1990 GF - Statistically Revisited

[Lonie_from_50]

Sorry for the delay, here are the final stats...can't find the 4th Q score sheet, when i do, will post!

Full Time - 1990 Grand Final Collingwood v Essendon

 

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it was a high posession game back then!

I have noticed that in a number of matches I have watched on tape whether it be SANFL or VFL/AFL that there were fewer (and shorter) stoppages and a more continuous play before say the mid-90s. The record I know of with the most possessions in a match by both teams is 789 - 396 to Essendon and 393 to Adelaide in Round 9 1993 and in the SANFL it is 786 by Port and West in Round 1 of that year.

P.S - these are newspaper stats.

 

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Looking at the tackle count, another thing I have noticed is that the tackles in that era more often produced a free kick or play on situation than now. i.e. less ball ups.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Yeah, so true

 

[jefffff34]

What was the total amount of spoils by Paul Hamilton?

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Didn't do Essendon's stats Hoggy, but I could always check another day for you.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Another quality thread from you Mike, well done

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Cheers mate,

will be doing another one quite like this, Collingwood v Adelaide, 2002 PF

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Cheers mate,

will be doing another one quite like this, Collingwood v Adelaide, 2002 PF

Awesome. Particulary like the QF vs Port and Round 18 vs Carlton in that year as well

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Dunno if i have our QF v Port, but pretty sure I have Bucks 200th game, pretty sure that was when we gave Carlton that thumping. I say pretty sure I have it, because I have a tape titled, Bucks 200th, Collingwood v Carlton, yet, may have been taped over, their is a 755 chance, and if it has been taped over, probably a 25% chance the Port game could be on there, LOL

 

[Johnson#26]

Lol you're lucky to have all the videos from 02/03, LF50. I had them, then was foolish enough to tape over them.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Fox Footy was good over the summer, too bad I didn't tape any, should have!

 

[Johnson#26]

Yes - I got my uncle to tape a few of the matches.

Fox footy - upcoming Pies games next 7 days

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Watched Coll v WB late last night, seeing Lokan kick a couple rippers, and Rawlings miss kicking a bag of 8, instead something like 3.7

Cheers for the list Luke

 

[Johnson#26]

Ah yes. I've got most 2004 and 2005 matches on tape (unless I was at the game). Lokan kicked off 2004 in good fashion before tapering off.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Sun Silk ruined his career , as did himself, when Lokan decided to sponsor the club as Crazy John

 

[jefffff34]

My preference, if you were going to do this such thing, would be game that were pre 1998 or something like that, before clangers and clearances were actually tallied by Champion Data.

Get the 1990 Series Finals Pack.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Would love to get the Finals Pack, may have to invest in it

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of pre-98, but the games are limited in my library, if any. I want to order N-A-G, but not only expensive, it is credit card payments, and I can't do that, Parents won't let me, not getting my own just yet.

 

[Johnson#26]

I used to have plenty of 1997 matches....round 9 vs Sydney, round 11 vs WCE, round 13 vs Brisbane, round 21 vs Adelaide. I wish now that I'd never taped over them!

 

[Cyclops]

That stat of 59 tackles says it all. The kick/handball ratio is good, and the sheer number of goals from frees and 50s indicates what a harsh game it was then.

 

[Madd Matt]

I have almost every game Collingwood has won since about 1989. Of course, they aren't full replays, because until Foxtel came along with full match coverage, we just had the 90 minute 6pm-7:30pm Saturday Night Reply on Seven, so there are years of just 'highlights' of wins, but then I think the last four or so years we've got most wins. All taped straight from TV or Foxtel.

Not sure what to do with them all, though. Especially since pre-1990 is on Beta!

 

[Lonie_from_50]

Pretty handy collection there Matt, good to hand down to the kids/grand-kids

 

[jefffff34]

I have almost every game Collingwood has won since about 1989. Of course, they aren't full replays, because until Foxtel came along with full match coverage, we just had the 90 minute 6pm-7:30pm Saturday Night Reply on Seven, so there are years of just 'highlights' of wins, but then I think the last four or so years we've got most wins. All taped straight from TV or Foxtel.

Round 1 1989, 10 point victory over the reigning champions (Hawthorn) at Waverley...you got that? If you do, any way you could make a torrent of it?

Not sure what to do with them all, though. Especially since pre-1990 is on Beta!

Yeah the Beta thing never really took off did it? I'm sure there is some way to convert it over though nowadays.

I'll make a list of full games of the Pies that I have on tape, back in a few.

 

[jefffff34]

Here's my Pies library...

1977 Grand Final vs Kangaroos
1990 Qual Final Replay vs West Coast
1990 Semi Final vs Essendon
1990 Grand Final vs Essendon
1991 Round 20 vs Brisbane
1992 Round 13 vs West Coast
1994 Round 2 vs Carlton
1995 Round 4 vs Essendon
1997 Round 1 vs Port Adelaide
1998 Round 16 vs Hawthorn
1999 Round 8 vs Fremantle
1999 Round 13 vs St.Kilda
2000 Round 5 vs Western Bulldogs
2000 Round 21 vs Kangaroos
2001 Ansett Cup vs St.Kilda
2001 Ansett Cup vs West Coast
2001 Round 3 vs Western Bulldogs
2001 Round 8 vs Port Adelaide
2001 Round 11 vs Melbourne
2001 Round 12 vs West Coast
2001 Round 13 vs Adelaide
2001 Round 17 vs Fremantle
2001 Round 22 vs Kangaroos

+ every win from 2002 onwards (including pre-season), and also both our Grand Final losses

 

[jefffff34]

Would love to get the Finals Pack, may have to invest in it

Well worth it, AFL Video are getting rid of their VHS stock, get it for pretty cheap.

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of pre-98, but the games are limited in my library, if any. I want to order N-A-G, but not only expensive, it is credit card payments, and I can't do that, Parents won't let me, not getting my own just yet.

Go to the showroom, off Lorimer St in Port Melbourne, the official address would be on the website. You said you're going to uni at Footscray Park, it would be a 10 minute bus trip there in a lunch break I reckon.

Of course being a former employee and getting discounts helps.