List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Wizard17]

Anyone know the prospects of drafting Callan wellings, Lloyd Meek, Aiden Domic and Jordan Johnston, and even anythinh on Elliot Lamb? All from GWV rebels

Cal Wellings - Not for us.
Lloyd Meek - Big on him as a Ruck/Key Forward. Has shown that he can transfer his tac form over to VFL this year.
Aiden Domic - Like him, has size and moves well defensively and offensively.
Jordan Johnston - Something turns me off Johnston don't rate him as highly as other small forwards like Miers, Handley, Sambono et.al.

 

[Wizard17]

Hugh Dixon mark at about 2:50ish.

Very decent mark that.

 

[Dav1d]

Oscar Allen has his highlights last, loves a mark.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Oscar Allen has his highlights last, loves a mark.

I'm real keen on him. I reckon he grows a couple cm and becomes a proper KPF. Sadly he's somewhere between our two picks but I wouldn't be too upset if we went early on him. Would be ecstatic if he lasted to pick 26.

 

[Wizard17]

Dixon made the TSL team of the week at Full Forward. Seems to be playing really well atm.

http://tasmanianstateleague.com.au/2017/08/tsl-team-of-the-week-round-21/

Hugh Dixon (Tigers)

Dixon backed up his five goal haul from Round 20 with three majors from four shots on goal under lights on Friday, but it was the way he did it that was impressive. His leading up the ground and contested marks stood out, with a hanger on the shoulders of opponent Liam Azzopardi bringing the whole crowd to life. Dixon’s work at ground level to feed the ball out to team mates highlighted the roundness of his game, in a performance that is sure to have caught the eyes of potential draft scouts.

Edit: two weeks in a row...

http://tasmanianstateleague.com.au/2017/08/tsl-team-of-the-week-round-1920/

Hugh Dixon (Tigers)
The young key forward stepped up to be the focal point for his side, demanding the ball inside 50 to kick four goals from four strong marks in the first quarter alone. The draft prospect showed why is so highly rated, also spending time in the ruck before finishing with 5.1 in a dominant performance.

 

[bulldogs54]

I liked the look of Hugh Dixon. Wonder if he is any chance to bolt toward the top 10? Maybe we might consider him for pick 9.
Seems to have a bit to work with. Wonder what his aerobic capacity is like?

 

[Wizard17]

I liked the look of Hugh Dixon. Wonder if he is any chance to bolt toward the top 10? Maybe we might consider him for pick 9.
Seems to have a bit to work with. Wonder what his aerobic capacity is like?

Reckon he could push up into the twenties. Don't think he'll push up that high.

I want to see his aerobic capacity with the new tests at the combine. Seems to stay near to the forward 50 but that could just be u18 anti congestion rules.

 

[bulldogs54]

Reckon he could push up into the twenties. Don't think he'll push up that high.

I want to see his aerobic capacity with the new tests at the combine. Seems to stay near to the forward 50 but that could just be u18 anti congestion rules.

I'm thinking we might not get a 2nd look at him by the time pick 26 comes around, hard to say really. I've only seen brief highlights but he seems to have good hands for the most part, seems to also have a nice relaxed left foot kicking style like Jaryd Roughead in front of goal.

I don't know much about the Tassie state league but I assume he's kicking 5.1 against senior opposition, not just kids that are smaller than he is. He should be one to keep an eye on, could be some upside to his game just yet.

 

[jock graeme]

Hugh Dixon mark at about 2:50ish.

Very decent mark that.

Hugh Dixon mark at about 2:50ish.

Very decent mark that.

I'm thinking we might not get a 2nd look at him by the time pick 26 comes around, hard to say really. I've only seen brief highlights but he seems to have good hands for the most part, seems to also have a nice relaxed left foot kicking style like Jaryd Roughead in front of goal.

I don't know much about the Tassie state league but I assume he's kicking 5.1 against senior opposition, not just kids that are smaller than he is. He should be one to keep an eye on, could be some upside to his game just yet.

He has been playing TSL seniors. His opponents have included ex-AFL listed players. He has often been playing up the ground, including the ruck. Video will answer further further quetions.

 

[Wizard17]

I'm thinking we might not get a 2nd look at him by the time pick 26 comes around, hard to say really. I've only seen brief highlights but he seems to have good hands for the most part, seems to also have a nice relaxed left foot kicking style like Jaryd Roughead in front of goal.

I don't know much about the Tassie state league but I assume he's kicking 5.1 against senior opposition, not just kids that are smaller than he is. He should be one to keep an eye on, could be some upside to his game just yet.

We will have to see how things unfold in the next couple of weeks and at the combine. His range right now is about 25-40ish because of players in the other leagues getting a bit more exposure.

Reckon he could be a steal at 26 because of that and it isn't out of the question he will be available there. Actually at this point it is likely.

I actually used the same comparison last time I mentioned him post champs.

 

[LittleG]

He has been playing TSL seniors. His opponents have included ex-AFL listed players. He has often been playing up the ground, including the ruck. Video will answer further further quetions.

His endurance needs work but you can tell he has been improving it. His body work against bigger FB is good. Love his hand position in marking contests.

Really, really hoping we draft him.

 

[goodcop badcop]

I've been watching the Allies vs SA game back on tape. Dixon was double grabbing his marks which is not great and from memory he was doing the same in the Metro game. If he does that at AFL level he's going to struggle. Boyd is struggling as a forward at the moment because he's double grabbing his marks for example. It's difficult to assess Dixon's form in the TSL because it's a pretty weak league. The Kolodjasnij twins were dominating as well and I remember Mihocek was yet went undrafted in his U18 year. Dixon does seem to be a lot cleaner in the TSL from those highlights though and even in the highlights the week before. Not sure what to make of it exactly.

 

[Dav1d]

I've been watching the Allies vs SA game back on tape. Dixon was double grabbing his marks which is not great and from memory he was doing the same in the Metro game. If he does that at AFL level he's going to struggle. Boyd is struggling as a forward at the moment because he's double grabbing his marks for example. It's difficult to assess Dixon's form in the TSL because it's a pretty weak league. The Kolodjasnij twins were dominating as well and I remember Mihocek was yet went undrafted in his U18 year. Dixon does seem to be a lot cleaner in the TSL from those highlights though and even in the highlights the week before. Not sure what to make of it exactly.

I said the same thing about him to when he was first mentioned and compared him similar to Kristian Jaksch at least with his marking as a junior

It could come good, but its at least a small concern.

 

[bulldogs54]

I said the same thing about him to when he was first mentioned and compared him similar to Kristian Jaksch at least with his marking as a junior

It could come good, but its at least a small concern.

I've seen that too. I however think he's a bit bigger and more of a natural forward than Jacksch who was a bit of a swingman type from memory. I think he's got a bit more variety to his game than Tom Boyd for instance in that he still seems some sort of chance of making something happen or kicking a goal when the ball hits the deck. See approx 1.20min mark on the R21 highlights vid.

Also take a look at his marking in this R20 highlights vid. First 2 mins and the 3.30min mark is full of him clunking it. Although it doesn't look like he's matched against an opponent big enough to stop him perhaps.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Also take a look at his marking in this R20 highlights vid. First 2 mins and the 3.30min mark is full of him clunking it. Although it doesn't look like he's matched against an opponent big enough to stop him perhaps.

This is sort of what I was getting at in my post before. It's pretty hard to judge him in this league for this reasoning, I think his games in the champs are a far more reliable source. It's good to see he is doing well though, you can't dismiss what he's doing.

 

[doggies ftw]

Haven't followed the draftees one bit this year. Any rumours of who we like? Usually a few floating around by now. Also at our pick which forwards (any size) and classy/speedy mids will be around do we think? Cheers

 

[Gollo]

I've been watching the Allies vs SA game back on tape. Dixon was double grabbing his marks which is not great and from memory he was doing the same in the Metro game. If he does that at AFL level he's going to struggle. Boyd is struggling as a forward at the moment because he's double grabbing his marks for example. It's difficult to assess Dixon's form in the TSL because it's a pretty weak league. The Kolodjasnij twins were dominating as well and I remember Mihocek was yet went undrafted in his U18 year. Dixon does seem to be a lot cleaner in the TSL from those highlights though and even in the highlights the week before. Not sure what to make of it exactly.

The double-grabbing doesn't appear to be much of an issue to me. He's not doing it when he's got a clear run to the ball and no disruption to the arms, it's generally only in really contested situations. He also controls the ball really well in the air so that if he does have to double-grab, he often still comes up with the mark. Boyd doesn't have that presence in the contest.

Dominating as a key forward in the TSL is a better indication of form than dominating as an outside player. For guys like the Kolodjasnijs, they're a class above all the others, and when they're getting fed the ball in uncontested situations it's not hard for them to look like world-beaters. The quality of key defenders is higher in state leagues than the quality of mids/half-backs/wingers, as there are less KPP spots to fill on a team and key defenders don't need a high skill level to be hard to play on. Dixon showing good signs, taking on (likely) the no. 1 KPD, should make his case better.

 

[Wizard17]

Jean-Luc Velissaris with a lazy 7 goals for the Cannons today.

To put this in perspective the Cannons only kicked 10 goals for the game.

 

[Wizard17]

According to twitter Joel Garner has been reported.

 

[goodcop badcop]

According to twitter Joel Garner has been reported.

Someone compared Garner to Hodge earlier in this thread. Good comparison. That hit was very Luke Hodge like. I was on the other side of the ground but it looked like he came in late and high. He may miss the finals.

Big fan of Ed Richard’s game, I noticed you mentioned him earlier. Broke the lines and has a lovely left foot on him. He’s not afraid to get his hands dirty as well and he has great hands in tight. Not sure how many possies he had, but I thought he had a big impact. I’m a big, big fan after today.

 

[Wizard17]

Someone compared Garner to Hodge earlier in this thread. Good comparison. That hit was very Luke Hodge like. I was on the other side of the ground but it looked like he came in late and high. He may miss the finals.

Big fan of Ed Richard’s game, I noticed you mentioned him earlier. Broke the lines and has a lovely left foot on him. He’s not afraid to get his hands dirty as well and he has great hands in tight. Not sure how many possies he had, but I thought he had a big impact. I’m a big, big fan after today.

More than happy to use our second on him. Is exactly what I have been looking for us this year.

Also good for the lols if we get in before the Pies and he turns into a 200 game player like Picko.

How did Thompson go? I have him around as a decent rookie pick because of his running + goal kicking.

 

[goodcop badcop]

The double-grabbing doesn't appear to be much of an issue to me. He's not doing it when he's got a clear run to the ball and no disruption to the arms, it's generally only in really contested situations. He also controls the ball really well in the air so that if he does have to double-grab, he often still comes up with the mark. Boyd doesn't have that presence in the contest.

Dominating as a key forward in the TSL is a better indication of form than dominating as an outside player. For guys like the Kolodjasnijs, they're a class above all the others, and when they're getting fed the ball in uncontested situations it's not hard for them to look like world-beaters. The quality of key defenders is higher in state leagues than the quality of mids/half-backs/wingers, as there are less KPP spots to fill on a team and key defenders don't need a high skill level to be hard to play on. Dixon showing good signs, taking on (likely) the no. 1 KPD, should make his case better.

More often than not, he's going to be in contests because he doesn't have great speed and athleticism. And AFL players are very good at not giving forwards a clear run at the ball. This is why I have concerns. If he's struggling now to take his marks cleanly in contests, he's going to have an even harder time at the next level. The reason why he's able to control those double grab marks at U18 level is because he's 10 - 15 kg heavier than most of his opponents. They don't have the size and strength to throw him off balance to spoil at this stage. He'll find it a lot more difficult against bigger bodies in the AFL I fear. Similar types in Boyd, Patton, Weideman etc. were clean marks at this level, partly why they went so high. Jaksch was mentioned earlier, but he really is a more a athletic 2nd/3rd tall option.

As for the TSL debate. Jake Kolodjashnij and Mihocek were used as key position players not midfielder/flankers. Jake was even played at CHF and went really well. Nankervis was another that dominated in the ruck. The reason why I know all this is because I had a relative play against them at the time. He said that the TSL is the equivalent of the VFL 2nd's and he should know because he played in both. Another example. They got thumped by WA last year by like 150 points in the state league game from memory. It really is a poor league and there's no reason why Dixon shouldn't be doing well given his size and bulk. As someone mentioned earlier his opponents don't look big enough to stop him. That and they don't look overly athletic. For all these reasons I find his form here very hard to judge. Don't forget J Kolodjashnij and Nankervis didn't get drafted till late despite dominating. Mihocek undrafted. Do recruiters pay that much attention to TSL form? I'm guessing not.

 

[goodcop badcop]

More than happy to use our second on him. Is exactly what I have been looking for us this year.

Also good for the lols if we get in before the Pies and he turns into a 200 game player like Picko.

How did Thompson go? I have him around as a decent rookie pick because of his running + goal kicking.

I think he kicked one or two and set up one other. I didn't really notice him that much to be honest.

 

[Dav1d]

I think he kicked one or two and set up one other. I didn't really notice him that much to be honest.

What do you think about Joel Garners kicking?

I admit that I'm very iffy on the guy

 

[Gollo]

Someone compared Garner to Hodge earlier in this thread. Good comparison. That hit was very Luke Hodge like. I was on the other side of the ground but it looked like he came in late and high. He may miss the finals.

Big fan of Ed Richard’s game, I noticed you mentioned him earlier. Broke the lines and has a lovely left foot on him. He’s not afraid to get his hands dirty as well and he has great hands in tight. Not sure how many possies he had, but I thought he had a big impact. I’m a big, big fan after today.

Yeah, that was me, I see quite a lot about Hodge in Garner, even though I'm certain he won't hit the heights that Hodge did. That hit backs it up, in a less positive way.