Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2026 - Part 2

[119others]

I’m confused. We have the upper hand if they do force a trade, right? Otherwise they wouldn’t have learnt a thing from the Ah Chee transaction.

i dont understand what you mean here? If he was forced into the PSD multiple other clubs are after him like Dons and Power who will pick before us and could EASILY match any contract terms he puts on himself

 

[119others]

I dont think theyre doing anything different to any other club.

No club wants to lose their guns, they just happen to have more of them than anyone else. We'd complain if someone came after Rankine or Rachele too.

Guys like Lester, McCarthy, Fort, even Cameron are all expendable. Neale probably wont be there next season either.

neale leaving may give them the flexibility to increase offer. its more the precedent set for their elite young guys

cameron not expendable. back to effectively career best goal averages and still has a few years left. aint slowing down

 

[Cromulant]

neale leaving may give them the flexibility to increase offer. its more the precedent set for their elite young guys

cameron not expendable. back to effectively career best goal averages and still has a few years left. aint slowing down

He'd be last on that list, but at his age of course he could be moved on if they wanted to free up cash.

 

[Velvet George]

i dont understand what you mean here? If he was forced into the PSD multiple other clubs are after him like Dons and Power who will pick before us and could EASILY match any contract terms he puts on himself

Brisbane just going to walk away from a first round pick?

 

[spenze]

We should just cut out the middle man and give Curtin to Brisbane for free

 

[119others]

Brisbane just going to walk away from a first round pick?

ok so lions would lose with psd option. ah chee loses as doesnt get where he wants to go. crows lose as dont get the player they have been chasing and do damage to our recruitment brand (same as saints not getting deal done for leek aleer last year)

how often does this scenario play out in reality? everyone loses? (exc the lucky team before the crows who pick him up in the PSD)?

maybe i have misunderstood what you are saying here

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We should just cut out the middle man and give Curtin to Brisbane for free

We did... the other one as we didn’t bother drafting him.

 

[Trigger13]

i dont understand what you mean here? If he was forced into the PSD multiple other clubs are after him like Dons and Power who will pick before us and could EASILY match any contract terms he puts on himself

That never happens.

 

[Velvet George]

ok so lions would lose with psd option. ah chee loses as doesnt get where he wants to go. crows lose as dont get the player they have been chasing and do damage to our recruitment brand (same as saints not getting deal done for leek aleer last year)

how often does this scenario play out in reality? everyone loses? (exc the lucky team before the crows who pick him up in the PSD)?

maybe i have misunderstood what you are saying here

Any chance you can use grammar? Your posts are off putting.

I’m saying Brisbane will take the comp pick rather than bluff a match and let him walk for nothing

 

[119others]

That never happens.

I’m confused. We have the upper hand if they do force a trade, right? Otherwise they wouldn’t have learnt a thing from the Ah Chee transaction.

my brain may be fried perhaps but i dont actually get what point you are making.

IF they force the trade we dont have the upper hand at all. we dont want to give up any trade collateral for him (he is worth approx 2 x firsts). so if they match, the options for bailey are:

(1) stay with lions - by far the most likely as he is mainly leaving for much more money
(2) like any OOC player, can nominate for ND or PSD
(3) get his nominated club (crows) to trade with lions which we wont do

i just dont get how we have the upper hand IF they match and force a trade

 

[Trigger13]

my brain may be fried perhaps but i dont actually get what point you are making.

IF they force the trade we dont have the upper hand at all. we dont want to give up any trade collateral for him (he is worth approx 2 x firsts). so if they match, the options for bailey are:

(1) stay with lions - by far the most likely as he is mainly leaving for much more money
(2) like any OOC player, can nominate for ND or PSD
(3) get his nominated club (crows) to trade with lions which we wont do

i just dont get how we have the upper hand IF they match and force a trade

I was just naively thinking if they match and Bailey still wants to come to us, they ask for the world and we say no knowing we can pull an ah Chee again. A little bit like the Danger situation. But you’re prob right, if they match and we don’t strike a good deal for them, he probably stays at Brissy?

 

[Velvet George]

I was just naively thinking if they match and Bailey still wants to come to us, they ask for the world and we say no knowing we can pull an ah Chee again. A little bit like the Danger situation. But you’re prob right, if they match and we don’t strike a good deal for them, he probably stays at Brissy?

If they are prepared to match, they give him the deal upfront and it doesn’t even get to that as he said he wants to stay if the deal is right.

 

[Fud#3]

I was just naively thinking if they match and Bailey still wants to come to us, they ask for the world and we say no knowing we can pull an ah Chee again. A little bit like the Danger situation. But you’re prob right, if they match and we don’t strike a good deal for them, he probably stays at Brissy?

Like the saints did, we just need to structure the deal correctly

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I can't believe we are over a decade into free agency and there are literal footy experts who get paid to express their opinion and still do not understand how free agency works, when it comes to restricted v unrestricted or what it means to match a bid.

Unbelievable

I’m sure they understand, but that doesn’t generate interest or views. So they need to throw up dumb shit like this to draw in the fans that don’t know how the system works.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I was just naively thinking if they match and Bailey still wants to come to us, they ask for the world and we say no knowing we can pull an ah Chee again. A little bit like the Danger situation. But you’re prob right, if they match and we don’t strike a good deal for them, he probably stays at Brissy?

This is not like the Dangerfield situation. Dangerfield wanted to leave, no matter the money.

Bailey wants to stay, but doesn’t want to leave big money on the table.

 

[Mostyn]

You really think Nicks game plan is based on the players we have?
I would argue that his game plan does not suit our squad at all and that it is holding us back massively.

I would assume the game plan of every professional coach in the world is based on maximising what their players can actually do.

I also think every coach in the AFL wants more speed, and our coaching staff would be exactly the same.

 

[DJ75]

I would assume the game plan of every professional coach in the world is based on maximising what their players can actually do.

I also think every coach in the AFL wants more speed, and our coaching staff would be exactly the same.

What about our game plan and our players makes you think this?

I agree it should be, but I would argue that Nicks does the exact opposite.

 

[Mostyn]

I'd trade for Wilson at the right price but if we got him, Nicks would just turn Wilson into a dull shape keeper who has to guard blades of grass just like he's done to Cumming who used to average 20+ disposals a game at GWS but barely gets 15 here...

He averaged 17.9 disposals a game at GWS, with only one year in his career above 20.

 

[119others]

Any chance you can use grammar? Your posts are off putting.

I’m saying Brisbane will take the comp pick rather than bluff a match and let him walk for nothing

will use PROPER grammar if you stop posting anything negative or mention nicks again (i find it off putting) - DEAL or NO DEAL?

but you cant bluff a match. thats the whole point. lions would need to offer up a formal contract and meet the same $ in the same years as what another nominated club does. so theres no such thing as a bluff. and if lions did indeed offer the same deal (10m over 7) he stays with them

 

[119others]

He averaged 17.9 disposals a game at GWS, with only one year in his career above 20.

and i reckon the year with the highest disposals may have also been with him often taking the kick out duties which can artificially inflate numbers. but out of all the recruits cumming has been the most underwhelming. anb great leadership and pretty much what we expected and peatling always had the highest potential upside with 7 teams wanting him to sign. recent weeks are showing how he can become an important part of our secondary midfield rotations OR become the defensive mid for us. i really like peatlings prospects from here

 

[SugarShane]

and i reckon the year with the highest disposals may have also been with him often taking the kick out duties which can artificially inflate numbers. but out of all the recruits cumming has been the most underwhelming. anb great leadership and pretty much what we expected and peatling always had the highest potential upside with 7 teams wanting him to sign. recent weeks are showing how he can become an important part of our secondary midfield rotations OR become the defensive mid for us. i really like peatlings prospects from here

I feel like ANB's on field output has been very underwhelming. But that said, we had front row seats against Freo and his leadership on field was immense. Every kick in he was the first one organising structures etc.

 

[119others]

I feel like ANB's on field output has been very underwhelming. But that said, we had front row seats against Freo and his leadership on field was immense. Every kick in he was the first one organising structures etc.

i actually made the same point the other week re his on field work but another poster pointed out he was a top 5 or 6 in the b&f last year and i also note how much defensive help he provides (up and down the ground all day) and tackling etc. and his raw numbers for disposals and goals are pretty comparable to his whole career. its just he is perhaps the least 'flashy' or exciting player in the whole team. just a real work horse and leader who i imagine would stand up big time in finals over time

ps just noticed his flag year he had exactly the same amt of disposals (16.32) as last year and (very) slightly lower goals per game

 

[Velvet George]

will use PROPER grammar if you stop posting anything negative or mention nicks again (i find it off putting) - DEAL or NO DEAL?

but you cant bluff a match. thats the whole point. lions would need to offer up a formal contract and meet the same $ in the same years as what another nominated club does. so theres no such thing as a bluff. and if lions did indeed offer the same deal (10m over 7) he stays with them

So you’re acting like a child and the English language isn’t important to you?

The bluff is leading up to and during the trade period, trade or we will match the offer. If they were prepared to meet the contract terms by matching the offer, they would do it upfront and it wouldn’t come to that, he’s indicated he wants to stay if the offer is right, it’s not that hard to comprehend.

 

[jackster83]

I feel like ANB's on field output has been very underwhelming. But that said, we had front row seats against Freo and his leadership on field was immense. Every kick in he was the first one organising structures etc.

I think he's been going as expected

He has a big game and then seems to be quiet for the next 1-2 weeks.

He is getting quite a few miles in the legs now (not cooked but just getting older) so we do need to manage him accordingly.

 

[Cromulant]

I feel like ANB's on field output has been very underwhelming. But that said, we had front row seats against Freo and his leadership on field was immense. Every kick in he was the first one organising structures etc.

Did you know much about him before he came ??

He's going as advertised.