1982

[Smoky]

every week

 

[Smoky]

Wes Fellows won a Copeland!

 

[Smoky]

Big Wes!

 

[tess]

Big Wes played 9 years won a Copeland and is NOT a life member, figure that out. Oh and Phillips from Port if I remember rightly, first name Greg. As for Heath well what a player what a player.

 

[kevind]

Mike Richardson #17 ... Gun, went to the Bears, maybe debuted in 85?

... someone phillips went to brisbane also... after taking mark of the year... who was that dude? Mike?

(P.S; How good was Heath Shepard's mark!)

Smoky, Mike Richardson was a fitness fanatic very much like a midfield running player of today eg the Burgoynes of Port Adelaide. Unfortunately the club hit a finacial crisis in the mid 80's after a huge spending spree on Richmond players such as Raines and Cloke(which we can now thank as we ended up with Travis because of it).

The bank threatened to close the club down if stringent financial conditions were not met. The club subsequently decided to ask players to take a pay cut. All agreed except for Richardson and Raines, who were quickly cleared to Essendon. The Bombers at that stage were awesome, but the arrival of Raines and Richardson put several of the players noses out of joint, particualry as they had cleared a couple of popular players as part of the deal. It probably cost Essendon at least one flag during that period. Interestingly, Raines and Richardson never like each other and had had a punch up in the showers after training one night over Richrdson's girlfriend, the pop singer Collen Hewitt.

As for Heath Shepherd, his father Graeme played for the Pies in the early 70's and was a reasonable player, best known for downing about 18 cans of beer after each game. Heath was very talented but also found the booze and the **** far too tempting. Was the mark you are talking about taken over Alex Ischenko in the right forward pocket at the Social club end of Vic Park??? I remember seeing that one from the terraces of the social club. WE all looked at each other hoping that it was to herald the birth of a new star.

 

[Smoky]

Smoky, Mike Richardson was a fitness fanatic very much like a midfield running player of today eg the Burgoynes of Port Adelaide. Unfortunately the club hit a finacial crisis in the mid 80's after a huge spending spree on Richmond players such as Raines and Cloke(which we can now thank as we ended up with Travis because of it).

The bank threatened to close the club down if stringent financial conditions were not met. The club subsequently decided to ask players to take a pay cut. All agreed except for Richardson and Raines, who were quickly cleared to Essendon. The Bombers at that stage were awesome, but the arrival of Raines and Richardson put several of the players noses out of joint, particualry as they had cleared a couple of popular players as part of the deal. It probably cost Essendon at least one flag during that period. Interestingly, Raines and Richardson never like each other and had had a punch up in the showers after training one night over Richrdson's girlfriend, the pop singer Collen Hewitt.

As for Heath Shepherd, his father Graeme played for the Pies in the early 70's and was a reasonable player, best known for downing about 18 cans of beer after each game. Heath was very talented but also found the booze and the **** far too tempting. Was the mark you are talking about taken over Alex Ischenko in the right forward pocket at the Social club end of Vic Park??? I remember seeing that one from the terraces of the social club. WE all looked at each other hoping that it was to herald the birth of a new star.

Yeah mate... I was in the Ryder stand.

 

[Bombermania]

The trouble started at the 1981 Grand Final night club function. Tom Hafey was scathing of certain players for letting the club down, principally Peter Moore. Peter Moore pulled a hamstring in one the finals and hence was played at full forward, where he had no impact what so ever in the Grand Final, and was badly beaten by a very ordinary player called Scott Howell.

As captain of the club, Hafey felt Moore had not shown the required leadership. Certain players were also complaining openely about Hafey's fitness demands with constant whingeing about how hard training was during the finals. Interestingly, Richmond players who won 4 premierships under Hafey from 1967-1974 did not share the same criticisms.

Peter Moore subsequently began lobbying players to join him in a delegation to go to the club to demand that Hafey be sacked. Most players sided with Moore, most notably except for Billy Picken, a CHB who was our best player in almost every final we played during the Hafey regime.

The following year, the issue came to a head when Hafey fronted Peter Moore at his Eltham home and a punch up was only narrowly avoided between coach and captain. An uneasy truce was negotiated, but before halfway through the season, Hafey's position had become untenable, particularly when his assistant coach, Mick Erwin, also began undermining his authority by lobbying for the senior job. Hafey was soon sacked, but the instability had divided the playing group and led to a wasted year. During this period, Peter Moore, our captain and Brownlow Medallist been negotiating with Melbourne and duly ended up a Demon the very next year.

Incensed by the poaching of our captain, we responded by offering an enormous sum of money to a Melbourne ruckman by the name of Glem McLean. To sum up McLean's ability, I would venture that he was a poor man's Guy Richards.

I was at the 1981 GF, and before the end of 1982 had developed a serious dislike of Peter Moore. I was also at the 1990 GF and whilst joyfully winding my way out of the Great Northern Stand to the theme song of 'Good Old Collingwood Forever', I was forcefull tapped on the shoulder by a guy who inquired "Hey Mate, would you help me carry my paraplegic brother down the stairs?" "Of Course", I replied. Having watched the Pies win the big one, I would have been prepared to climb mountains of broken glass had he so asked.

Consequently, I helped Peter Moore carry his brother down to the bottom of the old Great Northern Stand. Between the huffing and puffing(mostly all mine) I found Peter to be lovely bloke and as pleased as I was that the Pies had finally won a flag. He even took my loaded statement 'this side's got real character!' in good humour.

Sorry to bore readers with further self absorbed moments but 3 am the next morning, there were about 5 of us left in the bar in the Collingwood Social Club when Darren Millane appeared from nowhere,his broken hand bandaged to the hilt whilst the other hand held the Premiership Cup. He jumped up onto the bar and led the 5 of us into a rousing version of Good Old Collingwood For Ever. Fond memories......ah!!!!!!!!!

Its interesting post like these that makes Bigfooty

 

[kevind]

Its interesting post like these that makes Bigfooty

Thanks mate. Commiserations for the Bombers today. They are missing a few vital players such as Lucas, Mc Veigh and Davey and perhaps struggling a little with the demands of the new game plan.

As an opposition supporter, I find it hard to dislike the Bombers. Their work in promoting indigineous players and ANzac Day is highly admirable. Every time I hear other teams supporters whingeing about Anzac Day, it gets right up my nose. It was the Bombers and the Pies that promoted the life out of this fixture and there are no other clubs that could even dream of making this a special day, as I hope it will always be. Judd is a ________ for not going to either the Pies or Bombers.

 

[Vampire013]

From memory Tom Hafey was sacked halfway through the season on "advice" from the Captain Peter Moore who then left and went to Melbourne anyway. A caretaker coach was installed and his name is on the tip of my tounge ..... Mick Erwin thats him. Anyway in 83 Jack Cahill came over to the real Magpies from Port and coached us into 3rd spot and Essendon beat us by a then record margin in a Prelim.

and I went to that bloody prelim.
Biggest nightmare of my life.

We lost by 150 points.

 

[kevind]

and I went to that bloody prelim.
Biggest nightmare of my life.

We lost by 150 points.

Luckily , I missed that one as the wife had a speeding charge to defend in Bright early Monday morning, so I watched the game at the Albury Country Club. It was really disappointing beacause Diacs and the boys had stitched up the Blues the previuos week.

I remember that John Cahill took the team out on the field at VFL Park after the game and demanded "I want to know where all the holes are in which you guys hid all day".

Still the Bombers were on their way to be a superpower in 84.

 

[The Majestic]

The trouble started at the 1981 Grand Final night club function. Tom Hafey was scathing of certain players for letting the club down, principally Peter Moore. Peter Moore pulled a hamstring in one the finals and hence was played at full forward, where he had no impact what so ever in the Grand Final, and was badly beaten by a very ordinary player called Scott Howell.

As captain of the club, Hafey felt Moore had not shown the required leadership. Certain players were also complaining openely about Hafey's fitness demands with constant whingeing about how hard training was during the finals. Interestingly, Richmond players who won 4 premierships under Hafey from 1967-1974 did not share the same criticisms.

Peter Moore subsequently began lobbying players to join him in a delegation to go to the club to demand that Hafey be sacked. Most players sided with Moore, most notably except for Billy Picken, a CHB who was our best player in almost every final we played during the Hafey regime.

The following year, the issue came to a head when Hafey fronted Peter Moore at his Eltham home and a punch up was only narrowly avoided between coach and captain. An uneasy truce was negotiated, but before halfway through the season, Hafey's position had become untenable, particularly when his assistant coach, Mick Erwin, also began undermining his authority by lobbying for the senior job. Hafey was soon sacked, but the instability had divided the playing group and led to a wasted year. During this period, Peter Moore, our captain and Brownlow Medallist been negotiating with Melbourne and duly ended up a Demon the very next year.

Incensed by the poaching of our captain, we responded by offering an enormous sum of money to a Melbourne ruckman by the name of Glem McLean. To sum up McLean's ability, I would venture that he was a poor man's Guy Richards.

I was at the 1981 GF, and before the end of 1982 had developed a serious dislike of Peter Moore. I was also at the 1990 GF and whilst joyfully winding my way out of the Great Northern Stand to the theme song of 'Good Old Collingwood Forever', I was forcefull tapped on the shoulder by a guy who inquired "Hey Mate, would you help me carry my paraplegic brother down the stairs?" "Of Course", I replied. Having watched the Pies win the big one, I would have been prepared to climb mountains of broken glass had he so asked.

Consequently, I helped Peter Moore carry his brother down to the bottom of the old Great Northern Stand. Between the huffing and puffing(mostly all mine) I found Peter to be lovely bloke and as pleased as I was that the Pies had finally won a flag. He even took my loaded statement 'this side's got real character!' in good humour.

Sorry to bore readers with further self absorbed moments but 3 am the next morning, there were about 5 of us left in the bar in the Collingwood Social Club when Darren Millane appeared from nowhere,his broken hand bandaged to the hilt whilst the other hand held the Premiership Cup. He jumped up onto the bar and led the 5 of us into a rousing version of Good Old Collingwood For Ever. Fond memories......ah!!!!!!!!!

Nice story, it wasn't boring at all I found it to be a good read, and good on you for helping him with his brother as well.

I have always been fond of reading about the history of not only the CFC, but the AFL in general, and always liked listening to other peoples stories on the club, and league. Much like Tommy Hafey in the 100 years of AFL dvd I have he said that he convinced Kevin Bartlett to stay at the Tigers in 1980, since Bartlett came to him and said he had wanted to leave the Tigers, and instead of leaving he lead the Tigers in a smashing of us.

My memory is hazy, I was only four years old.

I was -2

But didn't the Bombers also beat is in 84? I was told that Collingwood had been beaten by the Bombers in 84 as well in a finals match...cannot remember which it was may have been Elimination final?

 

[mianfei]

Hi, I was just reviewing a bit of AFL history and noticed that in 1982 Collingwood only won four games after making the Grand Final in 1981. Was there any particular reason for this or was it just a massive form slump?

A long run of injuries hit Collingwood during the 1982 season. They used 43 players in the seniors.

Rene Kink played only five games, Peter Moore in his last season before departing for Melbourne played just ten, Kevin Worthington just eight, whilst Ray Byrne and Billy Picken each missed seven games. Boom 1981 buy Graeme Allan – previously of Fitzroy – played only twelve games, and another 1981 boom player in David Twomey played only three games in 1982 and only seven in 1983. Mark Weideman – like Twomey a member of a famous Magpie footballing family – had been an integral part of the 1981 side but played just twice in 1982. Former runaway Brownlow winner and new buy from the Swans, Graham Teasdale, missed nine games with injury in 1982.

You actually only finished third last. Footscray only won three games and St. Kilda also won four but with a lesser percentage. Collingwood’s percentage was 85. Pretty high for a team that won 4 and lost 18. Must have had quite a few narrow losses or a few big wins.

Several narrow losses:

• 3 points against Fitzroy in Round 6
• 7 points (with more goals) against Melbourne in Round 10
• 11 points v Essendon in Round 17
• 5 points v Sydney in Round 18

In fact, whereas:

• Footscray lost eleven games by over forty points and four (still an equal record) by over 100 points
• St. Kilda lost eleven games by over forty points and one by over 100 points
• Collingwood lost only three games by over forty points:
  • to Geelong in Round 1 by 88 points
  • to Essendon in Round 7 by 55 points
  • to Melbourne in Round 21 by 54 points

It’s really remarkable how Collingwood in its two four-win seasons of 1982 and 1999 lost just one game (their first in 1982) by over ten goals! 1982 is more remarkable given that its average score of 112 points per team per game remains six points higher than any other VFL/AFL season in history and 17 points higher than in 1999.

 

[raymond35]

What a crappy season. My one good memory was Wally Lovetts spectacular goal against Footscray that ended with Kevin Worthington holding him up on his shoulders as the Sherrin Stand erupted.
Other than that, bubkus.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Old old thread re-booted.
Who can be sure why.

On the above, the year being 1982 the Copeland was NOT won by Wes Fellowes but by a youngish whipper snipper Peter Daicos.

Fellowes had his Copeland four years later, 1986 and if memory serves beat Bruce Abernathy.
Fellowes not a great player by any stretch but did have a good year. For it’s worth.

 

[magpie_marty]

Well Did the great late Millane play in 1982 I highly doubt it!

 

[35Daicos]

Well Did the great late Millane play in 1982 I highly doubt it!

No: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/1982.html#4
He debuted in 1984 (just a few days short of turning 19): https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/D/Darren_Millane.html

 

[raymond35]

Old old thread re-booted.
Who can be sure why.

On the above, the year being 1982 the Copeland was NOT won by Wes Fellowes but by a youngish whipper snipper Peter Daicos.

Fellowes had his Copeland four years later, 1986 and if memory serves beat Bruce Abernathy.
Fellowes not a great player by any stretch but did have a good year. For it’s worth.

Worth rebooting to see a comment from Joffas old mate Tess. I'd forgotten about her.

 

[sirlothie]

Still figuring out how to wipe my arse in 1982, sorry can't help much.

 

[The Dice Man]

Interestingly we have a thread on the Tigers board that is an old one that's been quoted in the last few days about what happened after 1982 at Punt Rd. Collingwood feature highly in that topic.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Still figuring out how to wipe my arse in 1982, sorry can't help much.

Did you get the hang of it?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Interestingly we have a thread on the Tigers board that is an old one that's been quoted in the last few days about what happened after 1982 at Punt Rd. Collingwood feature highly in that topic.

For some reason Tigers seem a little preoccupied with Magpies.

I really felt for Francis Bourke that year. Might have been one that got away a bit.

Though it might have had something to do with an antipathy I have for Carlton.

 

[sirlothie]

Did you get the hang of it?

Getting there...

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Getting there...

It’s the small things

 

[jackcass]

Still figuring out how to wipe my arse in 1982, sorry can't help much.

What's changed?

 

[sirlothie]

What's changed?

I'm on the can as we speak so practise makes perfect.