2016 Priority Pick Hypotheticals

[Bucking Beads]

I'd say keep pick 1 & 3 if that's what we get. Should get 2 elite midfielders with those picks.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Just saw this:


The club desperately needs to be able to sell hope now I think. How much worse can the AFL wait for us to get?

 

[Flea_29]

Just saw this:


The club desperately needs to be able to sell hope now I think. How much worse can the AFL wait for us to get?

Wouldn't this encourage us to tank?
If we get a shit draw (again), get injuries (again) and are 2 and 12 after 14 rds - wouldn't we then decide to tank????

 

[GumbyRules1]

I put the PP poll on main page and must say am surprised 65% plus saying we should be a PP. I was not expecting that... We must be on the nose to the league in general.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Wouldn't this encourage us to tank?
If we get a shit draw (again), get injuries (again) and are 2 and 12 after 14 rds - wouldn't we then decide to tank????

Yep. Roll out the tanks if that's what they propose.

 

[AFLQLD]

I think the Clarke retirement might help our case almost enough to tip the scales in favour of us getting a PP. Almost. Maybe.

I think that it allows for an AFL argument to be put to the other clubs as the icing on the cake - all our other problems and losing our leading young defender at such a young age due to a relatively rare and unpredictable event.

However, there are more powerful forces than us yet to weigh in if it looks like we are a chance. I can't imagine any of the 'big four' letting us get a PP and knock their first rounder down a peg when they are all low on the ladder. (In Collingwood's case out of spite since they gave theirs to GWS).

Oddly, I think there is an impatience at AFL HQ to solve the 'Brisbane problem' once and for all this year. They actually want us to not be us anymore because we are bringing bad vibes upon the league. So they will give enough to be able to say "we have done all we can and it is up to Brisbane now".

What I think might happen is we could get a watered down PP at the end of first round, just to get it out of the way. Better than holding off another year and really having no choice but to give us a PP before pick one because we still only win a few games.

 

[josephs_79]

Just saw this:

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The club desperately needs to be able to sell hope now I think. How much worse can the AFL wait for us to get?

And the tweet says?

EDIT: BTW I have edited it to show what some of us actually see when you post these tweets. It says loading because our proxies at work have social media blocked.

 

[M Malice]

And the tweet says?

EDIT: BTW I have edited it to show what some of us actually see when you post these tweets. It says loading because our proxies at work have social media blocked.

"the AFL should put in new coach & structure to help develop the lions list. promise them a priority pick in 12 months if still no improvement."

 

[TheHairyGamer]

I'd say keep pick 1 & 3 if that's what we get. Should get 2 elite midfielders with those picks.

I agree, any top 10 picks we get we should not be trying to move on, get the young talent in

 

[TheHairyGamer]

I think the Clarke retirement might help our case almost enough to tip the scales in favour of us getting a PP. Almost. Maybe.

I think that it allows for an AFL argument to be put to the other clubs as the icing on the cake - all our other problems and losing our leading young defender at such a young age due to a relatively rare and unpredictable event.

However, there are more powerful forces than us yet to weigh in if it looks like we are a chance. I can't imagine any of the 'big four' letting us get a PP and knock their first rounder down a peg when they are all low on the ladder. (In Collingwood's case out of spite since they gave theirs to GWS).

Oddly, I think there is an impatience at AFL HQ to solve the 'Brisbane problem' once and for all this year. They actually want us to not be us anymore because we are bringing bad vibes upon the league. So they will give enough to be able to say "we have done all we can and it is up to Brisbane now".

What I think might happen is we could get a watered down PP at the end of first round, just to get it out of the way. Better than holding off another year and really having no choice but to give us a PP before pick one because we still only win a few games.

I agree with that. Maybe if we also had an experienced player say he wants out of the club (in the 25 y/o range) that would also strengthen the case too

 

[BRAB]

And the tweet says?

EDIT: BTW I have edited it to show what some of us actually see when you post these tweets. It says loading because our proxies at work have social media blocked.

Fighting a losing battle mate

 

[josephs_79]

Fighting a losing battle mate

That's all right, I Know but I am just going to quote everyone who doesn't right what it is and absolutely annoy them until they do. Meh if I got time to read on here got time to quote it

And I reckon if everyone quotes it they will all realize some of us at work don't have the luxury of seeing it.

 

[josephs_79]

"the AFL should put in new coach & structure to help develop the lions list. promise them a priority pick in 12 months if still no improvement."

Thanks Jason!

 

[spotthedog1]

I agree, any top 10 picks we get we should not be trying to move on, get the young talent in

True, but if Gold Coast offer a trade of pick 1 for picks 5 & 9... maybe we give back a 2nd rounder... I'd be mighty tempted by that. Most drafts have 1 or 2 ultra high talent, then just normal top 10 talent... This draft supposedly doesn't have that ultra high talent, just lots of that top 10 talent... If we could get 3 of them instead of 2, even if it meant we had less of a say of which players those are... In this draft, I would prefer picks 3, 5 (probably 6) and 9 (10) to picks 1, 3, and 25.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I put the PP poll on main page and must say am surprised 65% plus saying we should be a PP. I was not expecting that... We must be on the nose to the league in general.

I'd say 90 percent of them are just trying to troll Essendon fans.

 

[dlanod]

Since a prospective trade with Gold Coast for their two first rounders keeps coming up over and over again, posters might want to read this before suggesting it again:

Gold Coast, which has two first-round picks — currently Picks 4 and 8 — has ruled out a deal with Essendon for the prospective first choice.

A source at the Suns said there was “not a chance in hell” they would trade two first-round picks — the expected asking price — for Pick 1.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...1/news-story/d22dc6d105145e734a2e50196cc6a307

 

[13Beast]

Since a prospective trade with Gold Coast for their two first rounders keeps coming up over and over again, posters might want to read this before suggesting it again:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...1/news-story/d22dc6d105145e734a2e50196cc6a307

Alternatively, pick 7 (prestia), and 9 for our pick 1 with perhaps an exchange of later picks to sweeten the deal (in our favour).

Gc gets to keep pick 5 and gets pick 1.

 

[Voss the boss]

If I was GC I would be doing what gws has done -keep them all and use them and then in a few years time when a few want to head back to Melbourne trade in future first rounder picks for them. Always gives them something to negotiate with.

 

[Viceregal]

On another thread (main board version iirc) they mentioned that you can't trade a PP - is that correct?

 

[AB09]

I'm not sure if the rule has changed but Freo traded their PP (Pick 1) in 2001 for Croad and McPharlin (plus other picks). This was the famous Superdraft and Freo (pick 1), St Kilda (pick 2) and West Coast (pick 3) all received PP at the start of the draft.

 

[JasRulz63]

You definitely can trade a priority pick. We traded the last one we got (after the first round in 2011) for Lisle.

 

[JD Tomahawk]

Whoever the lions pick with the PP and any position probably should ask them if they are fine with moving interstate and do some in depth research on the kid and family to see if he can handle loving away. Not saying the recruiters don't already do that. But given the history you'd wonder if they could have dug deeper

 

[Hollow Knight]

We do all that. Ultimately you can never tell 100 percent.

If we avoided every player with homesick tendencies, Simon Black, Luke Power and Chris Johnson would never have played for Brisbane.

 

[luthor]

We do all that. Ultimately you can never tell 100 percent.

If we avoided every player with homesick tendencies, Simon Black, Luke Power and Chris Johnson would never have played for Brisbane.

And apart from that we can't get overly gun shy with these "flight risks" because to do so puts us at yet another competitive disadvantage......by diluting the available pool from which we are choosing.

 

[Albi_Mangler]

Whoever the lions pick with the PP and any position probably should ask them if they are fine with moving interstate and do some in depth research on the kid and family to see if he can handle loving away. Not saying the recruiters don't already do that. But given the history you'd wonder if they could have dug deeper

1. We don't have a priority pick yet
2. How is a priority pick any different to any other draft pick?
3. You seriously think we don't do background on prospects to determine if they are susceptible to being a flight risk?
4. Dig deeper... what? Do you want us to hack potential draft picks?

All of this is beside the point and fails to address the actual problem facing ALL the northern clubs. This is an AFL problem where these rules (like many others) favour Victorian based clubs.

The draft / FA system is broken.

AFL should either extend rookie contracts to 4 years, give clubs power to trade without player approval or apply some other form of penalty for clubs stealing youth from other clubs (cap/$).