List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Wizard17]

Interesting. Fogarty has massive, massive shades of Hrovat and Honeychurch which worries me a little in our system, where I think he can be a really solid player at another club but may have his development stunted at the Dogs. He is a terrific-looking player though. I prefer Moore as that undersized midfielder type, as he seems to play the small forward role really naturally which will give him a pathway into becoming a more full-time midfielder.

Those proposed trades are very speculative, particularly with Crameri who I doubt would be able to net us a pick 28. Either way, I'd be happy with that outcome as there are players in this draft that we could do well to target. The five you selected (possibly substituting Fogarty for Moore) I would be over the moon getting, but I think it's pretty much consensus, at this stage, that Cerra will go top 10. Petruccelle will also go far higher than 27, so long as he doesn't have too quiet a champs. Davies-Uniacke would surely have to be a consensus no. 1 pick right now, and Joel Garner will slide further than pick 8.

For the sake of investigation, I'm going to asume that we have those five picks at the draft. These are the areas I think we should be looking at, around that range:

Genuine midfield talent:
Petruccelle
Moore
Cerra (should he be available)
Tom North
perhaps Fogarty
Paddy Dow (if he can improve production)

Small forward-type:
Miers
Moore

Classy/speedy outside mids:
Matt Ling
Coffield
Clark (kicking shaky, however)
Garner (think he's more of a half-back than a true mid)

KPDs:
Clavarino
Naughton (although I haven't seen him play)

Agree but woukd add Oscar Allen as a CHF and Callan England as a mid.

 

[Dav1d]

Top 5 even possibly no.1 if he decides to go with footy.

CHF but athletic enough to go through the midfield too.

I hope you are right, the more tall options in the first round then the better for us.

Personally I like Balta the most for us.

Interesting. Fogarty has massive, massive shades of Hrovat and Honeychurch which worries me a little in our system, where I think he can be a really solid player at another club but may have his development stunted at the Dogs. He is a terrific-looking player though. I prefer Moore as that undersized midfielder type, as he seems to play the small forward role really naturally which will give him a pathway into becoming a more full-time midfielder.

Those proposed trades are very speculative, particularly with Crameri who I doubt would be able to net us a pick 28. Either way, I'd be happy with that outcome as there are players in this draft that we could do well to target. The five you selected (possibly substituting Fogarty for Moore) I would be over the moon getting, but I think it's pretty much consensus, at this stage, that Cerra will go top 10. Petruccelle will also go far higher than 27, so long as he doesn't have too quiet a champs. Davies-Uniacke would surely have to be a consensus no. 1 pick right now, and Joel Garner will slide further than pick 8.

For the sake of investigation, I'm going to asume that we have those five picks at the draft. These are the areas I think we should be looking at, around that range:

Genuine midfield talent:
Petruccelle
Moore
Cerra (should he be available)
Tom North
perhaps Fogarty
Paddy Dow (if he can improve production)

Small forward-type:
Miers
Moore

Classy/speedy outside mids:
Matt Ling
Coffield
Clark (kicking shaky, however)
Garner (think he's more of a half-back than a true mid)

KPDs:
Clavarino
Naughton (although I haven't seen him play)

Petruccelle is also very quick, I was a big fan of Clavirino but have cooled on him a bit because he seems more of a ultra defensive old school key back, not sure that is what we would be after.

I hope there are a couple of mature age options at the end of the year to, especially if we have to go deep into the draft. A mature aged body might just give the youngsters the time to develop & if they happen to be a decent player to...well Alright!

 

[Gollo]

Coffield strikes me as the type of player Dalrymple would draft.

Yep, I can see that happening. Has the tools to provide another attacking option down back with the size to fill almost any role. If he can develop a contested game and move into the midfield he may be able to play like a Pendlebury type, who he's been likened to.

 

[Gollo]

I hope you are right, the more tall options in the first round then the better for us.

Personally I like Balta the most for us.

Petruccelle is also very quick, I was a big fan of Clavirino but have cooled on him a bit because he seems more of a ultra defensive old school key back, not sure that is what we would be after.

I hope there are a couple of mature age options at the end of the year to, especially if we have to go deep into the draft. A mature aged body might just give the youngsters the time to develop & if they happen to be a decent player to...well Alright!

I thought Clavarino had quite a strong rebounding game. His intercept marking has been talked up quite highly and is considered a strength of his.

If we're thinking about mature agers, I'd like to bring up Jonathon Marsh, who I'm staggered not to have seen on the actual thread for mature age prospects. Marsh is playing as an inside mid in the WAFL after leaving Collingwood to return home, and is killing it. He had a five game stretch where he didn't drop below 30 disposals and hasn't dropped below 20 all season, and his mark and tackle numbers have been superb too. This is a guy with a 192cm, 89kg profile who runs a 20m sprint in 2.8s. If he keeps this up all season, and is willing to leave WA again, we may have an answer to our midfield speed issue.

 

[Wizard17]

I hope you are right, the more tall options in the first round then the better for us.

Personally I like Balta the most for us.

Petruccelle is also very quick, I was a big fan of Clavirino but have cooled on him a bit because he seems more of a ultra defensive old school key back, not sure that is what we would be after.

I hope there are a couple of mature age options at the end of the year to, especially if we have to go deep into the draft. A mature aged body might just give the youngsters the time to develop & if they happen to be a decent player to...well Alright!

Nick Jamieson

 

[Dav1d]

Nick Jamieson

Watch Vital say we are interested & then Melbourne swoop in..

When will we learn
#BanVD

 

[LittleG]

Bruhn?


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[Wizard17]

Watch Vital say we are interested & then Melbourne swoop in..

When will we learn
#BanVD

As far as top 50 picks we currently have picks 10, 27 & 37. Interesting to see who we go with at those picks.

10 - Nick Coffield (190cm Utility)
27 - Gryan Miers (177cm Goal kicking Small Forward/Mid)
37 - Tom McCartin (192cm CHF) (late B'day and aerobic ability could see him taken quite a bit earlier though)

 

[Dav1d]

As far as top 50 picks we currently have picks 10, 27 & 37. Interesting to see who we go with at those picks.

10 - Nick Coffield (190cm Utility)
27 - Gryan Miers (177cm Goal kicking Small Forward/Mid)
37 - Tom McCartin (192cm CHF) (late B'day and aerobic ability could see him taken quite a bit earlier though)

I like Petruccelle/Coffield at our first, probably Balta if they've both gone

And hope the rest of the talls get gobbled up before our second round pick & we can snatch up someone like Dow there

 

[Dry Rot]

37 - Tom McCartin (192cm CHF) (late B'day and aerobic ability could see him taken quite a bit earlier though)

Is he related to that St Kilda dud?

 

[JAMES_B_101]

Really like Coffield, he reminds me a bit of Heppell in all honesty. Also liking Naughton from WA as a back option. If he lasts to second round he'd be a bargain I reckon.

 

[Wizard17]

I like Petruccelle/Coffield at our first, probably Balta if they've both gone

And hope the rest of the talls get gobbled up before our second round pick & we can snatch up someone like Dow there

More concerned about getting some proper forwards if we took a midfielder with our first than getting more mids. Our forward line is hopeless because some of our forwards have no idea how to play as forwards...

Is he related to that St Kilda dud?

Younger Bro. Also youngest player in this draft, born a couple of days later and he wouldn't be eligible.

Very good contested mark and covers a lot of ground in games. Basically the CHF that we have been lacking.

 

[Pugz89]

More concerned about getting some proper forwards if we took a midfielder with our first than getting more mids. Our forward line is hopeless because some of our forwards have no idea how to play as forwards...

Younger Bro. Also youngest player in this draft, born a couple of days later and he wouldn't be eligible.

Very good contested mark and covers a lot of ground in games. Basically the CHF that we have been lacking.

Imagine we grab him, would make it two years in a row we have grabbed the youngest eligible draftee after we took Young last year.

 

[Mofra]

More concerned about getting some proper forwards if we took a midfielder with our first than getting more mids. Our forward line is hopeless because some of our forwards have no idea how to play as forwards...

Younger Bro. Also youngest player in this draft, born a couple of days later and he wouldn't be eligible.

Very good contested mark and covers a lot of ground in games. Basically the CHF that we have been lacking.

Is he good enough to shake our dud-brother curse?

 

[LittleG]

Is he good enough to shake our dud-brother curse?

Saints appear to have the dud one. He can't get on the park.

 

[Dry Rot]

Is McCartin jnr @ 192 cm a bit short for a CHF?

Would he last to pick 37?

 

[SteelF6]

Paddy's only 194cm at FF, looks like Tom might be taller than his bro in a few years.

 

[Wizard17]

Is McCartin jnr @ 192 cm a bit short for a CHF?

Would he last to pick 37?

Born on the 30th of December. Will grow a bit after he is drafted you'd think.

He is a possible early to mid 2nd round pick. Could be there at 37 or could be gone.

Jordan Butts is of similar age and looks like he can cover the ground really well and mark strongly overhead. More of a Key Back though.

Could also have Tom De Koning in mix. Hasn't grown into his 200cm frame yet. If you judge a bit of his underage form last year he could be anything in 2-3 years.

Having similar picks to the Dunkley-Collins draft could be good in this draft. Oscar Allen + Paddy Dow + Gyran Miers and someone like David Handley (replace Dickson) geez.

 

[LittleG]

Having similar picks to the Dunkley-Collins draft could be good in this draft. Oscar Allen + Paddy Dow + Gyran Miers and someone like David Handley (replace Dickson) geez.

I think we need another early pick. Really need another star level player. Unlikely to get one with late first round picks, really need a top 5 pick.

 

[Wizard17]

I think we need another early pick. Really need another star level player. Unlikely to get one with late first round picks, really need a top 5 pick.

Reckon we can get one with our first where it is with Dal he is likely to pick up one up anywhere in the draft...

Got a list of a few players I could see us being interested in and the current range I have them in below.

8 - 15

Nick Coffield
Noah Balta
Joel Garner
Charlie Constable
Adam Cerra

15 - 25

Jack Pertuccelle
Callum Coleman-Jones
Oscar Allen
Paddy Dow
Tom North
Matt Ling
Aaron Naughton
Oscar Clavarino

25 - 40

Gryan Miers
Dylan Moore
Toby Wooller
Callan England
Tom McCartin
Tom DeKoning
Jordan Butts
Ethan Floyd
Ben Paton

40 to rookie

Joshua Jaska
Lloyd Meek
Matthew Day
Marcus Lentini
Nick Jamieson
David Handley
Adam Garner
Riley D'arcy
Jamieson Shea
Aiden Domic
Nick Stuhldreier
Brent Daniels
Quinton Montanaro

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

In my completely uneducated opinion, Stephenson looks like the standard, outstanding general forward who slides further than he ought to because he's not a midfielder or tall forward. Thoughts?

 

[Dav1d]

In my completely uneducated opinion, Stephenson looks like the standard, outstanding general forward who slides further than he ought to because he's not a midfielder or tall forward. Thoughts?

I like him on talent
But I'm skeptical because of his body type & looking far more comfortable up forward

Billings never looked like a midfielder as a junior but then he is supposed to be better than Bontempelli

 

[Gollo]

In my completely uneducated opinion, Stephenson looks like the standard, outstanding general forward who slides further than he ought to because he's not a midfielder or tall forward. Thoughts?

Maybe. I don't really see it with Stephenson. He has deficiencies which prevent him from performing strongly as a mid, or a genuine key forward (height). He's a true leadup forward, in my opinion, who isn't blessed with height or size, and this means that he's been tried in multiple different roles as a lanky 189cm key forward isn't quite with the times, as you say. He's not an accumulator, which (although I'm speculating) is mostly down to the fact that he hasn't played in the mid much, his defensive work leaves something to be desired, and he doesn't have a real standout trait which he's used to good effect consistently this year up the ground.

 

[Gollo]

Reckon we can get one with our first where it is with Dal he is likely to pick up one up anywhere in the draft...

Got a list of a few players I could see us being interested in and the current range I have them in below.

8 - 15

Nick Coffield
Noah Balta
Joel Garner
Charlie Constable
Adam Cerra

15 - 25

Jack Pertuccelle
Callum Coleman-Jones
Oscar Allen
Paddy Dow
Tom North
Matt Ling
Aaron Naughton
Oscar Clavarino

25 - 40

Gryan Miers
Dylan Moore
Toby Wooller
Callan England
Tom McCartin
Tom DeKoning
Jordan Butts
Ethan Floyd
Ben Paton

40 to rookie

Joshua Jaska
Lloyd Meek
Matthew Day
Marcus Lentini
Nick Jamieson
David Handley
Adam Garner
Riley D'arcy
Jamieson Shea
Aiden Domic
Nick Stuhldreier
Brent Daniels
Quinton Montanaro

I'd add Max Dreher into the 40+ range, and I'm not quite there with Constable yet. I'd like to see him string more standout performances together, as I've only seen him perform in one game. I'd also be surprised if we were big on Coleman-Jones, what with taking English last year, and from what I've heard and seen he'll definitely go higher than the 15-25 range, at least at this stage. Also not sure if De Koning has shown enough to be rated that highly.

 

[Wizard17]

I'd add Max Dreher into the 40+ range, and I'm not quite there with Constable yet. I'd like to see him string more standout performances together, as I've only seen him perform in one game. I'd also be surprised if we were big on Coleman-Jones, what with taking English last year, and from what I've heard and seen he'll definitely go higher than the 15-25 range, at least at this stage. Also not sure if De Koning has shown enough to be rated that highly.

Constable reminds me a bit of Patrick Cripps his height and ability to find the football will make him rise up the boards.

Coleman-Jones I can see doing an English/Grundy and sliding down a bit especially with Hayes already high up the boards.

De Koning has not quite come together yet. His best is great but he is inconsistent. His height, versatility and his form from last year has him sitting at the later end of that range.

Dreher is one I missed.

As far as those later picks and rookie picks go I could see Dal really liking Jaska (KPD) and Day (Mid), Jaska reminds me a lot of Morris, can see him being a very good defender once he bulks up. Day is damaging only needs 20-25 touches to blow a team apart and has those bball movements that Macrae, Lippy and Bont have.