Prediction 1 Round to go, where do we finish end of H&A? Poll included.

[M Malice]

Could not get a harder draw over the last 6 rounds, if we get top 2-4 we will certainly have earned it.

Who could come into calculations for a spot in seniors over the next 6 rounds with a view to what our best side would be come finals(if we make it)? Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

/Conor McKenna/Bruce Reville/Luke Beecken/Keidean Coleman/Henry Smith?

Is Darcy Fort

32

Darcy Fort

Age

32

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

CL

3.6

4star

HO

21.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.2

4star

HO

15.6

5star

or Oscar McInerney

46

Oscar Mcinerney

Age

31

Ht

205cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

CL

1.4

4star

HO

14.3

5star

D

6.9

1star

K

4.1

2star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

16.4

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.6

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

11.2

5star

our best main ruck option, is Sam Day

14

Sam Day

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.6

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

3.6

1star

HB

4.4

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.9

4star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.2

3star

a must pick?
I am a tad worried about our lack of height down back against the likes of the Giants, Crows and Suns come finals so is Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

an option?
Who takes Noah's tight lockdown role.. McKenna/Beecken/Fletcher/Wilmot?



Bulldogs(H)
Suns(A)
Magpies(A)
Swans(H)
Dockers(A)
Hawks(H)
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We could finish anywhere from 1st to 9th... where will we finish end of H&A?

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

KEY GAMES
My tips in CAPS

ROUND 19
BRISBANE v Western Bulldogs
COLLINGWOOD v Fremantle
ADELAIDE v Gold Coast

ROUND 20
GWS GIANTS v Sydney
GOLD COAST v Brisbane

ROUND 21
Western Bulldogs v GWS GIANTS
ADELAIDE v Hawthorn
COLLINGWOOD v Brisbane

ROUND 22
Hawthorn v COLLINGWOOD
BRISBANE v Sydney

ROUND 23
Fremantle v BRISBANE
Gold Coast v GWS GIANTS*
ADELAIDE v Collingwood

ROUND 24
WESTERN BULLDOGS v Fremantle
BRISBANE v Hawthorn
Port Adelaide v GOLD COAST

* This is a real key game, could go either way. Might be playing off for the last spot in the top 4. If my other tips go as expected, the winner of this is 4th and the loser is 6th.

Basically we need to go 5-1 to be any chance of top 4. If we do, we finish 3rd. I hope we do but it would take some luck.

 

[harvester]

I think we win 3 out of the 6 games. Finish 5th.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

I see the afl.com.au writers today have picked Freo to take the last spot ahead of Hawthorn. I think those two are most likely the ones to fight it out for that spot but I can't see Freo winning nearly enough games to get in ahead of Hawthorn.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

I think we win 3 out of the 6 games. Finish 5th.

3-3 would make us 6th for my tips.

 

[LionsOrDieTrion]

Bare minimum if we finish top 6 we are a genuine chance.

 

[twhowler]

KEY GAMES
My tips in CAPS

ROUND 19
BRISBANE v Western Bulldogs
COLLINGWOOD v Fremantle
ADELAIDE v Gold Coast

ROUND 20
GWS GIANTS v Sydney
GOLD COAST v Brisbane

ROUND 21
Western Bulldogs v GWS GIANTS
ADELAIDE v Hawthorn
COLLINGWOOD v Brisbane

ROUND 22
Hawthorn v COLLINGWOOD
BRISBANE v Sydney

ROUND 23
Fremantle v BRISBANE
Gold Coast v GWS GIANTS*
ADELAIDE v Collingwood

ROUND 24
WESTERN BULLDOGS v Fremantle
BRISBANE v Hawthorn
Port Adelaide v GOLD COAST

* This is a real key game, could go either way. Might be playing off for the last spot in the top 4. If my other tips go as expected, the winner of this is 4th and the loser is 6th.

Basically we need to go 5-1 to be any chance of top 4. If we do, we finish 3rd. I hope we do but it would take some luck.

5-1 we would be a monty to finish top 4. especially as we play teams near us. we would be a strong chance of top 2 given one of crows or suns would have to win every game to dislodge us

 

[M Malice]

Bare minimum if we finish top 6 we are a genuine chance.

I think we would find it extremely difficult to back up what we did in 2024 and win from outside the top 4 again.... without Joe and Jack and Noah.

Would be sweet though.

 

[Dalions]

I think we would find it extremely difficult to back up what we did in 2024 and win from outside the top 4 again.... without Joe and Jack and Noah.

Would be sweet though.

If we improve our Gabba form before finals, top 2 would be ideal.
Gabba Qualy
Gabba Prelim
Off the the G

 

[Tom14]

KEY GAMES
My tips in CAPS

ROUND 19
BRISBANE v Western Bulldogs
COLLINGWOOD v Fremantle
ADELAIDE v Gold Coast

ROUND 20
GWS GIANTS v Sydney
GOLD COAST v Brisbane

ROUND 21
Western Bulldogs v GWS GIANTS
ADELAIDE v Hawthorn
COLLINGWOOD v Brisbane

ROUND 22
Hawthorn v COLLINGWOOD
BRISBANE v Sydney

ROUND 23
Fremantle v BRISBANE
Gold Coast v GWS GIANTS*
ADELAIDE v Collingwood

ROUND 24
WESTERN BULLDOGS v Fremantle
BRISBANE v Hawthorn
Port Adelaide v GOLD COAST

* This is a real key game, could go either way. Might be playing off for the last spot in the top 4. If my other tips go as expected, the winner of this is 4th and the loser is 6th.

Basically we need to go 5-1 to be any chance of top 4. If we do, we finish 3rd. I hope we do but it would take some luck.

I'll believe we lose a meaningful game against Gold Coast when I see it. I'm more concerned about Freo in Perth.

 

[MSB ROYS]

1st.

 

[Dalions]

I'll believe we lose a meaningful game against Gold Coast when I see it. I'm more concerned about Freo in Perth.

Me too, I am just hoping we are in a solid position to rest a few when we travel to Perth anyway.

 

[twhowler]

i've gone 6th but my opinion will change if we win this weekend

don't reckon it's a good weekend to get the dogs

get over them and i'd be confident in every game with pies 50/50

Touk Miller

11

Touk Miller

Age

29

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

12.3

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

is out for our suns game

 

[M Malice]

If we improve our Gabba form before finals, top 2 would be ideal.
Gabba Qualy
Gabba Prelim
Off the the G

I just contorted my way through multiple iterations of the Ladder Predictor, I have us losing 2 games(Pies&Dockers) on the run home and finishing 5th and an elimination final at the Gabba v Bulldogs, I had Hawks missing the 8.

No matter which way it comes out via my calculations we have to go 5-1 to make top 4, maybe top 2 if the right upset comes along which is odds on... sometime over the final 6 rounds a top 9 club/s will lose a game or 2 to a bottom 9 club. Swans a chance of doing that, they play Giants, Cats and us, Port in the Showdown, Saints at their best are capable.

 

[Section 5]

After round 18 we sit 2nd (12.1.4 & 117%) on the ladder with some tough games to come.
Our opponents and where they sit on the ladder at this point in time.

Dogs: 9th
Suns: 6
Pies: 1
Swans: 10
Dockers: 8
Hawks: 6
Average ladder position 6.5

Round 18 last year we were 4th (10.1.6 & 120%)
Last year's opponents and where they sat on the ladder at that point in time.
We won 4 lost 2

Swans: 1st
Suns: 11
Saints: 15
Giants: 7 (L)
Pies 12: (L)
Bombers: 6
Average ladder position 8.6

I think the 8-point games are the ones we want to win. So, two wins from these 4 will help.
Suns, Pies, Dockers & Hawks

One win v Dogs and Swans a minimum.
Another way is winning the three Gabba games being Dogs, Swans & Hawks.

In summary 3 at a minimum preferably 4.

I think 3 wins might sneak us into top 4 seeing we also have that draw.

 

[Zacs_Magic_Tooth]

Reckon we’ve flicked the switch now. This week and Collingwood are the big question marks, but I can us winning the others and possibly those two as well

 

[M Malice]

After round 18 we sit 2nd (12.1.4 & 117%) on the ladder with some tough games to come.
Our opponents and where they sit on the ladder at this point in time.

Dogs: 9th
Suns: 6
Pies: 1
Swans: 10
Dockers: 8
Hawks: 6
Average ladder position 6.5

Round 18 last year we were 4th (10.1.6 & 120%)
Last year's opponents and where they sat on the ladder at that point in time.
We won 4 lost 2

Swans: 1st
Suns: 11
Saints: 15
Giants: 7 (L)
Pies 12: (L)
Bombers: 6
Average ladder position 8.6

I think the 8-point games are the ones we want to win. So, two wins from these 4 will help.
Suns, Pies, Dockers & Hawks

One win v Dogs and Swans a minimum.
Another way is winning the three Gabba games being Dogs, Swans & Hawks.

In summary 3 at a minimum preferably 4.

I think 3 wins might sneak us into top 4 seeing we also have that draw.

From my calculations no way only 3 wins sees us getting top 4, unless you have a fair share of upsets happening.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

We're .5 ahead of Adelaide and 1.5 wins ahead of Geelong.

We need to go through the last 6 games winning as many games or more as Adelaide, or no more than 1 loss more than Geelong has.

Geelong will go 6-0 bar an incredible upset. Straight away we need to go 5-1 minimum to stay ahead of them.

I think Adelaide will also go 6-0 but they could go 5-1. Collingwood should have top spot sewn up by the time they play the Crows and may not be as highly motivated to perform on the day.

GWS are also a strong chance to go 6-0 in the remaining games and I think Gold Coast will have a great chance of winning at least 5 of their last 7. They will be absolutely tearing at Brisbane next week.

I'm not saying we can't make top 4 but I do think it's starting to look less likely.

 

[Section 5]

From my calculations no way only 3 wins sees us getting top 4, unless you have a fair share of upsets happening.

I don't try and work out who beats who week to week for the next 6 weeks.
To many variables
I did mention "might sneak us into top 4". I still think it is a chance, but we must win 3 to start with.

I was just going on the last 5 years H & A finishes.
Three of the years had 23 games and two had 22 game seasons.
15 wins plus 1 draw is = 16 wins unless another draw comes along

Year	Games Played	4th Position (W-D-L)	5th Position (W-D-L)
2025 (with 3 more wins)	23	15-1-7 (Lions) is this enough	??
2024	23	15-0-8 (Giants)	14-1-8 (Lions)
2023	23	16-0-7 (Demons)	13-1-9 (Blues)
2022	22	16-0-6 (Pies)	15-1-6 (Dockers)
2021	22	15-0-7 (Lions)	15-0-7 (Dogs) 15-0-7 (6th Swans)

 

[Section 5]

Ladder predictor: Hawks to miss, Pies set for blockbuster final

AFL.com.au's team of journalists have predicted their ladders for the end of the season

www.afl.com.au

Not really a ladder predictor unless they tell us how these lists of journalists used the "predictor"

AFL.com.au's predicted ladder​

1. Collingwood
2. Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Geelong
5. Gold Coast
6. Western Bulldogs
7. Greater Western Sydney
8. Fremantle

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

I don't try and work out who beats who week to week for the next 6 weeks.
To many variables
I did mention "might sneak us into top 4". I still think it is a chance, but we must win 3 to start with.

I was just going on the last 5 years H & A finishes.
Three of the years had 23 games and two had 22 game seasons.
15 wins plus 1 draw is = 16 wins unless another draw comes along

Year	Games Played	4th Position (W-D-L)	5th Position (W-D-L)
2025 (with 3 more wins)	23	15-1-7 (Lions) is this enough	??
2024	23	15-0-8 (Giants)	14-1-8 (Lions)
2023	23	16-0-7 (Demons)	13-1-9 (Blues)
2022	22	16-0-6 (Pies)	15-1-6 (Dockers)
2021	22	15-0-7 (Lions)	15-0-7 (Dogs) 15-0-7 (6th Swans)

I know what you're saying but I don't think past seasons have much relevance. Six games to go and any games against the bottom six are practically gimmees, that's quite different to what's happened before. There's every chance 17+ wins will be required for top 4 this year.

 

[dlanod]

I know what you're saying but I don't think past seasons have much relevance. Six games to go and any games against the bottom six are practically gimmees, that's quite different to what's happened before. There's every chance 17+ wins will be required for top 4 this year.

Someone's going to drop games to Port and Sydney. But that's about as far as I'm going down the ladder.

 

[martinson]

There are going to be surprises.

I just hope it's not us and I'm hoping for 4+ wins.

Expecting 4 . Elated if more . A bit deflated if less.

 

[Miluxx]

Those 6 points we left behind between north and Melbourne are going to sting. I knew it then. Even more so now when doing the ladder predictor.

 

[rye]

Those 6 points we left behind between north and Melbourne are going to sting. I knew it then. Even more so now when doing the ladder predictor.

we played terribly those games and were lucky to walk away with 2 points between them.

adelaide and gws we win 9/10 and are much more punishing losses imo.