2017 Draft rumours

[Beast Mathieson]

Thoughts? I feel collingwood are dumb enough to go off hype. I feel its crazy to think Brander go so deep after being a possible one. I feel Dogs will troll and Constable at 18 as hes what the lions need aswell as keep Rayner.
1. Rayner BRIS
2. LDU FREO
3. Dow CARL
4. Cerra NORT
5. Brayshaw FREO
6. Murphy COLL
7. Clarke STK
8. Bonar STK
9. Naughton WBD
10. D.Fogarty CARL
11. Higgins GWS
12. Coffield ADE
13. Allen WCE
14. L.Fogarty SYD
15. Stephenson BRIS
16. Richards (Dogs Bid Naish) WBD
17. Naish RICH
18. Constable BRIS
19. Brander GCS

 

[Wild Bill]

Who cares. Go to a different thread and discuss it

You raised it.

 

[Scottie65]

Stephensons heart issue is not going to cause him any issues. This is coming from a teammate of his.

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coming from someone whos know jaidyn most of his life....i can tell you that yr right....has no impact what so ever...did anyone see a problem this year or the last 3?........its like being and asthmatic and being on ventolin to control it....hes super fit and u dont get like that with a major heart issues....wish all would relax on this seriously....cheers

 

[Soups]

Thoughts? I feel collingwood are dumb enough to go off hype. I feel its crazy to think Brander go so deep after being a possible one. I feel Dogs will troll and Constable at 18 as hes what the lions need aswell as keep Rayner.
1. Rayner BRIS
2. LDU FREO
3. Dow CARL
4. Cerra NORT
5. Brayshaw FREO
6. Murphy COLL
7. Clarke STK
8. Bonar STK
9. Naughton WBD
10. D.Fogarty CARL
11. Higgins GWS
12. Coffield ADE
13. Allen WCE
14. L.Fogarty SYD
15. Stephenson BRIS
16. Richards (Dogs Bid Naish) WBD
17. Naish RICH
18. Constable BRIS
19. Brander GCS

Haha, jog on.

 

[Dysfunctional]

Thoughts? I feel collingwood are dumb enough to go off hype. I feel its crazy to think Brander go so deep after being a possible one. I feel Dogs will troll and Constable at 18 as hes what the lions need aswell as keep Rayner.
1. Rayner BRIS
2. LDU FREO
3. Dow CARL
4. Cerra NORT
5. Brayshaw FREO
6. Murphy COLL
7. Clarke STK
8. Bonar STK
9. Naughton WBD
10. D.Fogarty CARL
11. Higgins GWS
12. Coffield ADE
13. Allen WCE
14. L.Fogarty SYD
15. Stephenson BRIS
16. Richards (Dogs Bid Naish) WBD
17. Naish RICH
18. Constable BRIS
19. Brander GCS

Naish won’t get a bit till after tigers first three picks. Been overrated

 

[Beast Mathieson]

Haha, jog on.

why? if naish not bid on then brander to rich and obrian to suns?

 

[Lace_Out]

Imagine being a cardiologist at 18.

Or maybe his Dr has told him as much and he is just relaying that

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[Jimmae]

With everyone seemingly locking in LDU to Freo, is there a scenario that would see them select someone else?

 

[Beast Mathieson]

Naish won’t get a bit till after tigers first three picks. Been overrated

rated so high in form drafts, and they'd like balta and hayes and 20 25?

 

[Dysfunctional]

With everyone seemingly locking in LDU to Freo, is there a scenario that would see them select someone else?

Very highly doubt it

 

[Soups]

why? if naish not bid on then brander to rich and obrian to suns?

More to your laughable line of “we’re dumb enough to go off hype”.

 

[Eski3]

coming from someone whos know jaidyn most of his life....i can tell you that yr right....has no impact what so ever...did anyone see a problem this year or the last 3?........its like being and asthmatic and being on ventolin to control it....hes super fit and u dont get like that with a major heart issues....wish all would relax on this seriously....cheers

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2014-04-09/life-after-afl-for-jayden-pitt

Pitt, the 20th pick in the 2010 draft, was forced to retire at the end of last season after being diagnosed with cardiomyopathy, a serious condition which can lead to heart failure, in March 2013.

A routine electrocardiogram picked up an abnormality with Pitt's heart, and further tests showed the muscle was enlarged.

Speaking for the first time since he retired, Pitt said he was told by specialists that his life was in danger if he continued to play football.

"I had no symptoms," Pitt told AFL.com.au.

"A lot of people who have it don't have symptoms but obviously some people do, and that was the most frustrating thing.

"I wasn't having any symptoms, but they were telling me I couldn't play. I felt fine and completed pre-season, so that was disappointing.

"I had to wait for mum and dad to come over. We all saw the specialist together in Perth, and at that stage I was told I couldn't play football."

 

[Wild Bill]

North are taking Brayshaw after Brisbane and Freo showed interest. North have no originality.

Lol what??? Nothing to do with who is our best option? We might take a player because another team is interested? That’s a new low for this thread.

 

[Beast Mathieson]

With everyone seemingly locking in LDU to Freo, is there a scenario that would see them select someone else?

if Brisbane take him at 1, but i think Rayner is a 90% lock otherwise think Freo claim him. Boarding country boy (unlikely to get home sick) who loves to surf (become best mates with Blakely and miss training).

 

[pulpdriver]

With everyone seemingly locking in LDU to Freo, is there a scenario that would see them select someone else?

Us taking LDU seems the only chance of that and that looks extremely unlikely at this point.

 

[22Lions22]

With our poor recent history of first round draft choices, taking a boom or bust player like Rayner with our first No. 1 pick for ages would make for a very nerve-wracking few years for Lions supporters. The fingernail chewers amongst us are going to be ******.

Correct its a gamble, other areas have more need like strengthening backline smalls agility and speed and run hoping they can find another Witherden at 15 and 18 so best option might be best inside mid with your best pick always (my usual draft mantra). Might save those fingernails.

 

[briztoon]

Lets hope they are getting better at it, lets also hope they understand that the speed and agility profile of the Lions squad must improve.
Last year it was obvious they had to many in the 22 who didn't have the speed or agility to succeed at AFL level.
The recruiters are to blame and are under pressure to improve in my opinion.

You don't think the GH5 set our development back, in 2013 & 2014?
We really only started our current rebuild at the 2015, and then reset in 2016 with a change of coach and club management.

Our recruiters really haven't missed since 2013, except for Aish. You can only draft the talent that's there. And we are drafting 18 year old kids that still have 4 to 6 years of development in them before we really see what type of player they will be.

How many of the top top kids from 2015 Under 16 championships have progressed through to 2018? Spargo hasn't grown, Clark's development seemed to stall until moved in to the midfield this season, Ballenden had a real mixed last year and this year, Worpel hasn't progressed, Higgins ceiling at AFL level is under question, Darcy Fogarty had his season ruined by injury, and now Stehpenson's draft position is under question because of heart problem.

While many of the "lesser lights" kids have come through. Rayner wasn't added to the AFL academy until this year. In recent years we've seen kids not involved in the AFL academy rise to the top of the draft. If the AFL talent managers have trouble identifying the most talented kids, you'd think team recruiters would be in the same boat.

And as I said, once drafted this still years of development to go in to each kid before they make a consistent impact.

And we're doing all this in an AFL outpost, with little support or little desire to support us, from the AFL heartland.

Right now, may as well look at Brisbane as an expansion team in year 2, going in to year 3, without as many draft concessions, but with a few more experienced recruits.

 

[Wild Bill]

coming from someone whos know jaidyn most of his life....i can tell you that yr right....has no impact what so ever...did anyone see a problem this year or the last 3?........its like being and asthmatic and being on ventolin to control it....hes super fit and u dont get like that with a major heart issues....wish all would relax on this seriously....cheers

Has he started any heart meds? Do you know what the impacts might be? Bo slid - JS will as well.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Imagine being a cardiologist at 18.

Yeah definitely wouldn't be info relayed from Stephenson at all

 

[Scottie65]

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2014-04-09/life-after-afl-for-jayden-pitt

Pitt, the 20th pick in the 2010 draft, was forced to retire at the end of last season after being diagnosed with cardiomyopathy, a serious condition which can lead to heart failure, in March 2013.

A routine electrocardiogram picked up an abnormality with Pitt's heart, and further tests showed the muscle was enlarged.

Speaking for the first time since he retired, Pitt said he was told by specialists that his life was in danger if he continued to play football.

"I had no symptoms," Pitt told AFL.com.au.

"A lot of people who have it don't have symptoms but obviously some people do, and that was the most frustrating thing.

"I wasn't having any symptoms, but they were telling me I couldn't play. I felt fine and completed pre-season, so that was disappointing.

"I had to wait for mum and dad to come over. We all saw the specialist together in Perth, and at that stage I was told I couldn't play football."

if it was cardiomyopathy dont you think the cardioligist would be saying the same thing to jaidyn??...you cant play...but there not there saying all clear so obvioulsy its not as serious

 

[briztoon]

With our poor recent history of first round draft choices, taking a boom or bust player like Rayner with our first No. 1 pick for ages would make for a very nerve-wracking few years for Lions supporters. The fingernail chewers amongst us are going to be ******.

you have fingers?

 

[jesterwester]

Naish won’t get a bit till after tigers first three picks. Been overrated

WC could strategically bid on Naish at 21 to make sure the tigers use 25.

Unlikely that they wouldn't match that bid so would be pretty low risk, even if his rating is somewhere a little below that.

 

[Dysfunctional]

if it was cardiomyopathy dont you think the cardioligist would be saying the same thing to jaidyn??...you cant play...but there not there saying all clear so obvioulsy its not as serious

That is what he has. They’ve already said that

 

[Lace_Out]

coming from someone whos know jaidyn most of his life....i can tell you that yr right....has no impact what so ever...did anyone see a problem this year or the last 3?........its like being and asthmatic and being on ventolin to control it....hes super fit and u dont get like that with a major heart issues....wish all would relax on this seriously....cheers

You just spoilt all the glory for all the Einsteins in their bedrooms, who knew better haha.

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[Scottie65]

That is what he has. They’ve already said that

ive seen no report about that