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List Mgmt. 2017 draft thread
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will do better,than that;
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That's wat I've been sayin for the last 2 weeks Noah is a must
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I've just done the same....on to the GF now...
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As far as tall forwards go we have Griff. (200cm) Moore (193) & Chol (198) waiting in the VFL. We have Hampson & Soldo as backup rucks. That is enough. Trade for one next year.
Moore is probably ready to play senior football. I haven't seen him enough to judge. I have no faith in Griff's ability to last a season, a Chol didn't look ready to play AFL. (I haven't seen him enough to judge). And given long you need when drafting talls I wouldn't draft more than one. Take your pick out of Brander, Balta, Ballemden.
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GWS actually played well for a lot of the game. Their talls weren't bad. Himmelburg, Patton, Lobb.
But no match for the tiges. We outlasted teams this year. And Jeesus, lots of sacrificial running. Broad & Butler etc for no stats. Which makes me not want to go too tall in the draft unless you're guaranteed to get a Grundy or Daniher.
There could be things happening in the backround that might effect which players we select this year and the reasoning for our left field selections that we wont know and will be bewildered about the clubs choice.
E.G - Lets just say
#17 - Ed Richards
#20 - P.Naish
#25 - Sam Taylor
#53 - Midfielder
#55 - HBF/MID
To most of us here that would look pretty stupid and we would all be screaming out that we didnt get a KPF or a Ruckman and how many mids do we need etc etc etc - BUT
Say that Richmond is pretty confident of attracting Tom Lynch to come to us next year on X dollars and fits into our TPP , We have already emptied out some $$$ this year and would be looking to front pay alot of our stars and Tom is a done deal as well as having another 4 years of Jack with Callum Moore developing well we could see this as enough KPF and need Depth in Mids. This would be the area that could get diluted if a trade was to eventuate
2018 1st rounder + 2019 2nd rounder + Corey Ellis or Connor Menadue (this is just an example not the exact players but more the type)
Our Recruiting team would be looking beyond this year and more with next year already planned out
E.G - Lets just say
#17 - Ed Richards
#20 - P.Naish
#25 - Sam Taylor
#53 - Midfielder
#55 - HBF/MID
To most of us here that would look pretty stupid and we would all be screaming out that we didnt get a KPF or a Ruckman and how many mids do we need etc etc etc - BUT
Say that Richmond is pretty confident of attracting Tom Lynch to come to us next year on X dollars and fits into our TPP , We have already emptied out some $$$ this year and would be looking to front pay alot of our stars and Tom is a done deal as well as having another 4 years of Jack with Callum Moore developing well we could see this as enough KPF and need Depth in Mids. This would be the area that could get diluted if a trade was to eventuate
2018 1st rounder + 2019 2nd rounder + Corey Ellis or Connor Menadue (this is just an example not the exact players but more the type)
Our Recruiting team would be looking beyond this year and more with next year already planned out
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moore is almost reaching mcbean and mcdonough levels of hyperbole
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Del65166
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RFC would have to be 110% on getting Lynch. And I don't know if they can be. With a change of coach at GCS, what if they start having on field success and Lynch decides to stay?
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How sure are you?
Yes you are probably correct, but Moore has speed and attacks the ball in the air, that is almost enough in our forward line. Just teach him to tackle and you have a giant Castagna.
Twomey loves Naish which is why he bid on him at 16 for the Bulldogs, I'm certainly hoping he doesn't actually go that high and this will be reflected in his Phantom Draft, not the Mock Draft they did on the podcast.
I'd be totally fine with Constable if he drops that far, but I'd hope we'd get Balta or Brander as well
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For me my 3pics Balta Allen and of course Naish
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That would be a damn good outcome
I am psychoanalysing the Father-son Naish bid from an opposition club strategic standpoint.
If you bid before about pick 15 there is a reasonable chance Richmond don't match & I doubt any clubs rate Naish that high to risk getting him with their high pick.
If you bid 15 or later the Tigers will very probably match, so you would not bid out of actual interest in Naish, but strategically bid if the Tigers matching improves your draft position. Keep in mind that if you bid unsuccessfully, you're basically telling the player you do select that you are settling for them as the "ugly friend" after hot chick Naish got a better offer and shot you down.
Brisbane - bids at 15, Richmond "waste" 17 to match, meaning only 1 other player selected (instead of 2) before Brisbane next pick at #18. Strategic win.
BUT - Richmond then use pick 20 or more likely 25 on a Ballenden bid, (if not too much of a reach?). Brisbane have to use some handy picks to match.
This becomes a strategic lose-lose draw. Brisbane won't want to upset us as we are one of the clubs who can return an early bid when otherwise there is a good chance a Ballenden bid won't come til much later.
Bulldogs bid at 16. Their next pick is in the 80s so no strategic advantage. Would only do it to be pricks or if they actually want Naish above any others available.
Gold Coast bid at 19. Their next pick is 41. No strategic advantage.
West Coast bid at 21. We "waste" 25 to match, meaning an extra player available for them at pick 26. This may be a good strategic bid, especially if there are 4 or 5 players they rate still draftable. Gives a better chance of one of them being there at 26.
Geelong bid at 22 (or 24). No real strategic advantage. We waste pick 25 meaning an extra player available for their pick 35. Not likely to make much difference.
North bid 23. next pick 64. No strategic advantage.
Any bid after that, we waste picks in the 50's. No strategic advantage.
So, any club can bid to be a prick and make us accountable, but the bid that makes the most sense would be West Coast at 21.
If you bid before about pick 15 there is a reasonable chance Richmond don't match & I doubt any clubs rate Naish that high to risk getting him with their high pick.
If you bid 15 or later the Tigers will very probably match, so you would not bid out of actual interest in Naish, but strategically bid if the Tigers matching improves your draft position. Keep in mind that if you bid unsuccessfully, you're basically telling the player you do select that you are settling for them as the "ugly friend" after hot chick Naish got a better offer and shot you down.
Brisbane - bids at 15, Richmond "waste" 17 to match, meaning only 1 other player selected (instead of 2) before Brisbane next pick at #18. Strategic win.
BUT - Richmond then use pick 20 or more likely 25 on a Ballenden bid, (if not too much of a reach?). Brisbane have to use some handy picks to match.
This becomes a strategic lose-lose draw. Brisbane won't want to upset us as we are one of the clubs who can return an early bid when otherwise there is a good chance a Ballenden bid won't come til much later.
Bulldogs bid at 16. Their next pick is in the 80s so no strategic advantage. Would only do it to be pricks or if they actually want Naish above any others available.
Gold Coast bid at 19. Their next pick is 41. No strategic advantage.
West Coast bid at 21. We "waste" 25 to match, meaning an extra player available for them at pick 26. This may be a good strategic bid, especially if there are 4 or 5 players they rate still draftable. Gives a better chance of one of them being there at 26.
Geelong bid at 22 (or 24). No real strategic advantage. We waste pick 25 meaning an extra player available for their pick 35. Not likely to make much difference.
North bid 23. next pick 64. No strategic advantage.
Any bid after that, we waste picks in the 50's. No strategic advantage.
So, any club can bid to be a prick and make us accountable, but the bid that makes the most sense would be West Coast at 21.
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Re Brisbane I think we did that pick swap just to head that scenario off , with an agreement they would not bid on Naish
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I’ve always rated him I don’t know why he hasn’t played more games for GWS. He’s a unique beast not many have his physical attributes, be an awesome fit for us!
Probably didn't think they could get in either.
We need to Draft them for the future, lose Jack to injury next yr & we'll miss the 8, long term we don't have a replacement as yet. nail the right 2 & our fwd line is set for the next decade.
