Position 2020 Defenders

[Bandicoot]

doedee and young could both be in similar situations - miss rd 1 but be imminent.
could you carry both into rd 1?

could be a ballsy move that makes or breaks you early and id be very tempted to doit at this point.

I certainly agree with you on doedee, esp if he even gets a sanfl trial in or is named to play any level rd 1 weekend

A lot of that strategy depends on where your priorities lie. If your objective is solely to have the highest end of year score then you may be more inclined not to start one or both of them. MAYBE.
However, if your priority is to win your cash league (which is worth far more than I'm likely to win from Sportsdeck) what happens in rounds 1 & 2 is really irrelevant.
If there is a player you really want in your squad and are confident he will be playing by round 2 or 3, I don't see any point in not starting them. This mindset applies particularly to rookie valued players.

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

A lot of that strategy depends on where your priorities lie. If your objective is solely to have the highest end of year score then you may be more inclined not to start one or both of them. MAYBE.
However, if your priority is to win your cash league (which is worth far more than I'm likely to win from Sportsdeck) what happens in rounds 1 & 2 is really irrelevant.
If there is a player you really want in your squad and are confident he will be playing by round 2 or 3, I don't see any point in not starting them. This mindset applies particularly to rookie valued players.

Well said. I'm keeping Doedee as i have enough cash in the bank and apart from maybe Young, i dont think anyone around his price point will be nearly as reliable as him. If there was a good 'substitute' player id probably start them and wait for Doedee to come back. Also, if i was really tight with my budget then id probably feel a need to go to a rookie who is a bit cheaper but currently my team has 6 gun mids and im still happy enough with every other position. Thus, i have the cash for Doedee and im happy to wait 3-4 extra rounds for him to start making cash. I'm hoping he comes back by round 3 or 4, any later than that and it becomes harder to assess whether it was 'the right decision' to start him even if he scores really well.

 

[Bandicoot]

Well said. I'm keeping Doedee as i have enough cash in the bank and apart from maybe Young, i dont think anyone around his price point will be nearly as reliable as him. If there was a good 'substitute' player id probably start them and wait for Doedee to come back. Also, if i was really tight with my budget then id probably feel a need to go to a rookie who is a bit cheaper but currently my team has 6 gun mids and im still happy enough with every other position. Thus, i have the cash for Doedee and im happy to wait 3-4 extra rounds for him to start making cash. I'm hoping he comes back by round 3 or 4, any later than that and it becomes harder to assess whether it was 'the right decision' to start him even if he scores really well.

Yeah, his return would need to be probably by round 3 to hold him in our starting squad.

 

[go you pups]

Well said. I'm keeping Doedee as i have enough cash in the bank and apart from maybe Young, i dont think anyone around his price point will be nearly as reliable as him. If there was a good 'substitute' player id probably start them and wait for Doedee to come back. Also, if i was really tight with my budget then id probably feel a need to go to a rookie who is a bit cheaper but currently my team has 6 gun mids and im still happy enough with every other position. Thus, i have the cash for Doedee and im happy to wait 3-4 extra rounds for him to start making cash. I'm hoping he comes back by round 3 or 4, any later than that and it becomes harder to assess whether it was 'the right decision' to start him even if he scores really well.

Yeah, his return would need to be probably by round 3 to hold him in our starting squad.

The year Petracca was a rookie, I started him as there wasn't a lot of starting forward options, but he didn't debut until like R4-5 so if I went someone else I could've made a quick 100k or so IIRC

I'm pretty sure we'll have a few defenders this year though

 

[Bradkli]

Yeah, his return would need to be probably by round 3 to hold him in our starting squad.

He’s listed as 1-3 weeks on injury report. They will be conservative with him. Can’t see him playing seniors until earliest round 5. Will need at least 2-3 weeks in SANFL especially having been out for all of last season. Needs a few weeks of full match fitness. Big risk to start with him.

 

[Tex Danger]

A lot of that strategy depends on where your priorities lie. If your objective is solely to have the highest end of year score then you may be more inclined not to start one or both of them. MAYBE.
However, if your priority is to win your cash league (which is worth far more than I'm likely to win from Sportsdeck) what happens in rounds 1 & 2 is really irrelevant.
If there is a player you really want in your squad and are confident he will be playing by round 2 or 3, I don't see any point in not starting them. This mindset applies particularly to rookie valued players.

im not so sure, ill be focussing on overall but if all signs point to them playing rd 2/3 then by then there wont be a cow to milk to them (may be straight swap when on the bubble at best).

If there is a lack of reliable def rookies, why not take the risk of them missing more than expected but upside of being confident that once they are in you would want them. Either could lead to a wasted/correction trade early, its just a matter of which is more likely to or worse.

If you had the balls to start Newman at Syd in his rookie year after missing rd 1 you would have been rewarded with saving a trade

Its not how id usually roll, and not sure ill do it (esp with both) but I will be monitoring news on them beyond just if they are named rd 1

 

[Tex Danger]

He’s listed as 1-3 weeks on injury report. They will be conservative with him. Can’t see him playing seniors until earliest round 5. Will need at least 2-3 weeks in SANFL especially having been out for all of last season. Needs a few weeks of full match fitness. Big risk to start with him.

hopefully news filters out in the next couple of weeks.

IF we knew for sure id be like this
- play rd 2 : definite start
- Play rd 3: more than likely start (unless strong alternatives)
- play rd 4: far more likely not start unless the alternative rookie options had no JS/scoring likelihood anyway
- play rd 5: definite miss

problem is we wont know 100% but hope for enough info to read between the lines. Thats where him playing some form of football on Rd1 weekend would be ideal at least and probably becomes the main deciding factor- SANFL trail rd 1 week likely select, none then likely pass

 

[Bandicoot]

im not so sure, ill be focussing on overall but if all signs point to them playing rd 2/3 then by then there wont be a cow to milk to them (may be straight swap when on the bubble at best).

If there is a lack of reliable def rookies, why not take the risk of them missing more than expected but upside of being confident that once they are in you would want them. Either could lead to a wasted/correction trade early, its just a matter of which is more likely to or worse.

If you had the balls to start Newman at Syd in his rookie year after missing rd 1 you would have been rewarded with saving a trade

Its not how id usually roll, and not sure ill do it (esp with both) but I will be monitoring news on them beyond just if they are named rd 1

I'll be waiting to see what the news is just prior to round 1. A lot could change in the next two weeks.

 

[Dugong]

I recently did a reshuffle with Doedee pushing him out and bringing in Aish. If Aish can spend some time through the middle, he could prove good value.
Currently gives me BSmith, Doch, Houston, Aish, Roberton, Brander/Young/Gould/Williams as D6. R1 selections will obviously determine a lot more!

 

[Bandicoot]

I recently did a reshuffle with Doedee pushing him out and bringing in Aish. If Aish can spend some time through the middle, he could prove good value.
Currently gives me BSmith, Doch, Houston, Aish, Roberton, Brander/Young/Gould/Williams as D6. R1 selections will obviously determine a lot more!

Not really a like for like swap though. Taking out Doedee @ $247K and replacing him with Aish @ $484K.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Aish is a massive gamble

 

[go you pups]

Aish is a massive gamble

AFLF pick at best

 

[Bandicoot]

Aish is a massive gamble

I'd rather Acres in the forward line than Aish as a defender.

 

[Dugong]

I'd rather Acres in the forward line than Aish as a defender.

Dockers have injury woes all over the place. Aish will be well placed to at least make some $$’s.

 

[Bandicoot]

Dockers have injury woes all over the place. Aish will be well placed to at least make some $$’s.

Yeah, I wrote this post before I realised about the Acres injury.

 

[Dugong]

Yeah, I wrote this post before I realised about the Acres injury.

lol...yeah I saw that. I wasn’t having a dig at all mate. Ironic timing though! Haha...

 

[Dugong]

Aish is a massive gamble

As is Roberton, as is Doedee, as is Docherty and the list continues. Each to their own but it is important to realise there is absolutely no certainty in any player. Even more so, any player returning from LTI’s.

 

[SloppyJoe]

As is Roberton, as is Doedee, as is Docherty and the list continues. Each to their own but it is important to realise there is absolutely no certainty in any player. Even more so, any player returning from LTI’s.

Aish is $483k - that is primarily where the risk comes from. As Coot mentioned, you can't really compare him to a $247k Doedee. Even a $318k Roberton is a stretch.

And if we move on to performance, Aish is only comparable to Doedee (who is half the price). Aish's best year was his first year at Brisbane where he averaged 74. Since then he has always been on the fringe of the 22 and is now at his third club in 7 years.

Maybe you know something I don't about his role/JS at Freo, but even if I look at Aish in a bubble and don't compare him to anyone, he just screams "don't pick me".

I actually have a soft spot for the bloke because I had him in my DT as a rookie and he served me well.

 

[go you pups]

With the massive dire lack of defensive rookies currently, John Noble at 345k, Isaac Cumming at 288k and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher at 242k could all come into serious consideration in regards to filling out D5-6

Geez i hope Gould is named R1 though

 

[DaTBird187]

With the massive dire lack of defensive rookies currently, John Noble at 345k, Isaac Cumming at 288k and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher at 242k could all come into serious consideration in regards to filling out D5-6

Geez i hope Gould is named R1 though

He would solve a lot of things. I don't want any of the above.

 

[Tex Danger]

He would solve a lot of things. I don't want any of the above.

Doedee on the pine looking likely for me now (all other options around his price likely dont sure enough and end up being sideways traded to him anyway). Maybe even Young but probably only 1 of the 2 if both not named rd 1. Having a basement priced rookie like Gould sitting next to him would be ideal. A Xerk THatccher, McCasey etc would not be ideal

 

[Bandicoot]

With the massive dire lack of defensive rookies currently, John Noble at 345k, Isaac Cumming at 288k and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher at 242k could all come into serious consideration in regards to filling out D5-6

Geez i hope Gould is named R1 though

I was surprised he didn't play in their second Marsh match. Don't know what to read into that.
Even if he does play, I don't see him being much more than a 40-50 point scorer.
Will make money. But, slowly.

I've currently got both Noble and Cumming as D5 & D6.

 

[go you pups]

Doedee on the pine looking likely for me now (all other options around his price likely dont sure enough and end up being sideways traded to him anyway). Maybe even Young but probably only 1 of the 2 if both not named rd 1. Having a basement priced rookie like Gould sitting next to him would be ideal. A Xerk THatccher, McCasey etc would not be ideal

Doedee too i guess, but how far is he away?

 

[go you pups]

I was surprised he didn't play in their second Marsh match. Don't know what to read into that.
Even if he does play, I don't see him being much more than a 40-50 point scorer.
Will make money. But, slowly.

I've currently got both Noble and Cumming as D5 & D6.

Cumming might make quick cash

He's tonned both Marsh games, Williams apparently has a dodgy achilles, so Cumming's js might be ok for a while

 

[Tex Danger]

Doedee too i guess, but how far is he away?

Listed as 1-2 weeks, so you’d expect him to line up at some level rd 1 (1st SANFL trial is afl rd 1). Then max 2 lower level games I’d think.

so best case he plays rd 1, worst case (injury aside) rd 3 IMO