2009 List Development

[BrizzyBlue]

Righto Guys,

This is the way our list is shaping after the recent Re-Signings, Upgrades, Trade Snore-fest and De-listings. Keep in mind that there is the first list lodgement on Friday 31st.

Gone:
Cain Ackland, Jason Saddington, Luke Blackwell, Ryan Jackson, Aisake O’hAilpin, Clinton Benjamin, Michael Shields, David Ellard, Lachlan Hill & Sam Jacobs.

New:
Robbie Warnock.

Primary List:
Andrew Walker, Jordan Russell, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson, Adam Bentick, Matthew Kreuzer, Richard Hadley, Bradley Fisher, Steven Browne, Shaun Grigg, Setanta OhAilpin, Paul Bower, Eddie Betts, Mark Austin, Shaun Hampson, Adam Hartlett, Nick Stevens, Brendan Fevola, Joey Anderson, Dennis Armfield, Cameron Cloke, Heath Scotland, Jarrad Waite, Jordan Bannister, Bret Thornton, Ryan Houlihan, Simon Wiggins, Darren Pfeiffer, Jake Edwards, Michael Jamieson, Andrew Carrazzo & Robbie Warnock.

Rookie List:
Aaron Joseph

Primary Listed: 34
Rookies: 1
Total: 35.

With nobody on the Veterans List, it is likely that we would end up with a Primary List of 38 Players, 1 Nominated Rookie and 7 other Rookies (Total 46).

Ergo, we need 4 new Primary Listed Players and up to 7 new Rookies. The mixture of Nominated Rookies/International rookies will be interesting (Zac Touhey?)

We have ND Picks: 6, 40, 69 & 88 (probably will use all as pickings in PSD seem to be weak ATM).
We have PSD Pick: 6 (but can’t see us having it as will probably use in ND).
We have Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86 & 102 (probably take all 7).

Following that logic, to take full advantage of the forthcoming drafts, these are the various options that we have, starting with the current list of 35:

(A) Delist NO further Players (34, 1, 35). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69 & 88. Or pass on 88 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86 & 102.
Summary: 4 New Primary List Players, 7 New Rookies (Maybe 1 Nominated Rookie- Aaron Joseph) (38, 8, 46).

(B) Delist 1 further Player (33, 1, 34). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88 & 104. Or pass on 104 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86 & 102.
Summary: 5 New Primary List Players, 7 New Rookies (Maybe 1 Nominated Rookie- Aaron Joseph) (38, 8, 46).

(C) Delist 2 further Players (32, 1, 33). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88 & 104. Take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86 & 102.
Summary: 6 New Primary List Players, 7 New Rookies (Maybe 1 Nominated Rookie- Aaron Joseph) (38, 8, 46).

Now if there happens to be a quality out of contract player that we believe will fall to Pick 6 in the PSD, then we will hold back on our final selection in the National Draft and cross fingers that we can snare him. Either way we will end up with between 11-13 new players. I’m sure that currently contracted players and the couple that haven't been done yet will be feeling very nervous in the coming days. There is of course the wildcard that Sam Jacobs or any of the current Rookies may be upgraded which amends all the above figures. We will see.

I will upgrade this thread as de-listings occur providing the situation as it stands and further options. I trust the above info makes sense to you all.

 

[blues4flag]

Is there any official confirmation on the rookie delistings?

Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere except for a post on TC.

 

[BlueYoss]

With nobody on the Veterans List, it is likely that we would end up with a Primary List of 38 Players, 1 Nominated Rookie and 7 other Rookies (Total 46).

With nobody on the Veteran's List we could have 2 nominated rookies and 6 who would require elevation to play a senior game. Can't figure out why we didn't make the most of that opportunity in 2008 but I hope we do in 2009.

Ergo, we need 4 new Primary Listed Players and up to 7 new Rookies. The mixture of Nominated Rookies/International rookies will be interesting (Zac Touhey?)

AFAIK there is no 'mixture of Nominated Rookies/International rookies'. We can have up to 8 rookies, 2 of which can be 'nominated rookies' in the absence of anyone on our Veteran's List. International rookies will make up part of those 8 rookies, and I think the only difference between them and the other rookies is that they can stay on the rookie list for 3 years instead of 2.

Another point about the rookie list: if other clubs aren't using their late picks in the ND, I imagine that a lot of the players who we could pick up on our senior list in the ND would still be available for us to pick up on our rookie list in the Rookie Draft. Because we have so many more places on our rookie list, I imagine we will only be using late ND picks to secure players we suspect will be taken before our picks in the Rookie Draft.

Now if there happens to be a quality out of contract player that we believe will fall to Pick 6 in the PSD, then we will hold back on our final selection in the National Draft and cross fingers that we can snare him.

O'Keefe still hasn't signed with Sydney, has he?

There is of course the wildcard that Sam Jacobs or any of the current Rookies may be upgraded which amends all the above figures.

Sam would still qualify for the rookie draft, so, we may de-list him and tell him to nominate for the rookie draft and we could have him on the rookie list for another 2 years. Could even make him a nominated rookie with Joseph. Although I still harbour some hope that this is exactly what we do with Benjamin, I wasn't quite ready to give up on him yet.

Also, I'd like us to do one of those $1,500 sponsorships like we have with the kids in Ireland with that 16yo PNG'n boy who starred in the insternational grand final so we have first dibs on him as an international rookie when he's old enough.

 

[Jeremias]

Why wouldn't we just upgrade Joseph instead of using pick 88?

I would highly doubt that we're going to get a player better than him at that pick.

 

[KrabMan]

I haven't read any official delistings in regards to the rookies either apart from sheilds going back home to Ireland.....

Couldn't really see the club letting go Ellard particularly and Jacobs as well to a lesser extent....surely they will be retained as rookies if they are able to be...

 

[BrizzyBlue]

With nobody on the Veteran's List we could have 2 nominated rookies and 6 who would require elevation to play a senior game. Can't figure out why we didn't make the most of that opportunity in 2008 but I hope we do in 2009.



AFAIK there is no 'mixture of Nominated Rookies/International rookies'. We can have up to 8 rookies, 2 of which can be 'nominated rookies' in the absence of anyone on our Veteran's List. International rookies will make up part of those 8 rookies, and I think the only difference between them and the other rookies is that they can stay on the rookie list for 3 years instead of 2.

Another point about the rookie list: if other clubs aren't using their late picks in the ND, I imagine that a lot of the players who we could pick up on our senior list in the ND would still be available for us to pick up on our rookie list in the Rookie Draft. Because we have so many more places on our rookie list, I imagine we will only be using late ND picks to secure players we suspect will be taken before our picks in the Rookie Draft.



O'Keefe still hasn't signed with Sydney, has he?




Sam would still qualify for the rookie draft, so, we may de-list him and tell him to nominate for the rookie draft and we could have him on the rookie list for another 2 years. Could even make him a nominated rookie with Joseph. Although I still harbour some hope that this is exactly what we do with Benjamin, I wasn't quite ready to give up on him yet.

Also, I'd like us to do one of those $1,500 sponsorships like we have with the kids in Ireland with that 16yo PNG'n boy who starred in the insternational grand final so we have first dibs on him as an international rookie when he's old enough.

So good points BY. You are correct about the 2 Nominated Rookies. My point about the mixture of Rookies etc. was will we take Zac Touhey/others and I guess can we get Begley this way or would we have to get him in the ND or PSD? Is he still elegible to be rookied?

Fully aware of the ROK situation. It was me who started the ROK conspiracy thread. Most people think I'm nuts, but he still hasn't re-signed.

On Sauce, he can only be upgraded to the Primary List or not offered a contract. We have have to run the gauntlet of the drafts to get him back otherwise.

 

[BlueYoss]

My point about the mixture of Rookies etc. was will we take Zac Touhey/others and I guess can we get Begley this way or would we have to get him in the ND or PSD? Is he still elegible to be rookied?

My first question would be "Would we really want Begley?".

I think that if he's under 23 he can still qualify for the rookie draft even though he has already been on an AFL senior list. Curious if he could still qualify as an international rookie after having been on an AFL senior list tho...

On Sauce, he can only be upgraded to the Primary List or not offered a contract. We have have to run the gauntlet of the drafts to get him back otherwise.

Well aware of this risk, but like everything in life, there are rewards associated with risks. I think the rookie list is one of the most valuable tools in terms of list management, and trying to get ahead in such a regulated competition.

So where we can sifficiently mitigate a risk (find out who the teams with the first 5 picks in the rookie draft will be taking with those picks etc.) it becomes very worthwhile on account of the potential return.

 

[HBF]

(A) Delist NO further Players (34, 1, 35). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69 & 88. Or pass on 88 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86 & 102.
Summary: 4 New Primary List Players, 7 New Rookies (Maybe 1 Nominated Rookie- Aaron Joseph) (38, 8, 46).

This would seem the most likely outcome. Given our list at this stage, I just can't see who else we would delist, and what's more, would the player we draft be better than player X we delist after the 1st lodgement.

 

[Blue Dimension]

Why wouldn't we just upgrade Joseph instead of using pick 88?

I would highly doubt that we're going to get a player better than him at that pick.

Think about it a bit deeper.

Joseph could be a nominated rookie next season, so he doesn't need to be upgraded anyway.

With pick 88, you're getting a selection ahead of 5 other clubs than what you would get in the rookie draft - and don't forget Fremantle either who will be utilizing many late picks.

For example...we got Joseph with pick 2 in the rookie draft last year.

We could be drafting someone like him with our late pick in the ND, and the club with pick 1-2 in the rookie draft would miss out.

 

[PeeKay]

When did we delist Hill, Ellard and Jacobs. The club has stated they are still on the Rookie list.
Where did you get that information
I think it's wrong and on the basis it is wrong your whole scenario is up the sh1t.
Maybe they WILL be delisted but they are not right now.

 

[true blue19]

Sam would still qualify for the rookie draft, so, we may de-list him and tell him to nominate for the rookie draft and we could have him on the rookie list for another 2 years. Could even make him a nominated rookie with Joseph. Although I still harbour some hope that this is exactly what we do with Benjamin, I wasn't quite ready to give up on him yet.

i hope your right i would love to see Jacobs and Benjamin on our list in 09 there is to much potential there.

if there were any more delisting i think it would be down to 4 and i think they were our of contract and haven't resigned.
bentick(i dont think ratts like him but could be to good to just delist)
bannister(i think ratts does like him but there are question mark on whether he can play at this level)
pfeiffer(showed a little bit this year but only a little)
wiggins(when he's good he's good and when he's bad he's bad)
i dout that any of these player will be delisted there more then likely 09 delistings

 

[BlueYoss]

i hope your right i would love to see Jacobs and Benjamin on our list in 09 there is to much potential there.

if there were any more delisting i think it would be down to 4 and i think they were our of contract and haven't resigned.

bentick(i dont think ratts like him but could be to good to just delist)

What makes you say that?

I'm not the biggest Bentick fan but considering Ratts was an assistant coach when his 7 was given to Bentick to wear I find it hard to believe that Ratts doesn't like him.

bannister(i think ratts does like him but there are question mark on whether he can play at this level)

I thought Banno brought a lot to the team all along and will be in our best 22 for some time, his games before injury in 2008 would have convinced most others of this too.

pfeiffer(showed a little bit this year but only a little)

May well get to a level where he'd be a regular at a few AFL clubs, unfortunately for him, he's coming to Carlton at a time when there's so much talent coming to the list and developing, unless he can really impress in limited opportunity, I can't see him staying around for long.

wiggins(when he's good he's good and when he's bad he's bad)

His game against the Doggies alone would have earned him another 1 year contract, even if only as a depth player, and for every extra year on our list that he manages to earn himself, you can't help but be happy for him.

 

[blue gunslinger]

We certainly have not had any official confirmation abour Ellard but that does not surprise me
I will make some calls today and get back to you!

 

[HBF]

We certainly have not had any official confirmation abour Ellard but that does not surprise me
I will make some calls today and get back to you!

Ordering Fish N Chips doesn't count Guns.

 

[blue gunslinger]

HBF you know I am a connected fun loving criminal!

 

[BrizzyBlue]

Righto Guys,
After todays first list lodgement, there has been an additional de-listing:
Darren Pfeiffer.

So Gone Now:
Cain Ackland, Jason Saddington, Luke Blackwell, Ryan Jackson, Aisake O’hAilpin, Clinton Benjamin, Michael Shields and Darren Pfeiffer.
Still not 100% sure about the remaining Rookies: Aaron Joseph, David Ellard, Lachlan Hill & Sam Jacobs. Earlier reports indicated that only Joseph would survive, but in light of Dazza getting the chop; maybe Sauce might get an upgrade.

New:
Robbie Warnock.

Upgraded Rookie:
Michael Jamieson.

Primary List:
Andrew Walker, Jordan Russell, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson, Adam Bentick, Matthew Kreuzer, Richard Hadley, Bradley Fisher, Steven Browne, Shaun Grigg, Setanta OhAilpin, Paul Bower, Eddie Betts, Mark Austin, Shaun Hampson, Adam Hartlett, Nick Stevens, Brendan Fevola, Joey Anderson, Dennis Armfield, Cameron Cloke, Heath Scotland, Jarrad Waite, Jordan Bannister, Bret Thornton, Ryan Houlihan, Simon Wiggins, Jake Edwards, Michael Jamieson, Andrew Carrazzo & Robbie Warnock.

Rookie List:
??????????

Primary Listed: 33
Rookies: ?
Total: 33.

With nobody on the Veterans List, it is likely that we would end up with a Primary List of 38 Players, 1 Nominated Rookie and 7 other Rookies (Total 46).

Therefore, we now need 5 new Primary Listed Players and up to 8 new Rookies.

We have ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88 & 104 (probably will use all as pickings in PSD seem to be weak ATM).
We have PSD Pick: 6 (but can’t see us having it as will probably use in ND).
We have Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86, 102 & 118 (probably take 6 or 7).

Following that logic, to take full advantage of the forthcoming drafts, these are the various options that we have, starting with the current list of 33:

(A) Delist NO further Players (33). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88 & 104. Or pass on 104 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86, 102 & 118.
Summary: 5 New Primary List Players, Up to 8 New Rookies (Maybe 2 Nominated Rookies- Aaron Joseph and possibly Sam Jacobs) (38, 8, 46).

(B) Delist 1 further Player (32). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88, 104 & 120. Or pass on 120 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86, 102 & 118.
Summary: 6 New Primary List Players, Up to 8 New Rookies (Maybe 2 Nominated Rookies- Aaron Joseph and possibly Sam Jacobs) (38, 8, 46).

(C) Delist 2 further Players (31). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 69, 88, 104, 120 & 136. Or pass on 136 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70, 86, 102 & 118.
Summary: 7 New Primary List Players, Up to 8 New Rookies (Maybe 2 Nominated Rookies- Aaron Joseph and possibly Sam Jacobs) (38, 8, 46).

Now if there happens to be a quality out of contract player that we believe will fall to Pick 6 in the PSD, then we will hold back on our final selection in the National Draft and cross fingers that we can snare him. Either way we will end up with between 11-13 new players. I’m sure that currently contracted players and the couple that haven't been done yet will be feeling very nervous in the coming days. There is of course the wildcard that Sam Jacobs or any of the current Rookies may be upgraded which amends all the above figures. We will see.

I will keep upgrading this thread as changes occur providing the situation as it stands and further options. I trust the above info makes sense to you all.

 

[BrizzyBlue]

This jumper number list should give us an idea of the holes that need to be filled to have a full list.

1….Andrew Walker
2….Jordan Russell
3….Marc Murphy
4….Bryce Gibbs
5….Chris Judd
6….Kade Simpson
7… Adam Bentick
8… Matthew Kreuzer
9… ND Pick 6 (1)
10. Richard Hadley
11. Robbie Warnock
12. ND Pick 40 (2)
13. ND Pick 65 (3)
14. Bradley Fisher
15. Steven Browne
16. Shaun Grigg
17. Setanta O’hAilpin
18. Paul Bower
19. Eddie Betts
20. ND Pick 78 (4)
21. Mark Austin
22. Shaun Hampson
23. Adam Hartlett
24. Nick Stevens
25. Brendan Fevola
26. Joe Anderson
27. Dennis Armfield
28. Cameron Cloke
29. Heath Scotland
30. Jarrad Waite
31. Jordan Bannister
32. Bret Thornton
33. Ryan Houlihan
34. Simon Wiggins
35. ND Pick 90 (5) or PSD Pick 6 (1)
36. Rookie Pick 6 (1)
37. Jake Edwards
38. Rookie Pick 22 (2)
39. Rookie Pick 38 (3)
40. Michael Jamieson
41. Rookie Pick 54 (4)
42. Rookie Pick 70 (5)
43. Rookie Pick 86 (6)
44. Andrew Carrazzo
45. Rookie Pick 102 (7)
46. Rookie Pick 118 (8)

I have adjusted this due to other clubs lists.

 

[Billy Bob65]

C'mon. Surely this isn't that hard to figure out!

5 rookies were on the list. 1 got elevated and 0 were retained.

 

[true blue19]

What makes you say that?

I'm not the biggest Bentick fan but considering Ratts was an assistant coach when his 7 was given to Bentick to wear I find it hard to believe that Ratts doesn't like him.



I thought Banno brought a lot to the team all along and will be in our best 22 for some time, his games before injury in 2008 would have convinced most others of this too.



May well get to a level where he'd be a regular at a few AFL clubs, unfortunately for him, he's coming to Carlton at a time when there's so much talent coming to the list and developing, unless he can really impress in limited opportunity, I can't see him staying around for long.



His game against the Doggies alone would have earned him another 1 year contract, even if only as a depth player, and for every extra year on our list that he manages to earn himself, you can't help but be happy for him.

All i was saying was if there was any more delisting they were the only 4 becauce i hadn't heard if they were contracted for 09. i would have put hartlett and edwards on the list but i heard they resigned.

im a huge bentick fan but as soon as ratts became senior coach he was dropped and if it wasn't for injurys to hadley, walker, houlihan and bannister i dont think he would have played as many game this year and was put up for trade.

with bannister he looked like a different player at the start of the year and if he didn't get injured i would put him in our best 22 but with young guy like grigg, armfield and brown playing well there might not be a spot in 09.

pfeiffer looked alright but wasn't as good as other youngsters and was delistered so i wasn't that far off.

wiggin was great in his 100th (doggies game i think ) but disapeared for the rest of the year and said it himself that this could be his last year.

i didn't want any to be delisted they were the ones i saw as being in danger.

 

[true blue19]

we now have pick 6, 40, 65(69), 79(88), 83(104) or preseason pick6

looks a little better

 

[BrizzyBlue]

Righto Guys,
After yesterdays announcement that Ellard and Joseph have been extended for a second year, this is how it looks now.

Primary List:
Andrew Walker, Jordan Russell, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson, Adam Bentick, Matthew Kreuzer, Richard Hadley, Bradley Fisher, Steven Browne, Shaun Grigg, Setanta OhAilpin, Paul Bower, Eddie Betts, Mark Austin, Shaun Hampson, Adam Hartlett, Nick Stevens, Brendan Fevola, Joey Anderson, Dennis Armfield, Cameron Cloke, Heath Scotland, Jarrad Waite, Jordan Bannister, Bret Thornton, Ryan Houlihan, Simon Wiggins, Jake Edwards, Michael Jamieson, Andrew Carrazzo & Robbie Warnock.

Rookie List:
Aaron Joseph
David Ellard

Primary Listed: 33
Rookies: 2
Total: 35.

It is likely that we would end up with a Primary List of 38 Players, 1 Nominated Rookie and 7 other Rookies (Total 46).
Therefore, we now need 5 new Primary Listed Players and up to 6 new Rookies.

We have ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 78 & 90 (1 retained for PSD maybe). Later Picks after 40 are approximate due to other clubs lists.

We have PSD Pick: 6.

We have Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86 (probably take 5 or 6).

Following that logic, to take full advantage of the forthcoming drafts, these are the various options that we have, starting with the current list of 33:

(A) Delist NO further Players (33). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 78 & 90. Or pass on 90 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86.
Summary: 5 New Primary List Players, Up to 6 New Rookies (38, 8, 46).

(B) Delist 1 further Player (32). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 78, 90 & 98. Or pass on 98 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86.
Summary: 6 New Primary List Players, Up to 6 New Rookies (38, 8, 46).

(C) Delist 2 further Players (31). Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 78, 90, 98 & 106. Or pass on 106 and take PSD Pick: 6. Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86.

Summary: 7 New Primary List Players, Up to 6 New Rookies (38, 8, 46).

Now if there happens to be a quality out of contract player that we believe will fall to Pick 6 in the PSD, then we will hold back on our final selection in the National Draft and cross fingers that we can snare him. Either way we will end up with between 9-13 new players. I’m sure that currently contracted players and the couple that haven't been done yet will be feeling very nervous in the coming days.
I will keep upgrading this thread as changes occur providing the situation as it stands and further options. I trust the above info makes sense to you all.

 

[Kramer1]

Looking at all those numbers makes me a little woozy.

All I know is I like the way we are methodically cutting all those that weaken the gene pool and replacing with stronger stock.

Warnock for Ackland....tick
Ziebell for Saddington...tick
Johnson for Michelle...tick

Were not just plugging holes anymore with Martyn's and O'Reilly's, were looking to re-build the Empire.

 

[BrizzyBlue]

Righto Guys,
After yesterdays AFL announcement on final draft picks, this is how our potential list is shaping up.

Primary List:
Andrew Walker, Jordan Russell, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson, Adam Bentick, Matthew Kreuzer, Richard Hadley, Bradley Fisher, Steven Browne, Shaun Grigg, Setanta OhAilpin, Paul Bower, Eddie Betts, Mark Austin, Shaun Hampson, Adam Hartlett, Nick Stevens, Brendan Fevola, Joey Anderson, Dennis Armfield, Cameron Cloke, Heath Scotland, Jarrad Waite, Jordan Bannister, Bret Thornton, Ryan Houlihan, Simon Wiggins, Jake Edwards, Michael Jamieson, Andrew Carrazzo & Robbie Warnock.

Rookie List:
Aaron Joseph
David Ellard

Primary Listed: 33
Rookies: 2
Total: 35.

It is likely that we would end up with a Primary List of 38 Players, 1 Nominated Rookie and 7 other Rookies (Total 46).

Therefore, we now need 5 new Primary Listed Players and up to 6 new Rookies.

We have ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 80 & 85 (1 retained for PSD maybe).

We have PSD Pick: 6.

We have Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86 (probably take 5 or 6).

Following that logic, to take full advantage of the forthcoming drafts, these are the various options that we have, starting with the current list of 33 Primary Listed players:

Take ND Picks: 6, 40, 65, 80 & 85.

Or pass on 85 and take PSD Pick: 6.

Take Rookie Picks: 6, 22, 38, 54, 70 & 86.

Summary: 5 New Primary List Players, Up to 6 New Rookies (38, 8, 46).

Now if there happens to be a quality out of contract player that we believe will fall to Pick 6 in the PSD, then we will hold back on our final selection (85) in the National Draft and cross fingers that we can snare him. Either way we will end up with as many as 11 new players.

I will keep upgrading this thread as changes occur providing the situation as it stands and further options. I trust the above info makes sense to you all.

 

[HBF]

Are we able to select Chris Johnson in the ND, or do we have to wait until the PSD to select him, and hopefully he can get past Essendon. I always get a little confused on the rulings of delisted players. And, was Johnson actually delisted from Melbourne?

 

[BlueWorld]

Are we able to select Chris Johnson in the ND, or do we have to wait until the PSD to select him, and hopefully he can get past Essendon. I always get a little confused on the rulings of delisted players. And, was Johnson actually delisted from Melbourne?

Yes he was delisted so can nominate for either or both. More likely to get him in the PSD.