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2011 Wimbledon (Part 2)

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Never got into his loopy heavy top spin ground strokes and general risk minimisation clay court game plan, it has bored me senseles since I first I saw him play back in the Oz open of 2004. To this date I'm baffled by tennis 'fans' who actually enjoy what he dishes up, whatever floats people's boats I guess.

True he's a fine physical endurance brute who methodically grinds his opponent down as the game wears on, kudos for the work ethic and effort he's put to achieve that. However I watch tennis for elegant shot-making and highly resent the defensive brutal long-rally slugfest nadull has turned tennis into. That shit should strictly be confined to clay court. :thumbsdown:

I understand your point, whilst disagreeing.

I don't think he is defensive and I don't think that he tries to turn it into a slugfest for the sake of it, I think in every rally he's trying to find a way to administer the killer blow in a way that say Murray isn't.

The thing I'm finding with Wimbledon these days the way that the courts are playing is that they provide a challenge that really separates those with extra guile from the rest and really it is only Federer and Nadal who have a great understanding of it and to a lesser degree Murray.

These hard court specialist monkeys just like to swing hard and flat off both flanks and if they come against someone of a similar mind then they just go for it until one of them makes an error or a winner.

Watching Nadal yesterday, even though he has a double handed backhand, playing heaps of sliced backhands to Del Potro and to watch as the lack of pace, low bounce and the side spin was flummoxing Del Potro time and again just showed the different level of understanding of the courts.

And he's not scared to come into the net when it's on as his volleys are pretty damned good too.

If you want elegant shot making then obviously Federer is the standout but I'd say that Nadal's breadth of shot making is more enjoyable than say Djokovic just swinging away in the same way of both sides with little subtlety and a complete reluctance to come to the net.

I defy anyone to say that they can't admire Nadal's inside out forehand that he's been hitting numerous winners with.

Whatever floats your boat at the end of the day, it's entirely subjective but I think this Wimbledon is shaping up to be a classic.

The top 4 are looking the goods and if all of them make it to the semis then that could be an amazing day's tennis and whatever combination made the final would have a heap of interest for different reasons.

We'd all love Borg-McEnroe cirica 80/81 but unless they go back to wooden rackets it's not going to happen.
 
Honestly, can we seriously consider keeping some of this Federer-Nadal stuff in an actual thread? Dead set, some of these threads become dead set unreadable as we see the same arguments over and over.
 
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Completely agree with randyzany. There's also the fact that the courts around the world seem specifically designed for him to succeed for some unknown reason. The grass at Wimbledon gets slower and slower every year? Why? It's not ****ing acceptable.

As for him possibly having to pull out due to injury, what a laugh. I can't believe people continuously fall for it. The guy is that good that he can beat Del Potro in 3.5 hours with an injury so bad that he can't even compete in his next match? How blind are you lot?

Do you remember his thigh injury/illness at AO 2011? His knee injury at AO 2010? His stomach injury at USO 2009? His knee injury at RG 2009? His 'general fatigue' at USO 2008? His knee injury at Wimbledon 2007? His foot injury at USO 2007? The guy almost routinely says he is struggling with something during a slam so that an excuse is already prepared if he loses. You can add foot injury at Wimbledon 2011 to the list if he doesn't go all the way.

You have hit an all time low now TIRO..are you an indian cricket team fan by any chance? blame the umpire, no no, the pitch, no no the ball..if u cant find anyone blame the supporters, the weather, the light :rolleyes:

What "rule" is he breaking exactly with an injury time out? he plays a very physcial game so he can get a niggle here and there.Federer plays like he is practising all the time.

You are just scrapping the bottom of the barrel now, now you are telling us, the surface is designed for Nadal to win? ok Harbhajan
 

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Honestly, can we seriously consider keeping some of this Federer-Nadal stuff in an actual thread? Dead set, some of these threads become dead set unreadable as we see the same arguments over and over.

ban TIRO, he is the one complaining about ITF/ATP tailoring everything for Nadal and how rafa is a faker.But i dont blame him since he acknowledged the fact that Federer "cannot" beat Nadal...so good on him:thumbsu:
 
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Rafa is not happy with you, TIRO
 
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I understand your point, whilst disagreeing.

I don't think he is defensive and I don't think that he tries to turn it into a slugfest for the sake of it, I think in every rally he's trying to find a way to administer the killer blow in a way that say Murray isn't.

The thing I'm finding with Wimbledon these days the way that the courts are playing is that they provide a challenge that really separates those with extra guile from the rest and really it is only Federer and Nadal who have a great understanding of it and to a lesser degree Murray.

These hard court specialist monkeys just like to swing hard and flat off both flanks and if they come against someone of a similar mind then they just go for it until one of them makes an error or a winner.

Watching Nadal yesterday, even though he has a double handed backhand, playing heaps of sliced backhands to Del Potro and to watch as the lack of pace, low bounce and the side spin was flummoxing Del Potro time and again just showed the different level of understanding of the courts.

And he's not scared to come into the net when it's on as his volleys are pretty damned good too.

If you want elegant shot making then obviously Federer is the standout but I'd say that Nadal's breadth of shot making is more enjoyable than say Djokovic just swinging away in the same way of both sides with little subtlety and a complete reluctance to come to the net.

I defy anyone to say that they can't admire Nadal's inside out forehand that he's been hitting numerous winners with.

Whatever floats your boat at the end of the day, it's entirely subjective but I think this Wimbledon is shaping up to be a classic.

The top 4 are looking the goods and if all of them make it to the semis then that could be an amazing day's tennis and whatever combination made the final would have a heap of interest for different reasons.

We'd all love Borg-McEnroe cirica 80/81 but unless they go back to wooden rackets it's not going to happen.
thats very well said Drummond.Cant believe all this whinging about the modern day tennis...times have changed, so did tennis.I would rather watch the real cricket (test matches) than the commercialized product that cricket has become.But things have changed, if you dislike brute power or grinding, you will dislike Djokovic, Murray, Delpo etc etc.. there is no one to like bar federer. What would Delpo be without power? he doesnt have the finesse Roger has, does he? yet its always Rafa who plays the ugly tennis :rolleyes: seriously if you like the tennis of 80s so much, then dont watch tennis..no one is forcing you, but blaming rafa alone cause he is a grinder is not right. I guess haters will always be haters
 

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Bartoli shits me up the wall. Disgusting looking, horrible grunt, double handed forehand etc. Come Sabine! I might claim her as my own now :heart:
 
If I was serving to Bartoli I would just take plenty of time between each point and let her wear herself out with all her stupid bouncing around various other movements.
 
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