List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Wizard17]

LDU a clear stand out midfielder for Country, I look forward to seeing how he goes against Metro. Shipley has shown good form in the div 2 champs, then in the NEAFL and is continuing into the nationals. Plenty of bottom agers already showing good signs.

Interested to see if Paton can keep this form up through the champs. Need another fast half back.

 

[Wizard17]

Also for those who are interested Lloyd Meek had 13 disposal, 16 hitouts, 6 clearances and a goal.

 

[LittleG]

Also for those who are interested Lloyd Meek had 13 disposal, 16 hitouts, 6 clearances and a goal.

What do you think of Pascoe (SA) back pocket?

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Spoiler

DOMIC FLIES ALONG INDIGENOUS PATHWAY

Spoiler

GWV Rebels top-ager Aiden Domic is a fine example of how AFL Victoria’s talent programs can help young indigenous people rise to the top levels of Victorian under-age football.

17-year-old Domic participated in the Kickstart program for indigenous under-15 players before being selected in the Flying Boomerangs indigenous representative team for the 2014 NAB AFL U16 Championships. Last year he was also part of the bottom-age cohort in the Laguntas indigenous youth development program.

After playing 11 games for the Rebels in 2016 – including their two finals – Domic has appeared in all nine matches for the club in 2017, impressing enough as a skilful and hard-running 185cm utility to be selected in the initial 65-player Vic Country squad for the upcoming AFL U18 Championships.

The Mount Clear and East Point junior missed out on making the reduced 41-player Country squad announced last week, but in the lead-up to the recent AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round, AFL Victoria Diversity Talent Manager Chris Johnson suggested the dedication he’s witnessed Domic show to his football would hold him in good stead.

“Aiden’s been a talented player for a long time, but I think through those AFL Victoria programs he’s been able to get more of an idea about what it takes to play at a high level of football,” Johnson said.

“He’s been committed to our programs for a long time and I think his journey to regular TAC Cup football is a very good example of an indigenous boy getting an opportunity after coming through our pathway.

“To get to these programs you’ve got to get to Melbourne and I know on a number of occasions he’s had to catch public transport to get down to Melbourne to be a part of programs. We had an induction night for the Flying Boomerangs one year and Aiden and his mother and grandmother all caught the train down from country Victoria just to be there for the 45-minute presentation.

“If you’re going beyond what you’re supposed to be doing, I think that goes a long way when people sit at the selection table and start talking about which players have done everything possible to earn a game.”

Dedication off the field isn’t the only reason why GWV Talent Manager Phil Partington says Domic has generated interest from AFL recruiters.

Capable of cutting through the opposition with his foot skills running out of defence or through the midfield, Domic is averaging 20 disposals (15 kicks) and five marks per game in 2017, also booting six goals.

“Aiden’s a player AFL clubs really like not just because of his skill assets but also his endurance base,” Partington said earlier this year. “He’s a hard-running midfielder who uses the ball very well but also has a very high work rate. He played 11 games for us last year as a half back flanker/winger but he’ll go on-ball this year.”

Domic has approached the shift to becoming more of an inside midfielder as a “good challenge”. He said Rebels head coach Gerard FitzGerald had been keen to see him expand on his existing strengths.

“My endurance would probably be my main strength, as well as reading the play – that comes with the endurance side of things,” Domic said earlier this year. “I can read the play, push over to the contest and be there earlier compared to some other players.

“Last year I mainly played on the wing and off the back flank, but I’m keen to play a bit more inside the contest this year.

“It’s a big statement, but I’d like to base my game around (Fremantle’s) Nat Fyfe as an inside player. I’d also like to have the spread of (Geelong’s) Patrick Dangerfield and the backwards running of (Sydney’s) Dan Hannebery. I want to be a player that can spread hard from the contest forward and just as hard back.”

Domic was happy to be able to appear in two TAC Cup finals in 2016, particularly given he missed the start of the season after catching pneumonia upon returning from a school trip to Ireland with St Patrick’s College.

He played two games in Rounds 6 and 7 before being dropped for two weeks – “I wasn’t really all that fit, I don’t think” – but rebounded to cement his spot in the side from Round 10 onwards.

Now, Domic wants to impart the resilience and dedication he’s developed over his years in the talented player pathway to others.

“I’d like to improve my all-round leadership,” Domic said.

“Last year I was a bit quiet, but I’d like to come out of my shell a bit this year and be more vocal and help the younger boys do what they need to in progressing from grassroots level into the TAC Cup system.”

http://taccup.com.au/domic-flies-along-indigenous-pathway/

CaptainMurphy

If he was part of an indigenous pathway wouldn't that make him eligible for our next gen academy?

I've honestly been wondering this, if he's eligible or not. Mum doesn't know and I haven't had a chance to ask him yet. As an GWV player would that make he eligible for us and North?

 

[Wizard17]

I've honestly been wondering this, if he's eligible or not. Mum doesn't know and I haven't had a chance to ask him yet. As an GWV player would that make he eligible for us and North?

No we have all of GWV from memory.

We split the Jets between us and North.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

No we have all of GWV from memory.

We split the Jets between us and North.

Ah yes that's right. Well let's hope he is next gen because I want him at the Dogs! I'll try and find out.

 

[Super Hans]

Anyone watching the under 18's on tv?

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-17/u18-bottomager-lukosius-stars-in-sas-big-win

JACK Lukosius can't be drafted until next year, but that didn't stop the South Australian key forward from starring in his team's 51-point win over the Allies in Saturday's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships clash.

The 194cm prospect was exciting from the start and finished as the most eye-catching player on the ground, kicking three goals from 15 disposals and eight marks.

Lukosius, who doesn't turn 17 until August, has already been tipped as perhaps the standout player of what is already shaping as a brilliant 2018 draft pool and he lived up to that in SA's 17.10 (112) to 9.7 (61) win at Adelaide Oval.

The precocious Lukosius outpointed Allies opponent Jarrod Brander, a key defender tipped to be taken early at this year's draft, before Brander moved forward in the final term.

The win was South Australia's first for the carnival after losing to Western Australia last week in extra time.

Ruckman Callum Coleman-Jones put in a dominant showing with 28 disposals, 15 hit-outs and an impact around the ground, while exciting goalkicker Jordan Houlahan booted four majors. Houlahan is a medium forward but can fly for marks and is sharp when the ball hits the ground.

Small midfielder Stefan Giro collected 30 disposals as the leading possession winner on the ground, while Jackson Edwards, the son of former Crows star Tyson, had 22 touches.

Alongside Lukosius, South Australia's band of bottom-agers were again impressive, including Jackson Hately (27 disposals) and Izak Rankine (15 disposals, two goals). Rankine's brilliant snapped goal in the second term confirmed his talent as a player to watch next year.

No.1 pick contender Darcy Fogarty had patches of influence on the game and kicked two goals from 14 disposals, including a running shot after a clever shimmy late in the final term.

The Allies had periods of better play but were ultimately comprehensively beaten by the well-drilled South Australians.

Midfielder Zac Bailey isn't tall (180cm) but he impacts games and has a bit of dash to his game, and he gathered 22 disposals and five inside-50s to be among the Allies' best, while Nick Shipley had 22 disposals (20 were handballs).

Potential father-son and academy pick Bailey Scott kicked two goals from 14 disposals to show his presence around goal.
Scott is eligible to join the Roos and Geelong as a father-son pick next year where his father Robert Scott played between 1986-2000. But he is also eligible to be a Gold Coast academy selection given he has lived in the club's zone for the required time.

Brisbane Lions academy prospect Connor Ballenden had eight touches but took five marks and had 18 hit-outs, showing he may be more of a ruckman than key forward. Tasmanian Tarryn Thomas, who can join North Melbourne as a Next Generation Academy player next year, was solid without being exceptional for the Allies and had eight tackles to go with his 12 touches.

The Allies have the bye next round of the carnival.

SOUTH AUSTRALIA 4.2 6.5 12.9 17.10 (112)
ALLIES 1.3 6.4 6.5 9.7 (61)

 

[Wizard17]

CCJ gets lots of footy for a ruck/forward.

 

[LittleG]

CCJ gets lots of footy for a ruck/forward.

28 disposals in Nat champs is great but for a big bloke to do that is outstanding.

 

[Dav1d]

Brisbane might not have to give up a first round pick if Ballenden keeps this form up, they certainly are collecting a bunch of young key position players up there

 

[JAMES_B_101]

Anyone watching the under 18's on tv?

I caught the game, was most impressed with bottom age players. Rankine is exciting. CCJ works hard but his kicking action reminds me of Casboult. Was probably best on for SA, although Giro couldn't stop finding it and works fairly hard to find space. Lukosius is super classy and I can see why he is highly rated for 2018. SA tall backs were all pretty mobile and all did nice things. Don't know much about them but guys like Petty and Schmuch seemed to be good overhead and gave some run. Didn't focus much on the Allies but Brander shifted forward late and kicked a goal. Didn't do a lot for the game so hopefully plays more forward for the rest of the champs.

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-18/u18-vic-metro-too-strong-for-wa

Jack Higgins was outstanding in Vic Metro's big win over WA

JACK Higgins came into the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with one goal in mind: to prove to everyone what a good player he is.

One game into the national carnival, the 18-year-old can tick that off as achieved.

On Sunday, Higgins pieced together a complete game that highlighted all of his key attributes. The Vic Metro midfielder gathered 30 disposals, seven clearances, two goals, nine marks and six inside-50s to power his team to a 38-point win over WA at Domain Stadium.

The Oakleigh Chargers product sees himself more as a small forward who can play in the midfield than the other way around, but he did most of his damage in the middle in Metro's 14.12 (96) to 9.4 (58) win to open their championships campaign.

He gathered five clearances and nine disposals in the first term, kicked two goals (and passed off another possible shot to a teammate) in the second quarter to go into half-time with 22 touches, and by the end was the equal leading possession winner on the ground.

Because of Higgins' stature – the tidy right-footer is 178cm – it is difficult to pinpoint exactly where in the early part of this year's NAB AFL Draft he will get taken. But his weight of performances, marking ability and capacity to hit the scoreboard means he will be in contention for the top-10.

Higgins wasn't a lone hand for Metro, though. Hard-running midfield partner Dylan Moore is also on the smaller side but gathered plenty of the ball (30 disposals, one goal) and used it well, while Tigers father-son hopeful Patrick Naish collected 22 touches to show his run.

Cameron Rayner, a strong chance to be the No.1 pick, played through the midfield and across half-forward and influenced the contest whenever he was around it. He finished with 23 disposals and a goal, and showed again his power and strength with six clearances.

Adam Cerra (24 disposals), Nick Coffield (19) and Trent Mynott (21) were others to push their claims for Metro, who will face Vic Country next Saturday at Punt Road Oval. Cerra looks likely to be an early selection, with his poise and composure with the ball a standout trait.

Western Australia's efficiency around goal kept them in touching distance for longer than might have otherwise been the case, and the gap between the sides was obvious in the inside-50 count: Metro won it by 10 entries.

But WA, following its 'golden point' win in extra time last week over South Australia, had some solid performers, with bottom-aged midfielder Tom Joyce leading the way with 23 touches. Callan England gave some good run with 17 disposals, while NAB AFL Academy member Jake Patmore was among WA's best with 19 disposals.

Key defender Aaron Naughton continued his form with 15 touches and six rebound-50s, while marking forward target Oscar Allen booted two first-term goals and finished with three as his side's only multiple goalkicker.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA 2.0 4.0 6.3 9.4 (58)
VIC METRO 2.4 6.9 11.11 14.12 (96)

GOALS
Western Australia: Allen 3, B. Miller, L.Miller, Frampton, Ameduri, Starcevich, Cameron
Vic Metro: Higgins 2, Landt 2, McLean 2, Moore, Cerra, Rayner, Naish, Coffield, Hayes, Wooller, Taylor

BEST
Western Australia: Joyce, Patmore, Allen, Ainsworth, Naughton, England
Vic Metro: Higgins, Moore, Rayner, Cerra, Naish, Coffield

 

[Gollo]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-18/u18-vic-metro-too-strong-for-wa

Still not keen on Higgins for the Dogs. An accumulator, not one we need.

 

[Dav1d]

Still not keen on Higgins for the Dogs. An accumulator, not one we need.

If we aren't rumoured into him we can all at least avoid the 1000 times people ask if he's related to Shane..

 

[Dav1d]

Rayner, Coffield & Petruccelle are the three that I really hope that we get a look at the draft, Rayner/Petruccelle been game breakers & Coffield with the athletic traits & skills to compliment our hard ball winners.

 

[Dry Rot]

Given the way we are going now, we're likely have our first round pick in the 5 - 8 range.

Any chance to get a CHF or CHB with that pick in this draft?

 

[Dav1d]

Given the way we are going now, we're likely have our first round pick in the 5 - 8 range.

Any chance to get a CHF or CHB with that pick in this draft?

Pretty slim pickings.
Coleman-Jones, Brander & Hayes for forwards
Two of those might be gone by pick 5.

Down back, not really anyone that looks like they'll go that high, I was super keen on Clavirino last year but he is an extremely defensive key back, not sure we need another just yet.

 

[Dry Rot]

Pretty slim pickings.
Coleman-Jones, Brander & Hayes for forwards
Two of those might be gone by pick 5.

Down back, not really anyone that looks like they'll go that high, I was super keen on Clavirino last year but he is an extremely defensive key back, not sure we need another just yet.

Thanks. That's depressing.

 

[Dav1d]

Thanks. That's depressing.

There's also Ballenden from Brisbane's Academy, if they decided not to match.
They do have a fair few young key position players, so maybe?

 

[Dry Rot]

There's also Ballenden from Brisbane's Academy, if they decided not to match.
They do have a fair few young key position players, so maybe?

Thanks.

Ok then, what are the top 5 mids like this year?

 

[Dav1d]

Thanks. That's depressing.

I also forgot about Balta. Knew I forgot someone

 

[Dry Rot]

I also forgot about Balta. Knew I forgot someone

Is he a tall defender? What is his likely draft range?

 

[Dav1d]

Thanks.

Ok then, what are the top 5 mids like this year?

You'd be better to ask someone else more about Darcy Fogarty, but he's up there

Luke Davies-Uniacke is a tall, skilled & athletic midfielder & has been talked about as a first pick.

Cameron Rayner is an explosive, game breaking player that can hit the scoreboard. Some question marks over his endurance.

James Worpel might be up there to, not sure he's for us. He is a contested ball maniac & a strong tackler, wouldn't be shocked to see him playing next year but he isn't the most skilled player with the ball.

Then it could be someone like Hunter Clark, Nick Coffield or Jack Petruccelle...with others putting their names up during the remainder of the year. I'm personally not a big fan of Clark but some posters do like him, Petruccelle is a 187cm midfielder/forward that comes from a basketball background & is a very slick player in tight, his kicking outside of a contest is what needs the work. Coffield is similar to Davies-Uniacke, he's tall, skilled & athletic. Not as highly rated but has shown he can versatile, playing all different positions over the ground.

 

[Dry Rot]

You'd be better to ask someone else more about Darcy Fogarty, but he's up there

Luke Davies-Uniacke is a tall, skilled & athletic midfielder & has been talked about as a first pick.

Cameron Rayner is an explosive, game breaking player that can hit the scoreboard. Some question marks over his endurance.

James Worpel might be up there to, not sure he's for us. He is a contested ball maniac & a strong tackler, wouldn't be shocked to see him playing next year but he isn't the most skilled player with the ball.

Then it could be someone like Hunter Clark, Nick Coffield or Jack Petruccelle...with others putting their names up during the remainder of the year. I'm personally not a big fan of Clark but some posters do like him, Petruccelle is a 187cm midfielder/forward that comes from a basketball background & is a very slick player in tight, his kicking outside of a contest is what needs the work. Coffield is similar to Davies-Uniacke, he's tall, skilled & athletic. Not as highly rated but has shown he can versatile, playing all different positions over the ground.

Thanks. Great reply

How deep is this draft?