List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[Bulldogsnm1]

Yeah I've already committed to Finlayson with a 3rd as it wasn't matched. Didn't match NM 2nd for Cordy either.

Josh Glenn is someone I'm really keen to bring in but after Fuller it's a bit raw. He's a significantly more versatile and complete player though.

I like Finlayson for a third rounder, and you did the right thing not matching Cordy as second rounder. Now go out and get us Durdin or Goddard, and an outside runner with legimate speed and skill, good if they have a bit of height as well.

 

[Skippos]

I'm so tempted to get lever at 5

See Durdin nearly every week and I've got serious doubts

Lever is just all class and a real leader.

 

[Skippos]

I'm so tempted to get lever at 5

See Durdin nearly every week and I've got serious doubts

Lever is just all class and a real leader.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I'm so tempted to get lever at 5

See Durdin nearly every week and I've got serious doubts

Lever is just all class and a real leader.

Either would be good picks in my mind. I favour Durdin as the more well-rounded of the two but that's obviously without having seen Lever for a year. Wouldn't be disappointed with either of them.

 

[Igloo]

I'm so tempted to get lever at 5

See Durdin nearly every week and I've got serious doubts

Lever is just all class and a real leader.

Plenty of people on here like Lever too, so do what your heart tells you

 

[Dav1d]

I'm so tempted to get lever at 5

See Durdin nearly every week and I've got serious doubts

Lever is just all class and a real leader.

I like it
I like it a lot

 

[Wizard17]

If he hadn't been injured he'd be a top 3 pick. Good pick another Stringer. Also is 194cm now

I like it
I like it a lot

 

[Wizard17]

Durdin sliding big time

 

[Skippos]

Followed my heart.

As a Crows fan I broke it at the same time.

#firstworldproblems

Lever just suits more. Durdin's far from a finished product and still has some real development to go from a footy IQ point of view. Lever compliments roughy more than Durdin and covers completely different opponents (Durdin makes you a little one dimensional). Also offensively provides a real rebound and intercept option that Durdin doesn't yet. Perhaps not the true upside but far higher chance of making the grade.

The best leader in the draft too. #gun

 

[Skippos]

Durdin sliding big time

He slid to 14 in our 'trial' first round last night. It;'s between he and Goddard for me at 9 though.

 

[paulveed]

Hey fellas. A little bit of shameless self promotion here (so for that I do apologise) but I genuinely do care about the responses too!

I've been doing a bit of writing for boundforglorynews of late and tonight (starting from 7PM with F/S and academy selections and 8PM with the proper draft) we're doing a live phantom draft on Twitter (#BFGNDraft) and on BFGN (updated every 10 picks - at this link).

There are 6 of us drafting and we've all taken a top, middle and bottom 6 team and I chose you guys (I won't lie, I have the softest of soft spots for the Dogs. Such a fantastic club #brownnose!). I was just wondering what you guys wanted so I can factor that in.

At the moment I've got 4 real needs - outside run and class, a KPD to partner Roughead, a franchise KPF and someone to hopefully play Gilbee's role. I'll also be trying to target 'Dalrymple types' as best I can.

Any feedback or interest would be much appreciated

I think you have our needs pretty right. I know Howard, and possibly Fuller have put a few on here off SA players as options for us. Also, since BMac arrived we do seem to have had a tendency to draft predominantly Victorians. But gee, if you go through our list over recent years I think we probably have more SA's than most clubs. I have no dramas with our picking players from SA, as there seems to be far less "go home" factor with them, than say lads from WA.

Key back, key forward, outside mid, and offensive running back, all with good kicking skills, and a touch of grunt sounds like an ideal draft to me.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Menadue at 15 is a bit of a bizarre one, quite a bit too early in my opinion.

 

[Skippos]

Menadue at 15 is a bit of a bizarre one, quite a bit too early in my opinion.

Yeah I'm not sure where he was going with that. Those 6'3 rakes are prone to becoming pretty god damn good and post Fyfe have boomed in value but there's also significant bootsma risk.

A lot of these drafters aren't bigfooty frequenters so they're well separated from the groupthink that develops here.

 

[Dav1d]

Yeah I'm not sure where he was going with that. Those 6'3 rakes are prone to becoming pretty god damn good and post Fyfe have boomed in value but there's also significant bootsma risk.

A lot of these drafters aren't bigfooty frequenters so they're well separated from the groupthink that develops here.

think its a good thing, has Langford gone yet? another tall rake of a player

 

[Wizard17]

I'm very surprised that in the bigfopty phantom that Hislop fell through he was one that I wouldn't be upset about from the 3rd round onwards. Even though he plays inside most of the time he can play a lot of other positions and is a leader. Got a feeling that he'd be the type our guys would like.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Yeah I'm not sure where he was going with that. Those 6'3 rakes are prone to becoming pretty god damn good and post Fyfe have boomed in value but there's also significant bootsma risk.

A lot of these drafters aren't bigfooty frequenters so they're well separated from the groupthink that develops here.

Don't get me wrong, huge fan of Menadue and think he becomes a good player but I don't see him as a mid-teens sort of pick; he's just got too many weaknesses. Think somebody will pull the trigger in the second round but anything before about 20-25 I just don't see him being worth it.

That said though does seem a bit like a Wells pick; somebody with undoubted talent and flashes of brilliance but doesn't really stand out as a first rounder.

Always good to get perspectives from outside BF though, a lot on here seem to be on the same wavelength, strangely enough.

Like the Lever pick and your reasoning for him over Durdin though. Lack of exposed form, overrated forward ability and skinniness aside, what're the concerns you have with Durdin?

 

[Dav1d]

Don't get me wrong, huge fan of Menadue and think he becomes a good player but I don't see him as a mid-teens sort of pick; he's just got too many weaknesses. Think somebody will pull the trigger in the second round but anything before about 20-25 I just don't see him being worth it.

Geelong would do it, can't argue with Wells record

would have said the same thing about Lang last draft, but Geelong saw fit to pick him with their first

 

[Skippos]

And now I've picked Keitel with a second. Pretty silly given I bid on Finlayson with a third but with KPPs you've got to cover yourselves and there's no chance all three become best 22 standard. Keitel as a forward probably isn't a number 1 but he was the best on the board by a mile. Didn't like the outside mid options in a draft of inside mids and the small backs with good skills you can find later.

 

[doggies ftw]

Where'd McKenzie go?

 

[Dav1d]

And now I've picked Keitel with a second. Pretty silly given I bid on Finlayson with a third but with KPPs you've got to cover yourselves and there's no chance all three become best 22 standard. Keitel as a forward probably isn't a number 1 but he was the best on the board by a mile. Didn't like the outside mid options in a draft of inside mids and the small backs with good skills you can find later.

3 KPPs?

I'll......be......right....back

Dal needs to make this happen

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Where'd McKenzie go?

Carlton, straight after our pick. Interested to see which goes first in the real thing. Reckon it'll be McKenzie by draft time.

 

[Bulldogsnm1]

Don't get me wrong, huge fan of Menadue and think he becomes a good player but I don't see him as a mid-teens sort of pick; he's just got too many weaknesses. Think somebody will pull the trigger in the second round but anything before about 20-25 I just don't see him being worth it.

That said though does seem a bit like a Wells pick; somebody with undoubted talent and flashes of brilliance but doesn't really stand out as a first rounder.

Always good to get perspectives from outside BF though, a lot on here seem to be on the same wavelength, strangely enough.

Like the Lever pick and your reasoning for him over Durdin though. Lack of exposed form, overrated forward ability and skinniness aside, what're the concerns you have with Durdin?

Perhaps based on some BF opinions, however he is a non private school boy at a non descript school, playing TAC football for a historically low draft club in the Jets. Spoke to a couple of recruiters early in the year about the Jets in general, he had been best player in the 3 practice games against other TAC sides and followed up BOG in the first 2 TAC cup games and he was rated first ahead of Duggan and Ellis by both recruiters.
Form has been consistent since then without being quite as outstanding.

 

[Skippos]

Carlton, straight after our pick. Interested to see which goes first in the real thing. Reckon it'll be McKenzie by draft time.

Have it on good authority that he's rated far higher on here than by those in the know. I was tempted to pick him but at 100kg already his performances at junior level aren't through skill but just being that much bigger than the opposition and are unlikely to translate. A bit Ryan Willits-esque who was the same kind of huge power forward at junior level with prolific hauls but ended up looking a spud at AFL level

 

[Wizard17]

Our recruiters seem to like guys who can win their own ball on the inside and outside and play multiple positions. I don't think their are many that fit into that in the 2nd round. Caleb Hislop is one our recruiting staff might, ticks a lot of boxs for what we are trying to build. Has a little to work on disposal wise but not as much as some.

And now I've picked Keitel with a second. Pretty silly given I bid on Finlayson with a third but with KPPs you've got to cover yourselves and there's no chance all three become best 22 standard. Keitel as a forward probably isn't a number 1 but he was the best on the board by a mile. Didn't like the outside mid options in a draft of inside mids and the small backs with good skills you can find later.

 

[Skippos]

Don't get me wrong, huge fan of Menadue and think he becomes a good player but I don't see him as a mid-teens sort of pick; he's just got too many weaknesses. Think somebody will pull the trigger in the second round but anything before about 20-25 I just don't see him being worth it.

That said though does seem a bit like a Wells pick; somebody with undoubted talent and flashes of brilliance but doesn't really stand out as a first rounder.

Always good to get perspectives from outside BF though, a lot on here seem to be on the same wavelength, strangely enough.

Like the Lever pick and your reasoning for him over Durdin though. Lack of exposed form, overrated forward ability and skinniness aside, what're the concerns you have with Durdin?

I'll reply to this later btw. Too extensive a rant to do now as I'm a little busy