List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Pugz89]

Hell yeah
But I don't think a team would, not a top 5 pick anyway. I doubt even a top 10 pick, ...maybe in the teens but then there are no certainties that we'd get a player we wanted to take that high if most of our choices are off the table.

Both first round picks might go to Adelaide anyway. If the Lever rumours are true.

You'd hope we don't cough up two firsts. Otherwise I'd want something back from them. Yes, I know Danger was a RFA but Lever is uncontracted and compare the two trades. Reckon our first (Given it will be a likely top 5) and a fringe player is plenty.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

You'd hope we don't cough up two firsts. Otherwise I'd want something back from them. Yes, I know Danger was a RFA but Lever is uncontracted and compare the two trades. Reckon our first (Given it will be a likely top 5) and a fringe player is plenty.

First and Webb I would hope is enough, depending on where the pick lands.

 

[Wizard17]

Do you think he'll be able to really amass enough size to compete against the best big-bodied mids in the comp at AFL level, or do you think he's good enough anyway to win contested ball as a littler, skinny mid? You look at guys like Dangerfield, Ablett and Judd and they all had (to some extent) the height and strength, that it would appear Bailey's lacking, to really be dominant and dangerous.

He will be about the same size as a McLean/Dahlhaus but he is quite a bit faster than both. He has that initial burst of speed that gives him his ability to break away from contests (especially in the center where he won the game for the Allies against Metro).

Never going to have brute strength but has that doesn't really matter for mine because he has the initial speed that makes it hard for opposition midfielders to catch him when he gets the footy in the first place.

He'll probably start as a pressuring half forward at AFL level.

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-12/worth-a-look-sanfl-players-pushing-their-draft-case

Spoiler

FORMER Melbourne speedster Dom Barry is back on the AFL radar after an impressive first season with Glenelg.

The 23-year-old's blistering pace down the wing and outside run will be enough to get clubs taking a second look.

Barry has made an immediate impact at the Tigers, averaging 21 disposals per game to go with 10 goals.

He joined the Tigers after moving to Adelaide earlier this year to study a Bachelor of Education.

Barry left his career at the Demons behind at the end of 2014 so he could be closer to his family in the APY Lands.

After spending time in Darwin and Alice Springs, Barry played several games last year for Fregon in the Far North West Sports League while driving a bus as part of the Federal Government remote school attendance strategy.

Another former AFL-listed player in Nick Holman is having an outstanding season for Central.

Barry's Glenelg teammates Jonty Scharenberg and Ian Milera will also be in consideration.

Experts were shocked Scharenberg – an under-18 All Australian last year – didn't earn a spot on at least a rookie list.

Scharenberg has adapted well to a move to half-back, while Milera is an excitement machine in the forward pocket.

Dom Barry (Glenelg)
Played two seasons with Melbourne before leaving the Demons at the end of 2014 to move to the APY Lands in far north South Australia to reconnect with his family's culture. The 23-year-old has been a revelation in his first season with Glenelg with his blistering speed on the wing. Has attracted the attention of a couple of AFL clubs.

Sam Baulderstone (Norwood)
Maybe the 26-year-old has missed the boat, but we've seen AFL clubs take a punt on older ruckmen in the past. Baulderstone has been the standout big man in the SANFL for the past couple of years. His tap work is excellent and gets around the ground well.

Sam Colquhoun (Norwood)
The former Port Adelaide midfielder has shown he deserves another chance at the top level, averaging 25 disposals a game (fourth in the competition). Colquhoun, 22, has slotted in seamlessly across half-back and on the wing. Played 16 games for the Power from 2013-16.

After his first AFL stint was cut short Sam Colquhoun could be ready for another shot. Picture: AFL Photos

Mitch Grigg (Norwood)
Delisted by the Crows at the end of last year, the 24-year-old is having a superb season for the Redlegs. Would feature at the pointy end of Magarey Medal voting right now, averaging 25.8 disposals per game. Possesses great hands and makes brilliant decisions.

Nick Holman (Central)
The 22-year-old inside midfielder is having an outstanding season in his second year with the Bulldogs having played nine games for Carlton in 2014-15. Holman has also shown the ability to push forward and be a threat in attack. Had an incredible 38 possessions and booted five goals for Central in a 97-point thumping of Glenelg. Also leads the SANFL in tackles (85, 7.1 per game).

Ian Milera (Glenelg)
An exciting small forward, the 19-year-old has stepped into the void left by Willie Rioli, selected by West Coast in the rookie draft last year. The cousin of Adelaide young gun Wayne Milera is extremely accurate in front of goal this year, booting 23.5 in 12 games.

Liam McBean (Glenelg)
The ex-Richmond key forward has had an up and down season in his first campaign with the Tigers. Booted six goals against a Port Adelaide side stocked with AFL-listed talent earlier in the season. Hard to move out of the goal-square at 202cm and 108kg. Turns 23 in August.

Jonty Scharenberg (Glenelg)
One of only three draft-eligible under-18 All-Australians to miss out on getting drafted last year. The younger brother of Collingwood's Matt has put the disappointment behind him with an impressive season for Glenelg, despite getting dropped early in the season. Has returned strongly since being recalled and adapted well to a new half-back role, averaging just over 20 possessions per game. Turns 19 in August.

It surprised many that Jonty Scharenberg wasn't drafted last year. Picture: AFL Media

Travis Schiller (Central)
There's not much of the feisty midfielder, but what the 175cm Schiller lacks in size, he makes up in toughness. Finds plenty of the ball, leading the competition with 28 possessions per game. Was in the SA squad last year and at only 23, the AFL door is still ajar.

Steven Slimming (Sturt)
Possessing an impressive left-foot kick, Slimming has had some solid games for the Double Blues this year playing across wing and half-back. Was part of the AFL Academy and the SA under-18 team last year. Needs to work on his accuracy in front of goal, kicking just 2.10 this season.

Jack Stephens (Sturt)
The best on ground in last year's grand final victory for the Double Blues, the versatile defender has continued that stellar form in 2017. A versatile defender who can play on talls and smalls, Stephens in courageous and never shirks a contest. The only concern is his age (26).

 

[Gollo]

Would anyone else be open to us giving Sam Colquhoun a rookie spot? I had no idea Port delisted him, always thought he was a really solid player off of half-back with great ball winning ability, albeit small, circa Matty Boyd of 2015-2016. Would be a good way to add backline depth in a very risk-free way.

 

[TiAn_]

Barry & Milera the only two there that interest me.

 

[Northern Dogs]

Would anyone else be open to us giving Sam Colquhoun a rookie spot? I had no idea Port delisted him, always thought he was a really solid player off of half-back with great ball winning ability, albeit small, circa Matty Boyd of 2015-2016. Would be a good way to add backline depth in a very risk-free way.

Not too keen on that idea as his name is too hard to pronounce!

 

[Dav1d]

Not too keen on that idea as his name is too hard to pronounce!

Cal-hoon? Isn't that hard

 

[Gollo]

Not too keen on that idea as his name is too hard to pronounce!

Nah - just "col-hoon", similar to what Dav1d said. He's just a really safe, reliable depth option.

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-13/southport-mid-set-to-soar-neafl-prospects-to-watch

Spoiler

A LITTLE known midfielder from Southport has zoomed onto the AFL radar with a stunning season for the last-placed Sharks.

Jordan Keras came to the Gold Coast from Victoria prior to the 2016 season to further his education and has made a great fist of things with his footy at the same time.

Through sheer weight of numbers, the 23-year-old is leading the competition's MVP award from a host of former AFL and Academy players.

Keras is averaging 36 disposals and 9.5 clearances, all at an efficiency of 75 per cent.

His fitness level would easily fit in at AFL level.


The one question mark on the in-and-under midfielder is his ability to go forward and kick goals, but in a team running last and with less talent than most of its opponents, he hasn't been given many opportunities.

Former Sydney forward Xavier Richards would also still be of interest to AFL clubs after he unexpectedly walked away from the Swans at the end of last season.

While not setting the world on fire for Sydney University, Richards has been solid and his athleticism and footy smarts should be still appealing.

Oskar Baker (Aspley)
The flying winger has some real X-factor and is a smoky for the draft. Just 19, 'The Ginger Ninja' loves to take the game on between the arcs and has speed to hurt the opposition. Still a work in progress, Baker is capable of going forward and kicking goals.

Darcy Baron-Hay (Sydney University)
The former Swans academy member has been a quality key defender this season after playing most of his junior footy as a forward, taking on the likes of AFL star Jon Patton and acquitting himself well. A solid finish to the year could put him back on the radar.

Hayden Bertoli-Simmonds (Redland)
The former Lions Academy player won the NEAFL Rising Star last year and is having another strong campaign. At 21, the in-and-under midfielder is the club's youngest ever captain, is still improving and works both ways.

Nathan Cooper (Sydney University)
The athletic key defender is a great size at 195cm and 93kg and at just 19 has plenty of time to develop. Spent time with the Swans development squad last year where he was a member of their losing NEAFL Grand Final side, and represented the League in this year's win over Tasmania.

Jordan Harper (Canberra Demons)
The midfielder is currently sitting eighth in the NEAFL's MVP award after finishing second last year, and starred for the representative side with 33 touches in their win over Tassie. The former NEAFL team of the year representative attended last year's draft combine and is still only 23.

Jordan Keras (Southport)
The competition's standout player this season, Keras is averaging 36 disposals and 9.5 clearances at 75 percent efficiency in the midfield. In his second season at Southport since moving from Geelong, Keras has incredible endurance that could easily match it at AFL level and a hunger to find the ball that's hard to match.

Xavier Richards (Sydney University)
The former Sydney forward shocked the footy world when he walked away from an AFL contract at the end of last season and landed in the NEAFL, where he represented the League against Tasmania in July. Still has the attributes to play at the top level and might be worth another look.

Jack Rolls (Redland)
Overcame knee tendinitis early in the year to again be having a strong impact at NEAFL level. The former AFL and Lions Academy midfielder has just turned 19 and received a Rising Star nomination for the third year straight. Rolls has a high workrate, can find the ball, and has steadily improved his disposal efficiency, which has previously been a knock.

Adam Sambono (NT Thunder)
A truly untapped talent, Sambono started the NEAFL season in white-hot form, with his uncanny goalsense proving difficult to match up on. A late-comer to organised footy, Sambono is from a remote community in the Northern Territory, is wiry, and has freakish skills. The 20-year-old earned selection in the competition's representative team and was granted special permission to play in the Allies under-18 team.

 

[TommyD13]

Great to see Keras still going from strength to strength

 

[Pugz89]

Lloyd Meed named at FF for the Rebels for clash against Chargers on Sunday.

Thinking of popping down and having a look, any I should keep an eye on in particular?

 

[Wizard17]

Lloyd Meed named at FF for the Rebels for clash against Chargers on Sunday.

Thinking of popping down and having a look, any I should keep an eye on in particular?

Appleby, Domic, Meek, Johnstone

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-14/worth-a-look-vfl-stars-pushing-their-draft-case

Spoiler

NO LEAGUE produces AFL-ready talent like the VFL.

Take last year for example, when 13 of the Victorian state league's finest joined AFL clubs via the national or rookie drafts.

Seven – Robbie Fox, Mitch Hannan, Ben Long, Ben McNiece, Luke Ryan, Tim Smith and Tom Stewart – have already made their AFL debut this year. There is more where that comes from in the 2017 crop.

Among them are familiar names such as Williamstown's Ben Cavarra and Michael Gibbons and Werribee gun Matt Hanson, emerging players like Geelong's James Tsitas and Essendon's Nash Holmes, and ex-AFL talent in Port Melbourne's Eli Templeton.

In some cases, all these guys are guilty of is measuring below 180cm. In others, they might be missing a yard of pace, slightly untidy with their ball use or perceived to have a lack of versatility.

But pertinent is the Michael Barlow story of repeatedly being overlooked – for some of the reasons above – only for him to make everyone look silly with his instant impact in 2010, as a 22-year-old.

Gibbons, arguably the VFL's No.1 AFL draft prospect, will take heart from Barlow's journey.

The reigning J.J. Liston Trophy winner led the VFL in disposals, uncontested possessions and inside 50s last year and claimed the Frank Johnson Medal as the VFL's best player in representative duty, but went undrafted.

Ben Allan (Coburg)
The former Calder Cannon is small but prolific by hand, boasts pace to burn and can run all day, a la Hawthorn's Billy Hartung. Allan's strong finish to last year earned him a berth in the AFL Victoria Young Guns representative match and he has continued that form in 2017.

Kade Answerth (Sandringham)
Compared to Joel Selwood for his courageous acts and was runner-up in the Zebras' best and fairest in his debut VFL season last year, after being best afield in the 2015 TAC Cup Grand Final. Answerth is regarded highly for his professionalism, is equally effective inside and outside the contest and has a vicious sidestep in his arsenal.

Brett Bewley (Williamstown)
Free of the puppy fat and two years separated from the VFL development league, this Stuart Dew clone is emerging quickly and routinely thunders the ball 60 metres off his left boot. An NFL career beckons if an AFL one doesn’t eventuate. Bewley was particularly torrid in the past month, including a 41-possession effort on Sunday.

Ben Cavarra (Williamstown)
A perennial mention on these lists since missing out in the 2013 drafts. Cavarra's resume is immense: two best and fairests for TAC Cup club Eastern Ranges, as well as winning the Morrish Medal, and another two for Frankston in the VFL. Switched to the Seagulls this year and has shone with his skill and pressure as a 175cm forward.

Sam Dobson (Geelong)
Could be the Cats' latest success story out of local football. Stands 189cm and has brought his prolific goalkicking ways to the VFL, booting 12 in five matches in 2017. Turned 24 in June and has some similarities to Port Adelaide recruit Brett Eddy.

Michael Gibbons (Williamstown)
There isn't much more Gibbons, 22, can do to score an AFL gig after his enormous VFL campaign last year, including winning the two biggest individual honours in the J.J. Liston Trophy and Frank Johnson Medal. The 174cm midfielder is averaging 26 disposals and 5.2 tackles this season, and has worked hard on his kicking.

Matt Hanson (Werribee)
Strong-bodied onballer who won the Tigers' past two best and fairests in seasons also rewarded with VFL Team of the Year selection. An expert at stoppages and reading the play, but the consistent knock on him is his skill execution under pressure. Has worked hard on that area and is churning out another brilliant VFL campaign.

Nash Holmes (Essendon)
The hard-running Gippsland Power product is a midfield bull who intimidates much older opponents on the field despite being in just his second VFL season. Represented Victoria Country at underage level. An ankle injury has kept him sidelined since late May.

Nick Rippon (North Ballarat)
The 2015 J.J. Liston Trophy champion missed out in the 2012 AFL drafts despite some interest and went on to become one of the most decorated VFL footballers going around. Rippon is a ball magnet, although there are queries on his efficiency, and thrives despite the Roosters being without a win this year.

Sam Switkowski (Box Hill)
Switkowski represented the VFL this year and is yet to turn 21. He is another from the sub-180cm club and has battled glandular fever, but can play up forward – where he averages more than two goals and almost five tackles a game – and in the middle.

Eli Templeton (Port Melbourne)
The ex-Saint, who grew up in Tasmania, played 14 AFL matches across three seasons after being a rookie selection, before being delisted last year. That setback has not stopped Templeton from averaging 28-plus possessions, including five games with at least 30, in the VFL this season. Might be worth another shot.

James Tsitas (Geelong)
Four years have passed since he was a Geelong Falcons co-captain and part of the NAB AFL Academy. But Tsitas, 22, has taken his game to a new level this season in performing a number of different roles through the midfield, including as a tagger.

 

[Gollo]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-14/worth-a-look-vfl-stars-pushing-their-draft-case

Spoiler

NO LEAGUE produces AFL-ready talent like the VFL.

Take last year for example, when 13 of the Victorian state league's finest joined AFL clubs via the national or rookie drafts.

Seven – Robbie Fox, Mitch Hannan, Ben Long, Ben McNiece, Luke Ryan, Tim Smith and Tom Stewart – have already made their AFL debut this year. There is more where that comes from in the 2017 crop.

Among them are familiar names such as Williamstown's Ben Cavarra and Michael Gibbons and Werribee gun Matt Hanson, emerging players like Geelong's James Tsitas and Essendon's Nash Holmes, and ex-AFL talent in Port Melbourne's Eli Templeton.

In some cases, all these guys are guilty of is measuring below 180cm. In others, they might be missing a yard of pace, slightly untidy with their ball use or perceived to have a lack of versatility.

But pertinent is the Michael Barlow story of repeatedly being overlooked – for some of the reasons above – only for him to make everyone look silly with his instant impact in 2010, as a 22-year-old.

Gibbons, arguably the VFL's No.1 AFL draft prospect, will take heart from Barlow's journey.

The reigning J.J. Liston Trophy winner led the VFL in disposals, uncontested possessions and inside 50s last year and claimed the Frank Johnson Medal as the VFL's best player in representative duty, but went undrafted.

Ben Allan (Coburg)
The former Calder Cannon is small but prolific by hand, boasts pace to burn and can run all day, a la Hawthorn's Billy Hartung. Allan's strong finish to last year earned him a berth in the AFL Victoria Young Guns representative match and he has continued that form in 2017.

Kade Answerth (Sandringham)
Compared to Joel Selwood for his courageous acts and was runner-up in the Zebras' best and fairest in his debut VFL season last year, after being best afield in the 2015 TAC Cup Grand Final. Answerth is regarded highly for his professionalism, is equally effective inside and outside the contest and has a vicious sidestep in his arsenal.

Brett Bewley (Williamstown)
Free of the puppy fat and two years separated from the VFL development league, this Stuart Dew clone is emerging quickly and routinely thunders the ball 60 metres off his left boot. An NFL career beckons if an AFL one doesn’t eventuate. Bewley was particularly torrid in the past month, including a 41-possession effort on Sunday.

Ben Cavarra (Williamstown)
A perennial mention on these lists since missing out in the 2013 drafts. Cavarra's resume is immense: two best and fairests for TAC Cup club Eastern Ranges, as well as winning the Morrish Medal, and another two for Frankston in the VFL. Switched to the Seagulls this year and has shone with his skill and pressure as a 175cm forward.

Sam Dobson (Geelong)
Could be the Cats' latest success story out of local football. Stands 189cm and has brought his prolific goalkicking ways to the VFL, booting 12 in five matches in 2017. Turned 24 in June and has some similarities to Port Adelaide recruit Brett Eddy.

Michael Gibbons (Williamstown)
There isn't much more Gibbons, 22, can do to score an AFL gig after his enormous VFL campaign last year, including winning the two biggest individual honours in the J.J. Liston Trophy and Frank Johnson Medal. The 174cm midfielder is averaging 26 disposals and 5.2 tackles this season, and has worked hard on his kicking.

Matt Hanson (Werribee)
Strong-bodied onballer who won the Tigers' past two best and fairests in seasons also rewarded with VFL Team of the Year selection. An expert at stoppages and reading the play, but the consistent knock on him is his skill execution under pressure. Has worked hard on that area and is churning out another brilliant VFL campaign.

Nash Holmes (Essendon)
The hard-running Gippsland Power product is a midfield bull who intimidates much older opponents on the field despite being in just his second VFL season. Represented Victoria Country at underage level. An ankle injury has kept him sidelined since late May.

Nick Rippon (North Ballarat)
The 2015 J.J. Liston Trophy champion missed out in the 2012 AFL drafts despite some interest and went on to become one of the most decorated VFL footballers going around. Rippon is a ball magnet, although there are queries on his efficiency, and thrives despite the Roosters being without a win this year.

Sam Switkowski (Box Hill)
Switkowski represented the VFL this year and is yet to turn 21. He is another from the sub-180cm club and has battled glandular fever, but can play up forward – where he averages more than two goals and almost five tackles a game – and in the middle.

Eli Templeton (Port Melbourne)
The ex-Saint, who grew up in Tasmania, played 14 AFL matches across three seasons after being a rookie selection, before being delisted last year. That setback has not stopped Templeton from averaging 28-plus possessions, including five games with at least 30, in the VFL this season. Might be worth another shot.

James Tsitas (Geelong)
Four years have passed since he was a Geelong Falcons co-captain and part of the NAB AFL Academy. But Tsitas, 22, has taken his game to a new level this season in performing a number of different roles through the midfield, including as a tagger.

I've always thought Nash Holmes and Kade Answerth were massively stitched up not being selected as 18 and 19 year-olds. Not for us, but they would both be easily able to step into an AFL midfield group, are of a decent size and have minimal major weaknesses in their games.

 

[Wizard17]

CaptainMurphy just judging on the BF Phantom I think there will be some weird picks in this year's draft because we all seem to have such different rankings.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

CaptainMurphy just judging on the BF Phantom I think there will be some weird picks in this year's draft because we all seem to have such different rankings.

Yeah it's all over the shop. I do my own meta rankings by combining all the power rankings I can find and this year's is a lot more varied than past years, even up the top. I imagine past a certain point it will be largely unknowns.

 

[Wizard17]

Yeah it's all over the shop. I do my own meta rankings by combining all the power rankings I can find and this year's is a lot more varied than past years, even up the top. I imagine past a certain point it will be largely unknowns.

Looks like you couldn't quite predict Handley at 79.

In the top 5 small forwards in this years pool imo.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Looks like you couldn't quite predict Handley at 79.

In the top 5 small forwards in this years pool imo.

Yeah that one was a bit beyond me, haven't seen him pop up at all. You mentioned he's a bit of a Dickson, does that mean he's more of a lead out type?

 

[Wizard17]

Very good looking set shot and moves into dangerous spots.

I said he would take Dickson's spot in time doesn't mean he is exactly the same type of player.

 

[Wizard17]

So picks in the BF Phantom trial for us.

Top 50

1 - Nick Coffield (190cm HB) - 23/10/1999
2 - Zac Bailey (180cm Mid/Fwd) - 23/9/1999
3 - Toby Wooller (193cm Mid/Fwd) - 16/3/1999

Late

4 - David Handley (181cm Fwd) - 1/9/1999
5 - Riley D'arcy (189cm Fwd) - 28/12/1999

 

[Gollo]

Aaaaaaand Sutherland chooses cricket. Not surprised in the slightest.

https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/2017/07/16/dual-sport-gun-will-sutherland-knocks-back-football/

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Aaaaaaand Sutherland chooses cricket. Not surprised in the slightest.

https://www.afl*******************/2017/07/16/dual-sport-gun-will-sutherland-knocks-back-football/

Damn

 

[Gollo]

Damn

To be perfectly honest, I hadn't seen nearly enough performance from Sutherland to be at all convinced of his high ranking. I wouldn't have felt entirely comfortable with us taking him with our first until I had seen more and better performances from him.

 

[Dav1d]

Aaaaaaand Sutherland chooses cricket. Not surprised in the slightest.

https://www.afl*******************/2017/07/16/dual-sport-gun-will-sutherland-knocks-back-football/

I'm a bit disappointed, I think another club could've taken him higher than our pick & meant we had an extra player as an option

I still expect that we trade this years pick anyway.