List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

[Roadto2018]

Rice will nominate us 100%

 

[holllywood]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

Of course it's far from a done thing....trade period hasn't started yet.

And you would be naive to think that we are not exploring every option we have to get Carlisle to our club, by bundling up players/picks for Carlisle or for a pick around his worth to be on traded to you guys. Put it this way, trading pick 5 for Carlisle is our last resort as we want to keep pick 5, so why would trade it if we can find other ways to satisfy you?

Plenty of things to play out. Don't be so fixated on pick 5, as I think the deals will be fair but won't involve pick 5.

 

[Roadto2018]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

No one on here actually thinks pick 24 will be the deal, no one. But pick 5 is simply overs, we do not have to give it up and would rather miss out on Carlisle than give it up directly, even then there's a good chance we wouldn't miss out and we get him for nothing in the PSD. Dodoro will crack, there's no way he'll let him go for zilch, our offer whatever it may be (I think two 2nd rounders or 1 second rounder and Ross) will almost certainly be the best available, and while it favours us yes (that's what happens when the bloke is out of contract) it isn't completely unfair. So please stop putting words in our mouths, go back to your own board and decide who to get with pick 5 and live under your rocks, and then surface a week later to see you holding pick 24.

 

[Joffaboy]

Well then you have to give up something to get him, and I've not heard one person say that a second round would or should be enough - except in here.
You guys are funny. Every single media commentator has said it has to involve pick 5 and yet in here you s****** away as if we're delusional for thinking the same.
You can't think you'll pick up 2 high quality players, both of which you really want and need, and think you'll give up nothing to get them.

so lol worthy it is hardly worth commenting on.

We dont have to give up anything you, your delusion arrogant supporters, or dimwitted, so to be sacked list manager Dildodo says.
You want nothing for Carlisle? Fine dont take what will be a fair deal.
No skin off our nose. He goes to PSD.

THree things happen, one definite.


1) Essendope get a big fat donut, which is more than deserved

2) Carlton can take him @ No.1 in PSD. Carlisle wont mind he likes Carlton

3) Saints front end a deal. We can afford a 1.5 mill one year contract as a bid.


So there you have it. Your lot wont get #5, you wont have Carlisle, and it is just a matter of time before he is at the Saints or maybe Carlton.

Bains has stated #5 wont be direct traded for Carlisle, Bains is always true to his word.

Youu really think Dildoro will let Carlisle walk for nothing when your club is in such disarray when you are crying out for dps and players?

Hilarious. I hope he does for the lols.

 

[St Pauls]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

I think Rors hit the nail on the head- pick 5 is overs and pick 24 is unders. I think at this stage a straight swap for 5 is extremely unlikely. It will most probably be a combo of 2nd and a player or two seconds, or 5 with some picks or players coming back to us.

I just hope the club don't get sucked into the trade to deep and are happy to walk away if the price isn't right.

I think the main reason we have targeted Carlisle is he fits a need but also that we should be able to get him under value.

I think the PSD threat is very very unlikely to happen but if it came down to this, I personally wouldn't mind the club rolling the dice. But again, I think this is very unlikely to happen.

Anyway all us novice punters have no idea what's happening behind close doors, do I amuse we will find out in the next two weeks!

 

[Verdun]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

Yes there are extremes in the argument, downgrade picks is a real possibility - will be interesting. If another club needs to get involved it may happen what posters here are saying is that a direct swap of 5 for a player who has nominated St Kilda is over the top and something the Saints may have done in the past as they did not believe they could deal 'with the big boys' but that has changed

Curious as to what you mean they'll give up? One thing you have forgotten is that both players HAVE nominated St Kilda as where they want to play when this happens players usually get what they want and the club nominated gets what they want!

Seems a lot of Essendon supporters do not understand this bit, I understand Essendon have being doing it tough that is not the Saints fault. = To be honest some of the comments coming from your supporters are way over the top.

 

[Roadto2018]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

No one on here actually thinks pick 24 will be the deal, no one. But pick 5 is simply overs, we do not have to give it up and would rather miss out on Carlisle than give it up directly, even then there's a good chance we wouldn't miss out and we get him for nothing in the PSD. Dodoro will crack, there's no way he'll let him go for zilch, our offer whatever it may be (I think two 2nd rounders or 1 second rounder and Ross) will almost certainly be the best available, and while it favours us yes (that's what happens when the bloke is out of contract) it isn't completely unfair. So please stop putting words in our mouths, go back to your own board and decide who to get with pick 5 and live under your rocks, and then surface a week later to see you holding pick 24.

 

[St Pauls]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

I think Rors hit the nail on the head- pick 5 is overs and pick 24 is unders. I think at this stage a straight swap for 5 is extremely unlikely. It will most probably be a combo of 2nd and a player or two seconds, or 5 with some picks or players coming back to us.

I just hope the club don't get sucked into the trade to deep and are happy to walk away if the price isn't right.

I think the main reason we have targeted Carlisle is he fits a need but also that we should be able to get him under value.

I think the PSD threat is very very unlikely to happen but if it came down to this, I personally wouldn't mind the club rolling the dice. But again, I think this is very unlikely to happen.

Anyway all us novice punters have no idea what's happening behind close doors, do I amuse we will find out in the next two weeks!

 

[Verdun]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

Yes there are extremes in the argument, downgrade picks is a real possibility - will be interesting. If another club needs to get involved it may happen what posters here are saying is that a direct swap of 5 for a player who has nominated St Kilda is over the top and something the Saints may have done in the past as they did not believe they could deal 'with the big boys' but that has changed

Curious as to what you mean they'll give up? One thing you have forgotten is that both players HAVE nominated St Kilda as where they want to play when this happens players usually get what they want and the club nominated gets what they want!

Seems a lot of Essendon supporters do not understand this bit, I understand Essendon have being doing it tough that is not the Saints fault. = To be honest some of the comments coming from your supporters are way over the top.

 

[NeXus Nick]

It would be nice to keep pick 5. However if pick 5 became Carlisle and Freeman I would be happy with that. Having said that though, below is my preference.....

1. Pick 5.....downgrade to a mid teens pick and mid 20's pick. Take these 2 picks to the draft and grab Kieran Collins with the mid teens pick (perfect replacement for Fisher) and then best available with the mid 20's pick.

2. Our own pick 24 to Collingwood for Freeman.

3. Straight swap...Hickey for Carlisle.

 

[St Pauls]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

I think Rors hit the nail on the head- pick 5 is overs and pick 24 is unders. I think at this stage a straight swap for 5 is extremely unlikely. It will most probably be a combo of 2nd and a player or two seconds, or 5 with some picks or players coming back to us.

I just hope the club don't get sucked into the trade to deep and are happy to walk away if the price isn't right.

I think the main reason we have targeted Carlisle is he fits a need but also that we should be able to get him under value.

I think the PSD threat is very very unlikely to happen but if it came down to this, I personally wouldn't mind the club rolling the dice. But again, I think this is very unlikely to happen.

Anyway all us novice punters have no idea what's happening behind close doors, do I amuse we will find out in the next two weeks!

 

[cowboysteel66]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

You can't ask for pick 5 if we don't have it is my theory. Down trade with Adelaide or Gold Coast and give you a pick at 10-14 where we value him and keep the other pick for ourselves. Adelaide would get access to a top 5 pick for Dangerfield, you get a first rounder for Carlisle and we keep one.

 

[dewah07]

Are the rules u still have to use 3 picks in the draft?
So pick 5, sinclair upgrade and rice/late pick?

If we don't get picks back and rice is nodded early we may have to dip into our 2016 1st

 

[cowboysteel66]

No. Most people say 'we need to keep pick 5 regardless'. I'm curious what THEY think they'll give up.
I've read the downgrade picks but that requires another club and is far from a done thing.

You can't ask for pick 5 if we don't have it is my theory. Down trade with Adelaide or Gold Coast and give you a pick at 10-14 where we value him and keep the other pick for ourselves. Adelaide would get access to a top 5 pick for Dangerfield, you get a first rounder for Carlisle and we keep one.

 

[TheJackal]

Rice will nominate us 100%

Which completes the trifecta! Getting one over Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon this year, Trout, Ameet and co sure no how to significantly please Saints supporters don't they?!

 

[Roadto2018]

Are the rules u still have to use 3 picks in the draft?
So pick 5, sinclair upgrade and rice/late pick?

If we don't get picks back and rice is nodded early we may have to dip into our 2016 1st

Nah only affects the pick in the round that the player was nominated thankfully

 

[crasha301]

Rice will nominate us 100%

Explain?

 

[NeXus Nick]

Heart scare for hopeful Wayne Milera
Date: October 10, 2015 - 8:07PM
Emma Quayle

Milera, who had his ECG done while part of the South Australian under-18 program, as a standard part of the squad's medical screening, was told he was born and had been living with a condition called Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome, which had created a second electrical pathway through his heart.

 

[gringo2011]

Nick Naitanui's running jump record got equalled by the young sudanese kid (can't think of his name sorry) Daniel Rioli won the repeat sprints

Was that Goch Nuon or how ever you say it or the other guy?

 

[Kingofthehill]

You can't ask for pick 5 if we don't have it is my theory. Down trade with Adelaide or Gold Coast and give you a pick at 10-14 where we value him and keep the other pick for ourselves. Adelaide would get access to a top 5 pick for Dangerfield, you get a first rounder for Carlisle and we keep one.

Thats why the Ryder comparison is stupid. Port only had pick 17 - you can't give what you don't have.

Thanks, most have been constructive. Except Joffa - Dude you need to chill out a little

 

[karaoke]

Something my father always said;

"what you want, and what you get, are often 2 different things"

 

[Roadto2018]

Explain?

Just heard he has chosen us from one of his team mates

 

[Kingofthehill]

Something my father always said;

"what you want, and what you get, are often 2 different things"

Sound advice for us all

 

[gringo2011]

I counted 3, and they've all got talent. Gach Nyuon, Mabior Chol and Thomas Jok. (Next year Goy Lok will be available too.)

Patrick Taban is from Uganda and Rueben William is from Kenya I believe. Got skills too.

Goch looks the pick of them he would be a handy ruck option that will need time but his athleticism is outstanding. Would probably only take a fourth round pick but the potential is huge. I think Chol is the one from Queensland- he might be an academy kid. Prob stay there.

 

[Verdun]

Thats why the Ryder comparison is stupid. Port only had pick 17 - you can't give what you don't have.

Thanks, most have been constructive. Except Joffa - Dude you need to chill out a little

Fair call - Cowboysteel66 post is where most is good, but as others keep saying there is a strong belief 5 is overs