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2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 4

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Premium said:
Respect your opinion but having read this I think he might be a bit better than you think.

ACK Higgins has firmed his draft credentials, after taking home the 2017 Morrish Medal.
The dynamic midfielder/forward became the first player from the Oakleigh Chargers to claim the award for the TAC Cup’s best and fairest player, edging out Calder Cannons skipper Brad Bernacki by two votes.

The honour caps off a hugely successful year for Higgins, who also won Vic Metro’s MVP and best and fairest awards, as well as gaining selection in the U/18 All-Australian team.

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Past winners of the Morrish Medal have gone on to have great success at AFL level, including Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer (2007) and Essendon skipper Dyson Heppell (2010).

The past two winners — Clayton Oliver (2015) and Hugh McClugagge (2016) — were both top-five draft picks.

Champion Data has compared the probable top-10 draft pick to Brisbane midfielder Dayne Zorko — but when it comes to Higgins’ numbers, they’re simply incomparable.

Of Higgins’ 32 games Champion Data has covered, he has topped 100+ ranking points on 30 occasions. In 2017, Higgins’ 146 TAC Cup ranking points has been the best in the competition.
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Both Coffield and Higgins are rippers and they are in our trade range.
please keep our first round trades.

Just about everyone who has won the Morrish medal has been a champ , Oliver won 2015
 
gringo2011 said:
Savage should be signed up, Poor list management, we will be looking at missing finals again the way we are going. If we are relying on White and Rice to pick up where Savage is playing at we might not be going so well. I hope they are getting someone very very good to the club to off set all the players we are losing.
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Bahahaha!
 

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Not that I think we're likely to get him, but looking at Jack Martin's stats, one thing stood out to me and that was how many marks he takes, especially for someone who plays mainly up forward.

He was ranked 17th in the comp for total marks this year, with 139, and of those who took more, there were only 5 who like him play mostly forward (Buddy, Daniher, Lynch (Adel), Dixon and WHE).

He took more than anyone at our club for the year and was only 3 short of averaging 1 contested mark per game, which is very impressive for someone his size.

Given how much we hope the likes of Acres, Dunstan, Steele, Sincs and Billings (who were all born in 1995, like Martin) will improve, you'd also think there'd be ample room for improvement in Martin as well. Plus, his name is Jack!

I haven't watched a lot of Gold Coast over the years, but he also is a seriously good kick (low, penetrating darts) isn't he?

Hard to say exactly what he'd be worth though. Pick 10-ish maybe?
 
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Both Coffield and Higgins are rippers and they are in our trade range.
please keep our first round trades.

Just about everyone who has won the Morrish medal has been a champ , Oliver won 2015
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you need to proceed with slight caution with Higgins, as he has essentially been a full-time footballer this year while the others at that level are juggling football with school.
 
Premium said:
Both Coffield and Higgins are rippers and they are in our trade range.
please keep our first round trades.

Just about everyone who has won the Morrish medal has been a champ , Oliver won 2015
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Sorry Premo, but that isn't really true. It's actually pretty rare that a Morrish medalist has gone on to be a champion. In fact I've never heard of most of the guys that have won it.
 
I'd say Holmes would be the only player delisted then from the Primary list. There isn't any other out of contract players is there?

Looking likely we'll trade in one player and draft 3.
 
Yawkey way said:
Not at all, of course they have plenty of A grade talent which I would be more than happy to trade for.

I just don't want to trade down for B graders, we are past that point imho.

If there is a money ball player we fancy trade fringe players or later picks but keep your hands of the first rounders.
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I am sure that pick7 and a player going to GC would involve getting an A grade player
That was the intention of my post.
With the picks coming back,as i said in an earlier thread it was mentioned by an ITK that we may bunch up some 2nd round picks to get a higher pick,not possibly more Bgrade players.
Whether or not teams would be keen to do that in a so called weak draft,im not sure.
 
toxic said:
Have missed most of this thread but on the Dees.
Currently on the table is:
Lever to Dees
Watts to Blues (Dees had enuff)
Salem to Crows (Dees think Salem is lazy and can't get the best out of him despite his talent levels)
Gibbs to Crows
Crows trade a pick to Blues

Trade pick the sticking point at the moment for the whole deal
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Dees getting a good deal there, offloading their problems in exchange for Lever.
 

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aussierulesrules said:
Not that I think we're likely to get him, but looking at Jack Martin's stats, one thing stood out to me and that was how many marks he takes, especially for someone who plays mainly up forward.

He was ranked 17th in the comp for total marks this year, with 139, and of those who took more, there were only 5 who like him play mostly forward (Buddy, Daniher, Lynch (Adel), Dixon and WHE).

He took more than anyone at our club for the year and was only 3 short of averaging 1 contested mark per game, which is very impressive for someone his size.

Given how much we hope the likes of Acres, Dunstan, Steele, Sincs and Billings (who were all born in 1995, like Martin) will improve, you'd also think there'd be ample room for improvement in Martin as well.

I haven't watched a lot of Gold Coast over the years, but he also is a seriously good kick (low, penetrating darts) isn't he?
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Yep. He's pretty much a better version of WHE who kicks a bag every now and then and has some pace.
 
BrutThough said:
you put Gaff into the 22 and know you are getting a player who will make us a better side every single week.

the same cant be said about martin.
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but Gaff is at his celing right now .. his output is already starting to decline.. Martin still has yet to hit his full potential and he is only marginly behind Gaff as it is right now ... its like getting $50 now and then getting $30 every week for 5 weeks or getting $30 now and $50 every week for 7 weeks
 
Gresham04 said:
Great to see sav stay. Got what he wanted and knocked back 3 year deals with collingwood and believe it or not hawks.
His family are rapt to stay with the saints. A lot can happen in 48 hours in the afl.
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You're damn right it can! Wanted a longer deal for the family. Same situation as Robbo. Glad he's committed.
 
bird_man said:
Sorry Premo, but that isn't really true. It's actually pretty rare that a Morrish medalist has gone on to be a champion. In fact I've never heard of most of the guys that have won it.
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Lenny Hayes
Kreuzer
Oliver
Heppell
McClugagge

Champion Data has compared the probable top-10 draft pick to Brisbane midfielder Dayne Zorko — but when it comes to Higgins’ numbers, they’re simply incomparable.

very good chance he may be good
 

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Keep hearing Lynch's name come up. Is it all fanciful or is there something to it?
 
All that remains as OOC;

33. Nick O'Kearney (Rookie List)
45. Jason Holmes (Senior List)
*Barclay Miller (international scholarship holder)

We currently have 37 players on the senior list. 40's the max. Holmes most likely delisted frees up another spot.

Say we have 36. Makes for an interesting next few months.
 
aussierulesrules said:
Not that I think we're likely to get him, but looking at Jack Martin's stats, one thing stood out to me and that was how many marks he takes, especially for someone who plays mainly up forward.

He was ranked 17th in the comp for total marks this year, with 139, and of those who took more, there were only 5 who like him play mostly forward (Buddy, Daniher, Lynch (Adel), Dixon and WHE).

He took more than anyone at our club for the year and was only 3 short of averaging 1 contested mark per game, which is very impressive for someone his size.

Given how much we hope the likes of Acres, Dunstan, Steele, Sincs and Billings (who were all born in 1995, like Martin) will improve, you'd also think there'd be ample room for improvement in Martin as well. Plus, his name is Jack!

I haven't watched a lot of Gold Coast over the years, but he also is a seriously good kick (low, penetrating darts) isn't he?

Hard to say exactly what he'd be worth though. Pick 10-ish maybe?
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If you watch stats, Gaff is better.

If you watch games, Martin is better.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
If Gringo is wrong about everything, we should have a great 2018.
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I said Tigers would play finals and that we might struggle to make the 8 last year because of a harder draw yet still improve. Don't get everything wrong any more than anyone else. At least I have an opinion. Anyway we signed Savage so it hasn't happened
 
George said:
All that remains as OOC;

33. Nick O'Kearney (Rookie List)
45. Jason Holmes (Senior List)
*Barclay Miller (international scholarship holder)

We currently have 37 players on the senior list. 40's the max. Holmes most likely delisted frees up another spot.

Say we have 36. Makes for an interesting next few months.
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NOK surely to Christ would be kept in some form, senior or rookie. Arguably our most consistent in the best for Sandy each week
 
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