Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[Not Important]

and in the process they are driving putin into the ground.

Ukraine’s Secret Weapon: Adaptation

Nothing beats outthinking the enemy.

www.thebulwark.com

 

[Not Important]

Vladolf Putler has chosen to end the ceasefire



There is no way that such a outright genocidal fascist can be negotiated with.

netanyahu?

 

[Zidane98]

Russians trying to forcibly confiscate property in occoupied Mariupol



Basically threatening occupied residents with criminal action under Russian law in occupied Ukraine for not handing over their property to occupation forces.


Absolutely & totally illegal in every way under international law.

 

[StFly]

Russians trying to forcibly confiscate property in occoupied Mariupol



Basically threatening occupied residents with criminal action under Russian law in occupied Ukraine for not handing over their property to occupation forces.


Absolutely & totally illegal in every way under international law.

This is where I say when Putin got sent to Germany just before the wall fell, the Russians as the one doing the collapsing;

• Had a staffer inside the building ask Moscow to send tanks to disperse a crowd as felt unsafe.
• Putin himself told citizenry if they entered that building, then they would be shot.
• Putin also quoted that they broke the furnace with the amount of bullshit that they otherwise burned to a cinder in running away home.

So par for the source for when that guy has the power everything before him is his even if it's yours and if you get in his way either himself or a staffer of his will make moves to send a military column to your face to say otherwise.

It is the Russian way. When threatened as you don't have mass, just create a crater instead. Problem solved....

 

[Zidane98]

Meanwhile Russian propagandists casually issuing threats to everyone

 

[Couch Coach]

Russia: Izmailovo Kremlin, a tourist attraction located 9km from the real Kremlin in Moscow has burned down. 3,000m² on fire - 0.75 acres.

 

[Zidane98]

Kremlin propaganda fail

 

[Baldur]

Russians trying to forcibly confiscate property in occoupied Mariupol



Basically threatening occupied residents with criminal action under Russian law in occupied Ukraine for not handing over their property to occupation forces.


Absolutely & totally illegal in every way under international law.

Let me guess that the real title documents of the occupants are in Kyiv. Yet somehow alternative title documentation has appeared in Moscow. Showing the land is owned by various Russian FSB agents and the like.

Theft in a fake legalistic framework. Typical for authoritarian klepto regimes.

 

[Zidane98]

Let me guess that the real title documents of the occupants are in Kyiv. Yet somehow alternative title documentation has appeared in Moscow. Showing the land is owned by various Russian FSB agents and the like.

Theft in a fake legalistic framework. Typical for authoritarian klepto regimes.

Common tactic in occupied Ukraine also is for Russian authorities to not allow residents access to basic services, health care, education etc unless they accept a Russian passport.


Basically Vladolf Putler is trying his best to normalise the Russiafication of occupied Ukraine. Repeating the crimes of previous Russian empires is a tradition it seems.

 

[Zidane98]

Vatniks now brainwashing from 3 years old:



Disturbing and eerily similar to Nazi Germany.

 

[Zidane98]

Ukraine going from strength to strength signing bilateral defence deals in Middle East




It must drive our resident vatniks absolutely nuts that Orange Mussolini pulling support for Ukraine has resulted in Ukraine getting stronger rather than it captitulating to Russia.

 

[Saint]

Kremlin propaganda fail

Well, Sochi is the location of a relatively recent genocide when Russia conquered the area, so perhaps this is a full-circle, where the so-called member of the public is also living on land ethnically cleansed of its original inhabitants (Circassians) in relatively modern history.

 

[Visions]

Meanwhile Russian propagandists casually issuing threats to everyone

They struggle to capture the outdoor dunny in Dobropillya 100km from the Russian border. But yeah, Berlins gonna fall to them…..

 

[Visions]

Kremlin propaganda fail

You knew it had to be fake. No chance Putin leaves his bunker to mix with normal citizens.

 

[Aussie in exile]

It can only be a matter of time before Ukraine goes full tilt at moscow unless putin enagages his brain and withdraws all russian and its allied forces from Ukraine

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[Zidane98]

Looking like Orange Mussolini and his MAGA fascist cohorts have failed to preventing aid dispensation to Ukraine

 

[Zidane98]

Too funny. According to the vatniks current Russian economic problems are simply the economy slowing back to normal after growing spectacularly

 

[Zidane98]

Fascist Russian invaders have laid siege to a Ukranian village of 200 people for 1500 days now:



Still yet to capture it.

 

[TedDougChris]

Fascist Russian invaders have laid siege to a Ukranian village of 200 people for 1500 days now:



Still yet to capture it.

A bit like this really....

 

[Saint]

Too funny. According to the vatniks current Russian economic problems are simply the economy slowing back to normal after growing spectacularly

The funny thing about measuring GDP per capita. Is that if 5% of the country is killed by COVID, runs away from conscription or is killed in war, then your GDP per capita can increase by 10%. Russia already had declining population through lower birth rates. I'm sure that has plummeted further, along with those who have left the country and died of COVID.

Now their GDP Is also slowing, the per-capita part is the only way it's going to look respectable as their population declines along with GDP.

 

[Zidane98]

This is where I say when Putin got sent to Germany just before the wall fell, the Russians as the one doing the collapsing;

• Had a staffer inside the building ask Moscow to send tanks to disperse a crowd as felt unsafe.
• Putin himself told citizenry if they entered that building, then they would be shot.
• Putin also quoted that they broke the furnace with the amount of bullshit that they otherwise burned to a cinder in running away home.

So par for the source for when that guy has the power everything before him is his even if it's yours and if you get in his way either himself or a staffer of his will make moves to send a military column to your face to say otherwise.

It is the Russian way. When threatened as you don't have mass, just create a crater instead. Problem solved....

True story - Putin thieved the washing machine from his Berlin apartment when fleeing East Germany

 

[CD Xbow]

True story - Putin thieved the washing machine from his Berlin apartment when fleeing East Germany

Russian certainly have a penchant for stolen washing machines. Is this a cultural traditions? Are clean clothes important to Russians? Perhaps it's just a case of they will steal anything that's not screwed down.

 

[Baldur]

Russian certainly have a penchant for stolen washing machines. Is this a cultural traditions? Are clean clothes important to Russians? Perhaps it's just a case of they will steal anything that's not screwed down.

Pretty much.

I recall a story from a book about the battle of berlin where a Russian peasant was stealing light bulbs. Odd given that there was almost certainly no power in the village he came from. But I suspect he thought it was a magic glowing light.

 

[CD Xbow]

This article talks about Russian willingness to negotiate a peace.

Is Russia Ready to Negotiate over Ukraine Again?

Ukraine’s leverage has grown since the August Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin summit in Alaska.

nationalinterest.org

The most interesting part is the Russian understanding and the US position led by Steve Witless. None of the claims have been officially documented. The phrase 'Sold out' is what coms to mind when reading it.

Official Russian commentary suggests that a key agreement concerns the resolution of the territorial dispute between Russia and Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin evidently came away from Anchorage believing that President Donald Trump had given assurances that he would compel Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to cede all of the Donbas to Russia, including the roughly 15 percent of the Donetsk province that Russia has not conquered.

That view has a certain ring of plausibility. Last spring, US special envoy Steve Witkoff, who has handled negotiations with the Kremlin since the beginning of the Trump administration, insisted that the territorial issue was key to the resolution of the conflict, taking precedence over the issue of Ukraine’s security guarantees and sovereignty, which most other observers thought were at least as, if not more, important.

Witkoff apparently brought a formula for settling the issue to his meeting with Putin last August that the Russian president’s foreign policy adviser dubbed “completely acceptable.” Afterward, when briefing Ukrainians and allies, Wittkoff was fuzzy about the details of what he had agreed to with Putin.

All that was clear was that Ukraine would withdraw entirely from the Donbas in exchange for territorial compensation elsewhere, including, perhaps, Putin’s abandonment of claims to the territory in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia provinces that Russia had formally annexed but did not yet control. Whatever the understanding, the Kremlin was pleased, and the two sides agreed to hold a summit meeting in short order so that they could hammer these understandings into agreements between the two presidents. The Anchorage summit is still shrouded in mystery. It was abruptly cut short after three hours of discussion between the two presidents and a small group of advisers. At a brief joint news conference, Putin and Trump said they had reached some agreements but did not elaborate further. Trump also stated, “There’s no deal until there’s a deal.” They did not issue a joint communique. That said, the Russians insist that the understandings reached at the summit were based on proposals made by Trump, and they believe that Trump pledged to compel the Ukrainians to accept them.

 

[Zidane98]

What utterly despicable fascist scum