 2nd one.

 

[norway blue]

O Holland his brother was out there with him..was it everyone was so caught up in the game…

Heard on the radio his father said he drove to the game and was ok

I dunno a weird and sorry situation….anxiety attack can come on quickly.

there is a lot of hysteria and here say in the media, gotta get the scoop before anyone else social media not much better.

I thought players would drive to Princes Park and the whole team and coaches bus it to the G ! Club is on notice now .Really hope Lij recovers well with whatever happened.

 

[jj1978]

I'm just seriously disgusted with how incompetent this club still is. It's no wonder why we've been shit for so long.

It's actually seriously downright embarassing like this is worse then winning spoons, this is like no one knows what they're doing and no one gives a shit, it's a joke...

Problem is from board to coaches every baton passed on has been from catastrophe for 23 years.

 

[BluesForEternity]

We arent losing draft picks guys. It'll be a fine if we get penalised.

Big fine and effectively forced to fire some people?

 

[GT619]

Never felt so disconnected to a club like this before. Doesn't anyone care what's going on and to fix it

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Never felt so disconnected to a club like this before. Doesn't anyone care what's going on and to fix it

The lack of action on the senior coach leaves everyone feeling like they care more about what's happening than the guys in charge.

We can all see its a hopeless situation for Voss yet we all just have to sit here and pretend like this is ok.