2003 squad review, by me

[Asgardian]

G’day Freo types, I’m back to do the 2003 season review of your playing squad.

One thing initially worries about Freo’s squad, is the number of players short of a complete list you will start the season with. We all know injuries will happen, so having 3 fewer players than your peers must be of concern. Yes, I know it is because of salary cap, oh well, rant one completed.

Peter Bell - Quality midfielder, on the slow side, but he gets lots of ball
Andrew Browne - Hasn’t shown much, does he have the coach’s confidence?
Matthew Carr - Better as a run-with player, so-so skills, gets lots of ball
Troy Cook - Negated easily, lousy skills, but is a tough nut
Trent Croad - IMO a better ruck-rover than key position, fine player
Ryan Crowley - New kid, yet to see him play
Ben Cunningham - Has skill & dash, but disappears, experience will fix that
Brett Doswell - New kid, yet to see him play
Greg Edgcumbe - New kid, yet to see him play
Jeff Farmer - 29 goals is not a great return for a big contract player
Antoni Grover - You guys like him, I don’t, time will tell
Robert Haddrill - Hit a brick wall in 2002, will have to fight hard
Daniel Haines - A likely looking type, has skill and guts, I like that
Paul Haselby - Quality player, but never seemed totally healthy
Roger Hayden - Want to see more before I make up my mind, has skill & pace
Des Headland - Fine addition will compliment the ball getters
Anthony Jones - Injury prone, others have moved ahead of him now
Steven Koops - Flashy, 2002 stats weren’t great, but did a good consistent job
Justin Longmuir - Fine prospect, yet to light up, he needs freedom of position
Troy Longmuir - Started well, but fell in a hole, lucky to still be on list
Shaun McManus - Has heart, but lousy skills, lousy decision making - DUD
Luke McPharlin - Showed his worth, not 100% if he is a defender or forward yet
Paul Medhurst - Will challenge to be the best goalsneak in the game, flair & talent
Shane Parker - Mr Negative, does the job that Freo needs
Matthew Pavlich - Freo’s champ, CHB or CHF ?, can do either
Graham Polak - Yet to show why all the fuss, I want to see more to make up my mind
Aaron Sandilands - Huge new kid, yet to see him play, who pays his food bills?
Byron Schammer - New kid, has it all, except height, he’ll make it
Andrew Siegert - The coach likes him, I don’t, Freo has better options IMO
Troy Simmonds - I got him wrong, played damn well in 2002
Scott Thornton - Shown nothing, problem away from Vic? make or break in 2003
Luke Toia - Has guts, but Freo don’t need him, nor does anyone else
James Walker - Inconspicuous player, doesn’t do enough, neat with what he does do
Clive Waterhouse - The enigma, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane & Tarzan 50% / 50%
Dion Woods - Slow start to 2002, but came on strong, like the look of him

2003 HAS to be Freo’s break through season, it MUST reach the finals, or its credibility will go out the window. From the look of the list, I’d say that a top 8 position is there for the taking.

I’m not doing my predictions yet, not until I have completed all clubs, at this stage though it looks positive for you guys.

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by Asgardian
G’day Freo types, I’m back to do the 2003 season review of your playing squad.

One thing initially worries about Freo’s squad, is the number of players short of a complete list you will start the season with. We all know injuries will happen, so having 3 fewer players than your peers must be of concern. Yes, I know it is because of salary cap, oh well, rant one completed.

Peter Bell - Quality midfielder, on the slow side, but he gets lots of ball
Andrew Browne - Hasn’t shown much, does he have the coach’s confidence?
Matthew Carr - Better as a run-with player, so-so skills, gets lots of ball
Troy Cook - Negated easily, lousy skills, but is a tough nut
Trent Croad - IMO a better ruck-rover than key position, fine player
Ryan Crowley - New kid, yet to see him play
Ben Cunningham - Has skill & dash, but disappears, experience will fix that
Brett Doswell - New kid, yet to see him play
Greg Edgcumbe - New kid, yet to see him play
Jeff Farmer - 29 goals is not a great return for a big contract player
Antoni Grover - You guys like him, I don’t, time will tell
Robert Haddrill - Hit a brick wall in 2002, will have to fight hard
Daniel Haines - A likely looking type, has skill and guts, I like that
Paul Haselby - Quality player, but never seemed totally healthy
Roger Hayden - Want to see more before I make up my mind, has skill & pace
Des Headland - Fine addition will compliment the ball getters
Anthony Jones - Injury prone, others have moved ahead of him now
Steven Koops - Flashy, 2002 stats weren’t great, but did a good consistent job
Justin Longmuir - Fine prospect, yet to light up, he needs freedom of position
Troy Longmuir - Started well, but fell in a hole, lucky to still be on list
Shaun McManus - Has heart, but lousy skills, lousy decision making - DUD
Luke McPharlin - Showed his worth, not 100% if he is a defender or forward yet
Paul Medhurst - Will challenge to be the best goalsneak in the game, flair & talent
Shane Parker - Mr Negative, does the job that Freo needs
Matthew Pavlich - Freo’s champ, CHB or CHF ?, can do either
Graham Polak - Yet to show why all the fuss, I want to see more to make up my mind
Aaron Sandilands - Huge new kid, yet to see him play, who pays his food bills?
Byron Schammer - New kid, has it all, except height, he’ll make it
Andrew Siegert - The coach likes him, I don’t, Freo has better options IMO
Troy Simmonds - I got him wrong, played damn well in 2002
Scott Thornton - Shown nothing, problem away from Vic? make or break in 2003
Luke Toia - Has guts, but Freo don’t need him, nor does anyone else
James Walker - Inconspicuous player, doesn’t do enough, neat with what he does do
Clive Waterhouse - The enigma, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane & Tarzan 50% / 50%
Dion Woods - Slow start to 2002, but came on strong, like the look of him

2003 HAS to be Freo’s break through season, it MUST reach the finals, or its credibility will go out the window. From the look of the list, I’d say that a top 8 position is there for the taking.

I’m not doing my predictions yet, not until I have completed all clubs, at this stage though it looks positive for you guys.

Pfft....

 

[sabre_ac]

Firstly Chris let me say you did a good job on the whole just a few things I wont to point out

Originally posted by Asgardian


Andrew Browne - Hasn’t shown much, does he have the coach’s confidence?

Once fit I see this kid having a big career, fast reciever type player that is underated

Originally posted by Asgardian


Troy Cook - Negated easily, lousy skills, but is a tough nut

He gets a bad rap from all people non freo. My opinino his skils arnt that bad.He is tough in and under player that when he hits a player they stay hit. Vital to the success of the club as we lack his hardness.

Originally posted by Asgardian


Antoni Grover - You guys like him, I don’t, time will tell

Has taken over parker as one of the most underated players in the competition. Is extremely fast and runs the lines, a solid defender that will replace Parker when he leaves.

Originally posted by Asgardian


Robert Haddrill - Hit a brick wall in 2002, will have to fight hard

Even most freo supporters dont rate this guy, probally due to his prolonged disapearance from the team. From what I remeber of him he had solid skills and could take the big marks down back.I personally see him as the player to free up Pavlich.

Originally posted by Asgardian


Paul Medhurst - Will challenge to be the best goalsneak in the game, flair & talent

Agreed better player than Milne in my opinion.

Originally posted by Asgardian




Graham Polak - Yet to show why all the fuss, I want to see more to make up my mind

All the fuss will be shown this season, tall talented Key Position player of hte likes that are becoming harder and harder to find. Sill could be teh best player to come out of the 2001 draft.

Originally posted by Asgardian


Clive Waterhouse - The enigma, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane & Tarzan 50% / 50%

Will shine this season now that the pressure of number 1 forward has been removed.
He is a impact player that will never be conssitent. Can kick four in the space of 10 mins and then will dispear.

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by Asgardian
G’day Freo types, I’m back to do the 2003 season review of your playing squad.

One thing initially worries about Freo’s squad, is the number of players short of a complete list you will start the season with. We all know injuries will happen, so having 3 fewer players than your peers must be of concern. Yes, I know it is because of salary cap, oh well, rant one completed.

Peter Bell - Quality midfielder, on the slow side, but he gets lots of ball
Andrew Browne - Hasn’t shown much, does he have the coach’s confidence?
Matthew Carr - Better as a run-with player, so-so skills, gets lots of ball
Troy Cook - Negated easily, lousy skills, but is a tough nut
Trent Croad - IMO a better ruck-rover than key position, fine player
Ryan Crowley - New kid, yet to see him play
Ben Cunningham - Has skill & dash, but disappears, experience will fix that
Brett Doswell - New kid, yet to see him play
Greg Edgcumbe - New kid, yet to see him play
Jeff Farmer - 29 goals is not a great return for a big contract player
Antoni Grover - You guys like him, I don’t, time will tell
Robert Haddrill - Hit a brick wall in 2002, will have to fight hard
Daniel Haines - A likely looking type, has skill and guts, I like that
Paul Haselby - Quality player, but never seemed totally healthy
Roger Hayden - Want to see more before I make up my mind, has skill & pace
Des Headland - Fine addition will compliment the ball getters
Anthony Jones - Injury prone, others have moved ahead of him now
Steven Koops - Flashy, 2002 stats weren’t great, but did a good consistent job
Justin Longmuir - Fine prospect, yet to light up, he needs freedom of position
Troy Longmuir - Started well, but fell in a hole, lucky to still be on list
Shaun McManus - Has heart, but lousy skills, lousy decision making - DUD
Luke McPharlin - Showed his worth, not 100% if he is a defender or forward yet
Paul Medhurst - Will challenge to be the best goalsneak in the game, flair & talent
Shane Parker - Mr Negative, does the job that Freo needs
Matthew Pavlich - Freo’s champ, CHB or CHF ?, can do either
Graham Polak - Yet to show why all the fuss, I want to see more to make up my mind
Aaron Sandilands - Huge new kid, yet to see him play, who pays his food bills?
Byron Schammer - New kid, has it all, except height, he’ll make it
Andrew Siegert - The coach likes him, I don’t, Freo has better options IMO
Troy Simmonds - I got him wrong, played damn well in 2002
Scott Thornton - Shown nothing, problem away from Vic? make or break in 2003
Luke Toia - Has guts, but Freo don’t need him, nor does anyone else
James Walker - Inconspicuous player, doesn’t do enough, neat with what he does do
Clive Waterhouse - The enigma, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane & Tarzan 50% / 50%
Dion Woods - Slow start to 2002, but came on strong, like the look of him

2003 HAS to be Freo’s break through season, it MUST reach the finals, or its credibility will go out the window. From the look of the list, I’d say that a top 8 position is there for the taking.

I’m not doing my predictions yet, not until I have completed all clubs, at this stage though it looks positive for you guys.

Not a bad job Asguardian. I'll post my review of each player, later on tonight.

 

[S.J Rollin]

Originally posted by Asgardian
G’day Freo types, I’m back to do the 2003 season review of your playing squad.
Jeff Farmer - 29 goals is not a great return for a big contract player

isn't this a 2002 review???

 

[Asgardian]

Okay, I'll flesh it out for you

Jeff Farmer is one of Freo's highest paid players, however his Freo results thus far have not justified his lofty position. A return of only 29 goals from a player recruited specifically for his goal scoring abilities, is so far a colossal waste of money.

The above is all fact, it should not be disputed by anyone.

The speculation part of my comments, whilst unsaid, where I believed to be crystal clear. My opinion is that Jeff is an over-paid, under-performing distraction to your team. Yes, he has moments of brillance, he also has holidays on the park.

In 2003 season, I consider Jeff to be only an occasional contributor, if your team wants to tolerate that kind of production, that is your business, but personally I'd get rid of the guy.

 

[dockertor]

Originally posted by Asgardian

Shaun McManus - Has heart, but lousy skills, lousy decision making - DUD

Gunna get shot for this by the faithfull but I agree with you Asgardian and have been saying that for years. He didn't have a bad season last year though, disposal was a bit better

 

[noodle]

Re: Re: 2003 squad review, by me

Originally posted by dockertor
Gunna get shot for this by the faithfull but I agree with you Asgardian and have been saying that for years. He didn't have a bad season last year though, disposal was a bit better

i actually thought that his 2002 season was one of his best.

 

[blockerhall]

You won't get shot, but Mcmanus had a year that I thought should have silenced most, IF NOT ALL, of his detractors.

Importantly I thought McManus was consistently one of our better away contributors last year. Going to be important in 2003 from that perspective.

On Farmer, we mainly played him away from goals, and it didn't really work out. Nowhere did I see that we had specifically recruited him for his goal scoring. News to me.

Unfair to highlight his goal return as such, particulary as he was the money man in a couple of games that went close to the wire. Still Very Happy to have him, and I reckon there is a fair chance he could light up Subi next year with the Jeff and Paul show. It is a hell of a lot tougher to man up on the Fremantle forward line now, if you hadn't noticed, with all the inherent benefits that come with that.

Grover can play, too.

Haddrill was injured for basically all of the year. I rate his hardness. Fingers crossed.

 

[S.J Rollin]

Originally posted by Asgardian

Ben Cunningham - Has skill & dash, but disappears, experience will fix that

Hopelessly one sided and will probably struggle to be a regular next year.

 

[blockerhall]

Possibly, Sossa. Didn't want to be negative on Richie , although I thought he saved his career in the Rd22 Adelaide game, 2001. Always had my doubts, and want to be proven wrong next year.

Has an unbelievable head of hair.

 

[S.J Rollin]

Originally posted by blockerhall
Possibly, Sossa. Didn't want to be negative on Richie , although I thought he saved his career in the Rd22 Adelaide game, 2001. Always had my doubts, and want to be proven wrong next year.

Has an unbelievable head of hair.

I missed the Adelaide game...was up in North Queensland at the time where even the coverage about the Lions is a bit light on.

Hairstyle may very well be his saving grace.

 

[Kenny_01]

Peter Bell - Our leader- heart and soul of our club. Gets plenty of the ball and is always there to help clean up. Sometimes could be more damaging.
Andrew Browne - Played 1 game in his first season and still developing. A future prospect.
Matthew Carr - Does his job, week in week out. Good around the ground, good tagger and is never shy to kick a goal.
Troy Cook - Tough, hard at it and great tacker. Skills let him down though.
Trent Croad - Did a good job in his first season kicking 42 goals from 20 odd games. Needs to control himself at times and learn to mark better better overhead. Should be trialled more at CHB.
Ryan Crowley - New kid, yet to see him play.
Ben Cunningham - IMHO, won't make it at AFL level. Kicks blindly and seems to struggle under pressure. Make or break year.
Brett Doswell - New kid, yet to see him play
Greg Edgcumbe - New kid, yet to see him play
Jeff Farmer - Played more of a midfield role last season to limited success... back near goals season, and with Connolly promoting flair in the forward line, expect better things from Farmer.
Antoni Grover - Good, solid defender, provides great run from half back and occasionally chips in with a goal. An under-rated player.
Robert Haddrill - Make or break year coming up. Showed a bit in 2001, and held back by injuries this year. Will need to step up next year to be retained on the list.
Daniel Haines - Has a lot of skill which is not that common amongst our midfielders and always gives it his all. Expect him to be a regular in our side with a year or so.
Paul Haselby - Quality player. Great in packs, great hands, and a very good mark for his size. One of the best young midfielders going around and is apparently in better shape than ever. Very handy when moved forward.
Roger Hayden - Make or break year for Hayden. Made a name for himself in the last derby... will have to continue to put in good performances to be retained on the list.
Des Headland - Good receiver, kicks a lot of goals and pretty hard at it. Should be a welcome addition to the side.
Anthony Jones - Injury prone. Can still do a job and creates a bit of run, but younger players might get the nod before him so we can develop for the future.
Steven Koops - Flashy, good player but is not all that consistant. Sometimes is a bit erratic and makes a couple of poor decisions every now and then. Expect him to be more consistant next season.
Justin Longmuir - I think 2003 will be the year Justin makes a name for himself. Shows a lot every now and then, but has been inconsistant over his career to date. A very good mark and normally pretty reliable in front of goal, should see him become a very dangerous player, especially without his knee giving him troubles.
Troy Longmuir - His main problem is he kicks without looking. He is hard at it and can take a mark. Still can make it at AFL level. Best suited up forward.
Shaun McManus - Coming off his best season and has a lot of heart, but his skills and decision making still let him down at times. Could find himself struggling for a spot if everyone is fully fit.
Luke McPharlin - No pre-season, no first half of season, no worries. Was great in the 2nd half of the season after his return from OP, and will be one of our best players barring injury for years to come. Very quick, good mark and decent kick.
Paul Medhurst - Livewire up forward. Took the forward pocket role off Farmer and played it very well. Sometimes was our most dangerous forward despite it being his first season. Expect him to continue kicking a lot of goals.
Shane Parker - Always does his job. Hardly ever beaten, Mr. Reliable. Enough said.
Matthew Pavlich - Our most valuable player. Great long penetrating kick, very solid defender, and pretty damaging when moved forward/ midfield. Marking overhead seems to be a weakness to me though.
Graham Polak - Very raw, only 17 last season and still a lot of development ahead. The kid definitely can play. Expect bright things from him in 2004.
Aaron Sandilands - A dinosaur. Still very much developing but could be one to watch in the future.
Byron Schammer - I am extremely excited about Schammer. Although I have never seen him player, from what I read, he will be a similar mould to Daniel Kerr. Draft camp showed he had great agility, endurance and pretty quick acceleration. One to watch.
Andrew Siegert - Needs to continue to improve in 2003. Showed glimpes in 2002 but will have to improve if he wants a regular game. Has the potential.
Troy Simmonds - Great find. Rucks well week in, week out and also provides a great option around the ground. Kicks the odd goal aswell which is good.
Scott Thornton - Hasn't shown much. Still young but I doubt he will see much game time next season. Will find it tough to make it at this level.
Luke Toia - Best is behind him, despite him being relatively young. Does well at WAFL level, but will struggle get AFL games. Last year of his career.
James Walker - Soft, and he kicks rainbows. Has pace but has to become stronger, more hard at it and improve disposal. Might/should struggle to get games if everyone is fit and healthy.
Clive Waterhouse - Could be in for a good year despite not having played much in 2 seasons. His best might be behind him but with key defenders taking other players, might free him up a little. Very tough coming back from a reconstruction though. Not sure if he fits in with future plans.
Dion Woods - Definitely has potential to be a good player but sometimes looks like he lacks interest and looks a bit lethargic. Also a bit soft. Needs to bulk up. Will he make it? I don't know.

 

[masai]

Originally posted by Asgardian

Andrew Browne - Hasn’t shown much, does he have the coach’s confidence?

Was playing very well for Claremont before he got injured, held in high regard by the club as he's only 18. Looks a bit like Dean Kemp.

Troy Cook - Negated easily, lousy skills, but is a tough nut

His toughnesss has been the shining light, hoefully other players will show a bit more toughness and thus he can concentrate on showing that he can kick well. (see game against the Saints, round 2).

Ben Cunningham - Has skill & dash, but disappears, experience will fix that

Borderline player.

Jeff Farmer - 29 goals is not a great return for a big contract player

Will play forward next year.

Antoni Grover - You guys like him, I don’t, time will tell

Stepped up this year, still learning the caper but Mr Parker is teaching him well.

Robert Haddrill - Hit a brick wall in 2002, will have to fight hard

Brickwall was an injury!!. Can play with good marking skills.

Paul Haselby - Quality player, but never seemed totally healthy

Not totally healthy, um that's the 2001 tape you are looking at. Was very ellusive drifting into the forward line this year unseen by his opponent. You don't have to be fast to get a good position.

Anthony Jones - Injury prone, others have moved ahead of him now

Love him, but the clock is ticking.

Steven Koops - Flashy, 2002 stats weren’t great, but did a good consistent job

Never too sure what he's going to do, but he did step up in 2002.

Justin Longmuir - Fine prospect, yet to light up, he needs freedom of position

Good player but must not stray more than 45 metres from goals. Good marking skills. He should take the step up in 2003.

Shaun McManus - Has heart, but lousy skills, lousy decision making - DUD

Had a very good season, don't know what he has to do to make people happy. Hasn't got a reverse gear, very gutsy player.

Graham Polak - Yet to show why all the fuss, I want to see more to make up my mind

Has shown he has the goods.
The shoulder injury is a blessing in disguise, it will allow his body to mature a bit, rather than stuff it up at such a young age.

Aaron Sandilands - Huge new kid, yet to see him play, who pays his food bills?

Good player at the Gummies, but does need another year at WAFL level to continue his education.


Dion Woods - Slow start to 2002, but came on strong, like the look of him

Could be anything, has fine kicking skills.

 

[S.J Rollin]

Some sound assesments of the stock there fellas...Nice One

Blocker... Just realised I had the right game but the wrong year. I was at the Adelaide game in 2001 (it was R22 2002... that I missed). That was a great game although I cant remember much about Richie... I remember Belly and Haze picking up oodles of posessions and also remember McCleod shining in a drab Adelaide line up. I for one... thought he was very unlucky not to pick up a Brownlow vote in that game.

 

[RogerMellie]

Originally posted by S.J Rollin
I remember Belly and Haze picking up oodles of posessions and also remember McCleod shining in a drab Adelaide line up. I for one... thought he was very unlucky not to pick up a Brownlow vote in that game.

Was it the non-votes from that game which cost McLeod the Brownlow? Either way, as deserving a winner McLeod would have been, I reckon the boys from down port way rightfully received the votes. Bell, Fletch and Heath Black if I recall correctly. Possibly the game of Bell's career and what a pleasure/relief it was for the Dockers to finally emerge from the grubby abyss that was season 2001 - you've gotta love the lads for their sense of the dramatic, leaving it to the last round like that - to record a win at home.

 

[The Mission Man]

"Des Headland - Fine addition will compliment the ball getters"

I'm sure he will thank them each time they give him the pill but I don't know if he will compliment them. Maybe a "Nice hands, Hase," or a "Stenching tackle, Cookie" but nothing too untoward, I'd imagine.

Reasonable overview.

Haddrill was injured and will be a good "pick-up" on his return.

Matty Carr hates being a run-with player but has the strength of character to follow orders and follow them well. His "so-so skills" led him, in Derby II 2002, to drag Ben Cousins around the park, giving the little bitch a quick football lesson. Carr will play more offensively next season and he will hurt a few teams. Fantastic courage in a marking contest, loves kicking goals more than Scott Cummings likes sweet and sour pork and is a competitor, maaaan. He hates losing. We need more like him. Also, post-surgery, he will be able to see.

Siegert gets a bit of tunnel-vision - as a result of concentrating too hard on his tagging role - but has more brains than is probably safe for a footballer to have and will isolate and work on this flaw in his game. Makes the most of himself and is courageous. Essential team stuff.

McManus has been explained/defended well enough by my good man Blocker.

 

[jod23]

Re: Re: 2003 squad review, by me

Originally posted by sabre_ac

All the fuss will be shown this season, tall talented Key Position player of hte likes that are becoming harder and harder to find. Sill could be teh best player to come out of the 2001 draft.

Doubtful though.

 

[Kenny_01]

Re: Re: Re: 2003 squad review, by me

Originally posted by jod23
Doubtful though.

You wouldn't be saying that if the Eagles picked him up at #3 last year.

 

[jod23]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 2003 squad review, by me

Originally posted by Kenny_01
You wouldn't be saying that if the Eagles picked him up at #3 last year.

Doubtful...

 

[footyman]

They had a draft where they focused heavily on midfield types with Schammer, Crowley and Edgcumbe. The latter couple being very athletic players who should be suited by the firm surfaces in WA.

Jeff Farmer is overpaid - perhaps life in WA isn't as good as he first expected? I hope he regrets ditching Melbourne!

They have some talented players, but how can there be so many mental problems in the one team? That travel thing is pathetic.

Good stuff so far asgardian.

 

[back pocket]

Originally posted by footyman
They had a draft where they focused heavily on midfield types with Schammer, Crowley and Edgcumbe. The latter couple being very athletic players who should be suited by the firm surfaces in WA.

Jeff Farmer is overpaid - perhaps life in WA isn't as good as he first expected? I hope he regrets ditching Melbourne!

They have some talented players, but how can there be so many mental problems in the one team? That travel thing is pathetic.

Good stuff so far asgardian.

Define overpaid, footyman, and while you're at it please tell me how much Farmer is being paid.

Also just out of interest, can you also let me know what the so many mental problems are? If your referring to not being able to win interstate games then the same can be said of almost every team in the afl. I can't think of any other "mental problems", so I'd really appreciate a bit more info from your knowledgeable self.

 

[footyman]

Originally posted by back pocket
Define overpaid, footyman, and while you're at it please tell me how much Farmer is being paid.

Also just out of interest, can you also let me know what the so many mental problems are? If your referring to not being able to win interstate games then the same can be said of almost every team in the afl. I can't think of any other "mental problems", so I'd really appreciate a bit more info from your knowledgeable self.

if you reckon im being a smartarse, you've done a good job of imitating one too.

overpaid...any dill would realise that he's not on chicken feed. he would be getting a good salary over there. i have no idea what Jeff Farmer is being paid, but Paul Medhurst proved to be just as good as a small forward and would've probably been on a base salary last year. We really only saw Jeff as a goalsneek in his time at Melbourne...Fremantle wanted him to play a different role didn't they? Did it work? And for what it's worth I was actually agreeing with asgardian who referred to Farmer's pay TWICE (which you didn't bother to pick up on). asgardian said he kicked 29 goals this year, however I'll add that he only kicked 33 in 2001 from 14 games at Melbourne. His 2000 where he kicked 70+ goals was perhaps just a year out of the blue.

Surely to be getting belted away by 10-15 goals, then going home and winning the next week suggests there is some problem there. I agree that most clubs have trouble travelling - however it seems like Fremantle magnify the problem. Maybe they should stop worrying about it - every second week your coach was on the news talking about the travel problems. Don't you agree that after a while it gets 'into their heads'?

 

[RacerX]

Well based one seasons performance I guess there is an argument that Farmer is overpaid. Doesn't really worry me though, he was as hot and cold as a half microwaved pie at Melbourne. Surely we have seen enough cold in 2002 to enjoy a scorching hot 2003?

And let me address the supposed mental problems of travelling, I like to use Brisbane as an analogy. Remember back when they were the joke of Melbourne for their inability to win there, now they too were really under the microscope for a while. This inability to win away, IMO, is a feature of a young inexperienced team. Hopefully in 2003 we can pass the mantle to another young team - preferably West Coast

By the way Mish, I think Asgardian was saying that Des would compliment the ball getters by being the receiver you describe. Well, thats the way I interpreted it.

 

[dockertor]

Originally posted by RacerX

By the way Mish, I think Asgardian was saying that Des would compliment the ball getters by being the receiver you describe. Well, thats the way I interpreted it.

Dear oh dear? Mish sometimes your just wasted!

Maybe these do help?