Delisted #11: Will "Meatball" Snelling - Delisted 25/10

[Lore]

Contract Status: Unrestricted Free Agent 2023 (previously delisted)
My Boy Draft 2023: Claim here

 

[naraku]

So, what is going to happen with this guy? Could be the end of his time in the red and black?

Nothing against him, solid and honest player but it’s a tough call that will have to be made I feel.

I hope we move him on unless he is happy to skipper and teach the VFL side.

We have to give games now to Menzie, Davey bros and Tex, so I think we should be moving Will on.

 

[eth-dog]

Not fussed either way. I'm an unabashed fan so I want him to stay but if he goes I'll move on quickly

 

[Lore]

Top 3 in the BnF to delisted in 2 years… that’d be interesting.

 

[andleanback]

Top 3 in the BnF to delisted in 2 years… that’d be interesting.

Guelfi could be on that train next year

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Would any other team in the competition pick him up if he was delisted? The answer to that question is the same as the answer to “should we keep him on the list?”

 

[quotemokc]

Would rather a big bloke that does nothing than a small bloke that does nothing.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Would any other team in the competition pick him up if he was delisted? The answer to that question is the same as the answer to “should we keep him on the list?”

Probably, he's decent enough depth at most clubs. That's what he should be here too but the rest of the list is pretty weak.

 

[faible]

I assume he’s a decision that’s pending what we do with a few others. Handy to have as a guy who works hard and you’ll know what you’ll get each week as a guy in that depth range of the 22-30th guy on the list.

 

[ant555]

Too bad his form has dropped away . He is the type of player we want as far as competing and attack on the footy but he has not come back as well as he was since he got injured a couple of times last year.

 

[brutus76]

Will be Captain-Coaching in the SANFL next year

 

[Calthorpe14]

If we’re truely ruthless, he’s gone. Although I would suggest I am biased as I’ve met the guy and he came across as a bit of a flog

 

[windyhill]

Brayden Ham

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Brayden Ham

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27

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182cm

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77kg

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Last 5

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10.7

3star

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7.7

3star

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3.0

3star

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3.1

3star

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2.0

4star

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0.6

3star

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11.5

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8.3

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3.3

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M

2.8

3star

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1.5

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0.5

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10.0

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7.2

3star

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2.8

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

with muscles.

 

[Ambrosia]

With Massimo gone are we a chance to retain Snelling?

I’m a big fan of keeping guys who actually understand their role when the opposition have the ball and aren’t total liabilities ball in hand.

 

[Pweter]

With Massimo gone are we a chance to retain Snelling?

I’m a big fan of keeping guys who actually understand their role when the opposition have the ball and aren’t total liabilities ball in hand.

I'd have no problem with him being depth if it we had enough list spaces to keep him.

Outside Snelling the small forward list is quite inexperienced and a bit of an unknown due to age/injury. Guelfi is the only one we really know about and we've seen his ceiling, then it's into Davey x2 and Wanganeen. Then if we add Gresham I'd argue we've used enough spots on small forwards which would spell the end for Snelling.

 

[faible]

With Massimo gone are we a chance to retain Snelling?

I’m a big fan of keeping guys who actually understand their role when the opposition have the ball and aren’t total liabilities ball in hand.

I imagine Snelling's spot is contingent upon the outcome of the FA and Trade periods and who comes in / what picks we're left with. If Gresham comes over then I don't think Snelling holds his spot.

 

[Vindicater]

If Gresham comes he is gone.

 

[Chambo]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

 

[Duckworth]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

Where was it reported?

 

[ghostdog]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

Prestia replacement?

 

[Lore]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

Where was it reported?

Haven't heard that but he got on really well with Truck it seems, and Truck is now.. (guess where?)

 

[faible]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

THE SKY IS FALLING

 

[Old man fletch]

I'd have no problem with him being depth if it we had enough list spaces to keep him.

Outside Snelling the small forward list is quite inexperienced and a bit of an unknown due to age/injury. Guelfi is the only one we really know about and we've seen his ceiling, then it's into Davey x2 and Wanganeen. Then if we add Gresham I'd argue we've used enough spots on small forwards which would spell the end for Snelling.

Re Guelfi, the problem isn't his ceiling, its his ability to stay around there. If he can regain his 2022 form, he's more than depth.

I see Snelling and Guelfi playing a similar role, more of a pressure high HF than a small forward.

Agree with your comment on depth and list spots. Snelling provides tackling pressure which covers for our midfields lack of defensive effort at times. In a side with a defensively accountable midfield, Snellings role is redundant. Remains to be seen whether Scott can build that accountability into the midfield

 

[Godzke]

Re Guelfi, the problem isn't his ceiling, its his ability to stay around there. If he can regain his 2022 form, he's more than depth.

I see Snelling and Guelfi playing a similar role, more of a pressure high HF than a small forward.

Agree with your comment on depth and list spots. Snelling provides tackling pressure which covers for our midfields lack of defensive effort at times. In a side with a defensively accountable midfield, Snellings role is redundant. Remains to be seen whether Scott can build that accountability into the midfield

I wouldn't say his role is redundant, there will always be a role for small forwards.

The problem with Guelfi and Snelling is that they are so rarely a threat with ball in hand. So the opposition put their best running backs on them and play off them. That means someone like Guelfi needs to work twice as hard to chase down an opponent compared to someone like Gresham, who needs to be more closely marked in forward 50.

That's why they (Guelfi and Snelling) are ironically part of the defensive problem we have. Because their opponents can run off them knowing they'll do little damage going the other way on the counter attack, which then means they outnumber our mids who don't know if they are defending space or a man.

 

[Milanista28]

Reports he is off to Richmond?

Has anyone told the Tigers?

 

[Old man fletch]

I wouldn't say his role is redundant, there will always be a role for small forwards.

The problem with Guelfi and Snelling is that they are so rarely a threat with ball in hand. So the opposition put their best running backs on them and play off them. That means someone like Guelfi needs to work twice as hard to chase down an opponent compared to someone like Gresham, who needs to be more closely marked in forward 50.

That's why they (Guelfi and Snelling) are ironically part of the defensive problem we have. Because their opponents can run off them knowing they'll do little damage going the other way on the counter attack, which then means they outnumber our mids who don't know if they are defending space or a man.

Not sure he's a small forward. Plays more up the ground and rarely as a crumber which is what we really need.

Re Gresham, I haven't watched enough saints games to make an honest assessment of his game to know if he's worth getting or not and whether he fills a genuine need.

Good point for the role of Snelling and Guelfi on their defensive efforts (HBF run off them as they're not forced to be accountable). Chicken and egg thing. Think that Guelfi in 2022 forced defenders to be accountable or at least hurt them when the weren't (avg 4.9 SI, 0.9 G, 0.4B) and was surprised to see Snellings best in 2021 was comparable (avg 5 SI, 0.5G, 0.4B).

The gameplan that Scott wants us to play dictates whether Guelfi/Snelling are important or not. Does he want manic forward pressure forcing opposition HBF to be accountable, or does he want a small forward/HBF that pushes up more to support the midfield.

In an ideal world you have player capable of doing both, and maybe in the future we will with Davey/Wanganeen/Menzie/Snelling/Guelfi/undrafted player although current viewing suggests not with our current list.

A smart coach figures out the cattle they have (or want if they're in a rebuilding phase) and tailors a gameplan that works to the strengths of the players they have. Yet to be seen if we have the cattle, or a coach that has the right gameplan and the ability to maximise the talents of the players on our list,